Your thoughts Argon+exit bag..

[TrashMax]

Hello... this is my first post in here, but I've been reading quite a lot in here...
Long story short - I'm suffering from deep depression for last 4years now (maybe more) but I can't stand any more, nothing helps and everything just ruins piece by piece in my life... and I'm just going deeper and deeper in depression...
In last couple weeks I tried 4 times to ctb and unfortunately all failed... 2 with technical issues with argon, 2 because of SI 1)hanging 2)argon and bag (but I ducktaped bag to neck, so started suffering of CO2)... SI is a bitch!!!!

For now I've got everything ready for exit bag ctb...
I've got 40cf Argon tank, then i got a flow regulator (actual argon regulator) with pressure gauge and LPM gauge, I've made a 3 different sizes exit bags with string ties... also first I planned to do it with non-rebreather oxygen mask, but change my mind recently after reading posts in here (but still have masks)

Any suggestions? I will be happy with any information, Thanks in advance

P.S. sorry for my english, I'm not native English speake

 

[GasMonkey]

SCBA

 

[outrider567]

Hello... this is my first post in here, but I've been reading quite a lot in here...
Long story short - I'm suffering from deep depression for last 4years now (maybe more) but I can't stand any more, nothing helps and everything just ruins piece by piece in my life... and I'm just going deeper and deeper in depression...
In last couple weeks I tried 4 times to ctb and unfortunately all failed... 2 with technical issues with argon, 2 because of SI 1)hanging 2)argon and bag (but I ducktaped bag to neck, so started suffering of CO2)... SI is a bitch!!!!

For now I've got everything ready for exit bag ctb...
I've got 40cf Argon tank, then i got a flow regulator (actual argon regulator) with pressure gauge and LPM gauge, I've made a 3 different sizes exit bags with string ties... also first I planned to do it with non-rebreather oxygen mask, but change my mind recently after reading posts in here (but still have masks)

Any suggestions? I will be happy with any information, Thanks in advance

P.S. sorry for my english, I'm not native English speake

Should test it first with an oximeter

 

[TrashMax]

Should test it first with an oximeter

Well the first two attempts was with the usual oxygen masks, but what a waste of time, effort and GAS!!! So then I decided go with non-rebreather mask, but after reading, reading and reading - i decided stick to the classic version with exit bag...
So I really doubt it, there is issue with gas in bag, flow is smooth, no leaks and everything is sound... but to be sure, I'll consider that as well... Thanks!

 

[outrider567]

Well the first two attempts was with the usual oxygen masks, but what a waste of time, effort and GAS!!! So then I decided go with non-rebreather mask, but after reading, reading and reading - i decided stick to the classic version with exit bag...
So I really doubt it, there is issue with gas in bag, flow is smooth, no leaks and everything is sound... but to be sure, I'll consider that as well... Thanks!

My Oxygen dropped from 98 to 50 after just 4 deep breaths with Nitrogen--Remember that the oximeter will delay the reading by about 20 seconds, so once you see the number dropping, stop breathing in the gas and watch the number go down

 

[TrashMax]

My Oxygen dropped from 98 to 50 after just 4 deep breaths with Nitrogen

What was your set up flow LPM?

 

[outrider567]

What was your set up flow LPM?

15--I tried 25 LPM one time but the oximeter couldn't handle it

 

[TrashMax]

15--I tried 25 LPM one time but the oximeter couldn't handle it

So what is the best solution? Small bag (just in time)or bigger one (with extra space)???

Should test it first with an oximeter

Is that's the one which you kinda put on finger, ya?

 

[jodes2]

You do know that 4 years isn't all that long in terms of trying options to recover from depression? It does often take longer to find something that works, and to find inspiration to enjoy life again. I really hope you'll reconsider CTB, things can get better

 

[TrashMax]

You do know that 4 years isn't all that long in terms of trying options to recover from depression? It does often take longer to find something that works, and to find inspiration to enjoy life again. I really hope you'll reconsider CTB, things can get better

I'm tired of all that... I can't handle it any more, I lost everything what did I had... I'm kinda homeless now and alone, ALONE... nobody gizza shit about me, so do I don't gizza shit about myself....
I don't know what to do... I'm desperate... I'm collapsing, and every day so further and further...

 

[jodes2]

I'm tired of all that... I can't handle it any more, I lost everything what did I had... I'm kinda homeless now and alone, ALONE... nobody gizza shit about me, so do I don't gizza shit about myself....
I don't know what to do... I'm desperate... I'm collapsing, and every day so further and further...

Can't get apply to the government to get social housing? This is fixable! Don't throw a potentially good life away!

 

[TrashMax]

Can't get apply to the government to get social housing? This is fixable! Don't throw a potentially good life away!

Good life? Where? I can't see any... fck the government... they just gonna lock you up and put badge on you, where you definitely not gonna be able get back your life...

 

[jodes2]

Good life? Where? I can't see any... fck the government... they just gonna lock you up and put badge on you, where you definitely not gonna be able get back your life...

Not true! Get help!!!

 

[TrashMax]

I'm wasted

 

[HelloIMustBeGoing]

I think abandoning all the masks and just going with the classic bag is a good idea. Have you watched that "Betty Bag" video with the elderly woman? My plan is to go with the 15 LPM flow, using a turkey bag with the string on the bottom, and following the advice on that video. But it seems like you know what you need to do.

That said, I found once I had all my equipment in place ... I know at any time I can instantly end my life ... that liberated me a little bit to just try and find tiny pockets of joy wherever I can. Like enjoying food and my cat (I still hate people) and just not giving a fuck as much as I did.

Edit: Just noticed that betty bag video was scrubbed from the internet

 

[TrashMax]

I think abandoning all the masks and just going with the classic bag is a good idea. Have you watched that "Betty Bag" video with the elderly woman? My plan is to go with the 15 LPM flow, using a turkey bag with the string on the bottom, and following the advice on that video. But it seems like you know what you need to do.

That said, I found once I had all my equipment in place ... I know at any time I can instantly end my life ... that liberated me a little bit to just try and find tiny pockets of joy wherever I can. Like enjoying food and my cat (I still hate people) and just not giving a fuck as much as I did.

Edit: Just noticed that betty bag video was scrubbed from the internet

Yeah, i couldn't get any step by step from betty, but I did found how to make it, and for me... it looks quiet decent...
I have readed about heavy smokers issue's, as I am a heavy smoker, I'm now in doubt with what flow rating should I go...

 

[outrider567]

So what is the best solution? Small bag (just in time)or bigger one (with extra space)???

Is that's the one which you kinda put on finger, ya?

Yes, on your finger--My oximeter tests were with an EEBD hood

 

[TrashMax]

Well I'm not sure will I have to time to get it...
All the things gone worse, and I'm actually thinking to try (hopefully final time) tonight to "catch my bus"...

 

[ditsyking]

Is it possible to use gases without an expensive equipment,masks etc? Just gas in a small closed bathroom, closing the air flow under the door?

 

[befree]

Better use nitrogen or helium with SCUBA or SCBA equipment.

How to inhale Nitrogen gas from Clinder?

I bought Nitrogen Cylinder and regulator, but how to inhale pure nitrogen, like which mask/connector pipe I do need buy? Exit bag I am not sure what it is and its not available in India. Someone please help me to CTB by using N cylinder

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