Discussion What are some of the worst human traits in your opinion?

[1MiserableGuy]

Loads come right to the top of my head but I'll name a few

Narcissism
Cognitive dissonance
Willfull ignorance
NEETs
NPCs
Pathological lying

Basically all the things that, if you combine them together, create leftists

 

[sserafim]

Loads come right to the top of my head but I'll name a few

Narcissism
Cognitive dissonance
Willfull ignorance
NEETs
NPCs
Pathological lying

Basically all the things that, if you combine them together, create leftists

What's bad about being a NEET? Lol

 

[greebo6]

Cruelty

 

[1MiserableGuy]

What's bad about being a NEET? Lol

Willful rejection from the responsibility of making the world a better place than it is. There is a fundamental difference between someone who possesses a disability that requires someone else's assistance and someone totally capable of contributing, who voluntarily doesn't. On an individual level, people who go long enough without anything important to do fall into either crime or depression, or both. But collectively, ejection from society is lukewarm to the evil flushing it down the toilet.

 

[sserafim]

Willful rejection from the responsibility of making the world a better place than it is. There is a fundamental difference between someone who possesses a disability that requires someone else's assistance and someone totally capable of contributing, who voluntarily doesn't. On an individual level, people who go long enough without anything important to do fall into either crime or depression, or both. But collectively, ejection from society is lukewarm to the evil flushing it down the toilet.

I don't believe that we have the responsibility to make the world a better place. Are we obligated to? None of us chose to be born anyways. Why are we expected to contribute?

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I don't believe that we have the responsibility to make the world a better place. Are we obligated to? None of us chose to be born anyways. Why are we expected to contribute?

Beliefs =\= reality, for starters. The planet isn't ours to destroy, we're stewards of it and it belongs to someone else. Don't have to choose it or like it for it to be the way that it is.

 

[sserafim]

Beliefs =\= reality, for starters. The planet isn't ours to destroy, we're stewards of it and it belongs to someone else. Don't have to choose it or like it for it to be the way that it is.

Why do you think that we have a responsibility to make the world a better place than it is though? Honestly, I could care less about the world. It doesn't matter to me. Why is voluntarily not contributing "bad" in your opinion?

 

[1MiserableGuy]

Why do you think that we have a responsibility to make the world a better place than it is though? Honestly, I could care less about the world. It doesn't matter to me. Why is voluntarily not contributing "bad" in your opinion?

I just told you why, and you're ignoring the answer because you're not happy with it

 

[sserafim]

Beliefs =\= reality, for starters. The planet isn't ours to destroy, we're stewards of it and it belongs to someone else. Don't have to choose it or like it for it to be the way that it is.

Yeah, but if you're not actively destroying the planet or harming people, then you should have a neutral impact on it. You're not obligated to improve it or make it better. It's not your responsibility

 

[1MiserableGuy]

Yeah, but if you're not actively destroying the planet or harming people, then you should have a neutral impact on it. You're not obligated to improve it or make it better. It's not your responsibility

We fundamentally disagree. People don't own the earth. People are stewards of the earth. Everyone has that obligation. No impact is neutral, ejection is an accessory to the advancement of evil.

 

[sserafim]

ejection is an accessory to the advancement of evil.

What do you mean?

 

[1MiserableGuy]

What do you mean?

Allowing evil to happen, rather than acting to stop it, says a lot about character

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I think that the worst trait is humanity's ability to prefer emotions over logic. Because of this: euthanasia still isn't legalised despite the technology being available to do so, the strong trample over the weak, people act cruel towards each other to gain a higher rank in the rat race and so forth.

We fundamentally disagree. People don't own the earth. People are stewards of the earth. Everyone has that obligation. No impact is neutral, ejection is an accessory to the advancement of evil.

Firstly, why are people stewards of the earth when nobody even consented to existence to begin with? Also, an argument could be made that NEETs contribute to the world more positively than the average citizen as NEETs are less likely to have kids which in turn would save over a lot of carbon emissions. The average person procreates and makes the world worse by having to require to use their car more to drop and pick their kids to/from school as well as giving birth to somebody who will have their own car and be driving it for potentially a couple decades.

I still think that nobody should be responsible for being a steward unless if they signed a contract before birth saying "I agree to be birthed in order to become a steward" (plot twist: this is impossible to happen). However, I still think that NEETs are ironically better stewards than the average person as they overall contribute less to carbon emissions and greenhouse gasses

 

[sserafim]

But collectively, ejection from society is lukewarm to the evil flushing it down the toilet.

I still don't understand. You're not obligated to participate in society. I bet you think that the world doesn't owe us anything, yet why do you believe that we owe the world something? You should be allowed to eject yourself from society if you want. You shouldn't be forced to participate or contribute if you don't want to

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I still don't understand. You're not obligated to participate in society. I bet you think that the world doesn't owe us anything, yet why do you believe that we owe the world something? You should be allowed to eject yourself from society if you want. You shouldn't be forced to participate or contribute if you don't want to

Do you want to understand, or continue to equate your beliefs to reality and argue?

 

[KillingPain267]

The love of money = root of ALL evil

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I think that the worst trait is humanity's ability to prefer emotions over logic. Because of this: euthanasia still isn't legalised despite the technology being available to do so, the strong trample over the weak, people act cruel towards each other to gain a higher rank in the rat race and so forth.

Firstly, why are people stewards of the earth when nobody even consented to existence to begin with? Also, an argument could be made that NEETs contribute to the world more positively than the average citizen as NEETs are less likely to have kids which in turn would save over a lot of carbon emissions. The average person procreates and makes the world worse by having to require to use their car more to drop and pick their kids to/from school as well as giving birth to somebody who will have their own car and be driving it for potentially a couple decades.

I still think that nobody should be responsible for being a steward unless if they signed a contract before birth saying "I agree to be birthed in order to become a steward" (plot twist: this is impossible to happen). However, I still think that NEETs are ironically better stewards than the average person as they overall contribute less to carbon emissions and greenhouse gasses

The Achilles' heel of your take is that it spits in the face of nature. By running on the assumption that people themselves are the problem, and not the things that people do, you have created an entire worldview that promotes death. You have to have a certain level of carbon to live. No living creature on earth consents to be born. Just because you are unhappy with reality does not change reality.

 

[surroundedbydemons]

Recalled this scene from Death Note: L about monsters

What's bad about being a NEET? Lol

Some people view contributing to society through cooperation as more beneficial than pursuing individualism.
The problem arises when everyone gets the benefits while not everyone works. For example, everyone benefits from public goods that are paid for by taxes, such as parks, roads, etc. I believe this is called the free-rider problem.

I am not judging whether it is good or bad; I am just providing you with the kind of logic that people might use.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Psychopathy, cruelty, egoism, envy, deceitfulness

 

[Argo]

Sadism/malice/spite. Any kind of bad intention. Whoever said lying, that's another good one, because that's often a barrier to resolving those other traits(since we deceive ourselves with bullshit stories about why doing things we know deep down are bad, are justified). These traits aren't worth hating, because that's just falling into the same trap. They're solved through understanding and kindness when it's possible to solve(it's often not possible)

 

[Silent_cries]

Being extremely religious imo. Mild religion ok as long as no one is affected outchy bc of it, but from my experience extremely religious ppl are often toxic and outchy to others and I very dislike that.

 

[xinino]

I don't believe in social morality. "I think it's oppressing the individual" so any traits beyond family benefits are rejected. In this context, manipulative love is the worst trait because it destroyed my baby girl, she should have had more vanity.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Idk because how good or bad a trait is depends on context. I guess greed could be seen as one of the worst traits seen amongst humans, though it isn't always bad. We evolved to have many of the traits we see within our species because in some way they were useful in our survival. As a result, there is always a bit of nuance to be had when discussing even the more "negative" traits we have.

Greed for money, status, and power has led to the creation of all sorts of horrible power structures that have caused harmed to many. We can especially see this when looking at the capitalist world we live in, where wealth is valued over the well-being of others. You have people with more money than they know to do with who refuse to use any of their wealth to help others, instead trying to horde as much of it as possible for themselves. When people become focused on trying to gain as much as possible with no concern for anyone but themselves then they start to lose their humanity. They stop caring about anyone but themselves. All they want in life is to continue gaining more and more without any care towards how little they even need of that thing. They are never satisfied.