Chinaski

Chinaski

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I saw both these videos. The chocolate lady - why does it end before she's even fallen asleep? It does not conjure up feelings of comfort at all.
The coughing guy - that was horrible. He looked afraid.
Is this what one would expect with N?

I'm not sure what's uncomfortable about "the chocolate woman" passing, that appeared to be as comfortable as it could get. I can't answer as to why the film was edited to cut away as she fell asleep but I'd guess it was because the film was not made with the intention of being pored over by online suicide fetishists.

Smedley's coughing fit certainly isn't in the brochure, but it was thirty seconds of discomfort before dropping into deep sleep. Most would take the Smedley exit over other methods imo, l certainly would.
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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The only thing I could think of to fit your criteria would be an electric chair, but I don't exactly think those are easy to come by on the streets.

I want you to remember that all corpses are gonna look nasty. The mouth hanging open is just gonna happen automatically because your muscles might loosen a bit before rigor mortis sets in.

No electric chair is not painless. The jolt is not enough to vaporize. The sedatives just shuts up the victim.

Check out video of the drunk man in nyc falling on train track getting electrocuted.
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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nolifenopain failed full suspension and he said he didn't feel a thing whilst he was out, even though he was suffocating.

He didn't die.

I mean there's the upclose video of people suffocating, and criminal hanging where body convulses violently. It wasn't instant.

These answers are the best you're gonna get. If a "100% painless instant death" method existed then this website probably wouldn't exist, and Dr Philip would still be a suburban GP.


I disagree. If we don't challenge our attitude then no. If we are willing to try and think outdide the box then yes.

I gave my criteria, and even if we have to do some brainstorming and come up with a method together thst's what it'll take. I mean, yeah there's not a lot of doctors or PHDs here but we do have a common cause and free of discussing without taboo.

Therefore, I think if we band together and explore options, even invent them we got something going.
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

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I disagree. Don't say it doesn't.

I gave my criteria, and even if we have to do some brainstorming and come up with a method together thst's what it'll take. I mean, yeah there's not a lot of doctors or PHDs here but we do have a common cause and free of disxussing without taboo.

Therefore, I think if we band together and explore options, even invent them we got something.
But there's no consievable method that could fit those criteria. You're talking about something that would instantly incinerate the brain, but make your corpse look ok. There's not even a military weapon that can do that.

You can have a painless and relatively quick death at home, but what you're talking about is just impossible, especially at home.
 
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Jolene40

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I'm not sure what's uncomfortable about "the chocolate woman" passing, that appeared to be as comfortable as it could get. I can't answer as to why the film was edited to cut away as she fell asleep but I'd guess it was because the film was not made with the intention of being pored over by online suicide fetishists.

Smedley's coughing fit certainly isn't in the brochure, but it was thirty seconds of discomfort before dropping into deep sleep. Most would take the Smedley exit over other methods imo, l certainly would.

I wanted to see chocolate lady through to the end; for some assurance/ comfort call it whatever.
Yes I'd take the coughing fit over most other horrific options.
Still I was in hope it really could be a lovely little snooze off into the end but have not seen one such video at all.
I don't enjoy watching this stuff in any shape or form. I just want some comfort. I suffer perpetual pain and horror non stop from my physical rubbish and I have zero tolerance for any more suffering
 
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Idorus

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If this is anything like those Dignitas chocolate/sleep videos...hard pass. The careful cuts and music throw off the viewers. For the woman injesting chocolcate video, look at her corpse and expression after.

Exactly my thought! (wouldn't even put it to a lesser suffering degree than Smedley)
 
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But there's no consievable method that could fit those criteria. You're talking about something that would instantly incinerate the brain, but make your corpse look ok. There's not even a military weapon that can do that.

You can have a painless and relatively quick death at home, but what you're talking about is just impossible, especially at home.

Well, not so much make the corpse look okay but rid the brain first. The flinches of pain from many of terrorism vids show some level of pain. I mention the corpse as to the clues...there's not exactly an EEG attached to the victim.
 
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Jolene40

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Therr's also an article of a man who didn't fall asleep and the family is traumatized by seeing him die by Dignitas.

So imagine even being asleep what the body goes through..and potential discomfort.

The lady who ate the chocolate you can see her corpse after...that wasnt comfortable.

Blimmin hell. If that can happen under Dignitas then not so great. Let's hope they sorted it out as so that wouldn't happen again.
I wish so much we had that here in the u.k. I'd take that as a much better option than any others
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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Some thoughts:

Substance needs to hit brain behind skull first. Effect has to be instant.

Acids, electric, or other substance?

Has to be accessible and not labelled a terrorist.

Has to penetrate skull or remove skull like trepanning.
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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Blimmin hell. If that can happen under Dignitas then not so great. Let's hope they sorted it out as so that wouldn't happen again.
I wish so much we had that here in the u.k. I'd take that as a much better option than any others

Yes there's an article on it.

For Smedley those aren't coughing fits. He's choking and going into death rattle before the cut.

I'm in the same boat as you Jolene40. I'm in pain with nonstop dizziness, disequilibrium vomiting as my symptoms amongst others after my IVIG gave me menegitis. No answers from doctors, and misdiagnosis left me disabled with no help at home. My polyneuropathy already wrecked my systems.

It's fucking awful.

Anyways...back to topic
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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I wanted to see chocolate lady through to the end; for some assurance/ comfort call it whatever.
Yes I'd take the coughing fit over most other horrific options.
Still I was in hope it really could be a lovely little snooze off into the end but have not seen one such video at all.
I don't enjoy watching this stuff in any shape or form. I just want some comfort. I suffer perpetual pain and horror non stop from my physical rubbish and I have zero tolerance for any more suffering

I watch these videos for the same reason. Comfort and research for painless methods. Got neither.

I'm convinced we need our own method.
 
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Jolene40

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Yes there's an article on it.

For Smedley those aren't coughing fits. He's choking and going into death rattle before the cut.

I'm in the same boat as you Jolene40. I'm in pain with nonstop dizziness, disequilibrium vomiting as my symptoms amongst others after my IVIG gave me menegitis. No answers from doctors, and misdiagnosis left me disabled with no help at home. My polyneuropathy already wrecked my systems.

It's fucking awful.

Anyways...back to topic

I know we share many of the same symptoms my friend. Yes polyneuropathy has eaten through me too and is now in my neck and head so it's game over for a normal life too.
I wish there was an easy answer for us.

I have read a word account just now from a wife who watched her sick husband die of N overdose. She described it as very peaceful. He followed it up with a drink of port! He fell asleep then systems all slowed down and he was not in distress.
 
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If this is anything like those Dignitas chocolate/sleep videos...hard pass. The careful cuts and music throw off the viewers. For the woman injesting chocolcate video, look at her corpse and expression after.

The husband begging for water was having a hard time before the death rattle. They most likely felt it.

Simplest analogy would be like dreaming of going to bathroom because you need to pee in real life. While I get that you'll be in deeper sleep I don't see how it's painless as this is more intense thsn peeing...it's the destruction of your body.
i have no idea what a dignitas chocolate/sleep video is. Nothing is granted or guaranteed for outcomes specifcs.every method has its own positive/negative to it. or quorck but i dont how to spell that word correctly. if you find the ultimate method without one please let me know.
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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i have no idea what a dignitas chocolate/sleep video is. Nothing is granted or guaranteed for outcomes specifcs.every method has its own positive/negative to it. or quorck but i dont how to spell that word correctly. if you find the ultimate method without one please let me know.

More like we can look for it together as a community. That's what I'm after.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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Yes there's an article on it.

For Smedley those aren't coughing fits. He's choking and going into death rattle before the cut.

Sounds legit. That's enough to sway me from the Dignitas method, back to beheading myself with a rusty hacksaw l guess.
 
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Idorus

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More like we can look for it together as a community. That's what I'm after.

Yea I'm in! But I've never deeply thought about 'beating my brain to a pulp within a fraction' so this requires a new way of thinking somehow. But I totally get your point!

@JoshuaCohen135 what do you think of euthanasia (= the legal term here for the injectable way out - not with N as N is only used with "assisted suicide" by drinking it), of which here some details;
file:///home/chronos/u-6e2f68fdf9b5fda23d709421b6d86d6cb7c8f37d/Downloads/KNMG-KNMP_Euthanasie_Digi_ENG_DEF.pdf
 
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killing me softly

killing me softly

don't wake me, i plan on sleeping in
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Sounds legit. That's enough to sway me from the Dignitas method, back to beheading myself with a rusty hacksaw l guess.
please don't do it, Chinaski. i have been watching past episodes of Star Trek and am confident that if we all just put our collective non-engineering minds to it we will be able to re-create the phaser with a vaporize setting.
 
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killing me softly

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please don't do it, Chinaski. i have been watching past episodes of Star Trek and am confident that if we all just put our collective non-engineering minds to it we will be able to re-create the phaser with a vaporize setting.

oh shit, just found this:


carry on @Chinaski. rusty hacksaw is the way to go, after all.
 
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oh shit, just found this:


carry on @Chinaski. rusty hacksaw is the way to go, after all.


Don't get me wrong, l am definitely determined to ctb, I'm just torn between the hacksaw and waiting for a Sarco machine to be placed in every public library, free at the point of need and in accordance with the manifesto outlined in the famous pro-choice campaigner suicide_is_good_lol_69's latest pro-choice vlog which, in my view, is a very realistic outcome and one worth waiting forty or fifty years for.
 
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Idorus

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Haha Joshua probably saves me from an overly expensive Sarco!
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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Yea I'm in! But I've never deeply thought about 'beating my brain to a pulp within a fraction' so this requires a new way of thinking somehow. But I totally get your point!

@JoshuaCohen135 what do you think of euthanasia (= the legal term here for the injectable way out - not with N as N is only used with "assisted suicide" by drinking it), of which here some details;
file:///home/chronos/u-6e2f68fdf9b5fda23d709421b6d86d6cb7c8f37d/Downloads/KNMG-KNMP_Euthanasie_Digi_ENG_DEF.pdf

If you mean injectible death, check out video of son letting his mom get euthanized by injection. Video sjlhows a religious woman who literally went by suicide with a smile on her face. Piano in the back.

Video later shows her morph to pure agony and green faced...with son going omg!

It's not pretty.

Suicide assistance all for it. Aren't we all here on this site?
 
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Idorus

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If you mean injectible death, check out video of son letting his mom get euthanized by injection. Video sjlhows a religious woman who literally went by suicide with a smile on her face. Piano in the back.

Video later shows her morph to pure agony and green faced...with son going omg!

It's not pretty.

Suicide assistance all for it. Aren't we all here on this site?

Trying to find it ... but googling piano / euthanasia / mom / son doesn't deliver anything related ....... if you have the time/energy to share a link I'm all open for it.
 
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JoshuaCohen135

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oh shit, just found this:


carry on @Chinaski. rusty hacksaw is the way to go, after all.


First nothing wrong with this if it's even feasible. I hear him say instant death.

I don't care about messy. That's the point of instant. It's gonna leave a mess. Preferrably leaving nothing but atoms of wjat was once your brain.

You don't look pretty when you die. Your residuals don't matter. What matters is shortcutting that final moment of pain/agony with a fast violent death.

Believe a TED explains that the majority of people are going to die slowly in the hospital or nursing home. Absolutely nobody wants that.

Midway is something like suicide or accidents where there's a fuckton of pain.

Dying by thunderbolt type of pain is instant and messy. No way around that but if it reduces the "experience" down to minimal you've just achieved the method.

And no...phasers are not realistic unless someone knows we've built something close to it already.

Something like an arcbolt current from industrial accidents exists. Video showing factory work hazards has demonstrated a man who instantly zapped himself with a bolt at work..suopose to be a work safety video.

In a few seconds all you see from the spark was his skull which I assume is close to near instant.
 
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Trying to find it ... but googling piano / euthanasia / mom / son doesn't deliver anything related ....... if you have the time/energy to share a link I'm all open for it.

It was posted a watch people die reddit post. Maybe you can request there.
 
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OfficerK

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If you mean injectible death, check out video of son letting his mom get euthanized by injection. Video sjlhows a religious woman who literally went by suicide with a smile on her face. Piano in the back.

Video later shows her morph to pure agony and green faced...with son going omg!

It's not pretty.

Suicide assistance all for it. Aren't we all here on this site?
Can you post a link to this video?

To delay your suicide until you've found a completely painless method is a safe way to to increase the total amount of pain you have to endure, assuming that you're here because of either physical or mental pain. Finding a method that you're capable of using is important and peacefulness is a part of that, sure. But as long as your method of choice possible to endure without calling for help - which can't be said about many methods - I think the main criteria should be reliability.

I can't really think of any method you'd find satisfactory where you can realistically obtain the necessary substances or tools. There probably are methods with a 100% lethality rate that are also painless and instant, but unless you somehow have unrestricted access to heavy weaponry and explosives, I don't see how any method can be better than N.
 
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Can you post a link to this video?

To delay your suicide until you've found a completely painless method is a safe way to to increase the total amount of pain you have to endure, assuming that you're here because of either physical or mental pain. Finding a method that you're capable of using is important and peacefulness is a part of that, sure. But as long as your method of choice possible to endure without calling for help - which can't be said about many methods - I think the main criteria should be reliability.

I can't really think of any method you'd find satisfactory where you can realistically obtain the necessary substances or tools. There probably are methods with a 100% lethality rate that are also painless and instant, but unless you somehow have unrestricted access to heavy weaponry and explosives, I don't see how any method can be better than N.

It's been awhile. You'll probably need to make a request on the reddit subthreads. It's where I found the video.

My fallback is the shotgun, but unfortunately, I'll have to obtain that via license and not going to be instant. Assuming you off yourself in one bullet:

1) initial shock
2) you'll still stop breathing which you may feel
3) Parts of your brain may still be intact with some consciousness or registration of pain

You can make it guaranteed by burning your surroundings (away from others or property) but not preferred.
 
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OfficerK

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It's been awhile. You'll probably need to make a request on the reddit subthreads. It's where I found the video.

My fallback is the shotgun, but unfortunately, I'll have to obtain that via license and not going to be instant. Assuming you off yourself in one bullet:

1) initial shock
2) you'll still stop breathing which you may feel
3) Parts of your brain may still be intact with some consciousness or registration of pain

You can make it guaranteed by burning your surroundings (away from others or property) but not preferred.
Yes, suicide by firearm leaves a risk of failure. By heavy weapons I meant something that would obliterate you instantly without your body even being able to register anything.

Again, if even Nembutal and shotgun to the head don't meet your requirements, and you're not able to create or obtain explosives that will do what I explained above, I'm afraid you'll have to abandon the idea of suicide altogether.
 
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Idorus

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@OfficerK let me know when you find the video, I will as well. Or anyone!
 
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The DMSO/SN method seems promising, although we only have one person's account of having used it. It wouldn't be instant, but it could possibly be painless and fairly quick.
 
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