Discussion Would you try out a Non Sanctioned Suicide forum? Poll

[Forever Sleep]

Let's say a group of individuals or a professional body set up a forum to discuss suicide- like this one EXCEPT, it did more to nudge people more towards life. In effect- it was more pro-life.

So, you'd still be free to vent about how much you hated life and wanted to die but, the responses would be more along the lines of finding a way to recover. Obviously, no method information would be available.

Do you think you'd try it? Personally, I don't. I'm not interested in having my ideas challenged or changed. I'm too old (44), too stubborn, too unmotivated and too lazy to work towards recovery now. Honestly, it makes me kind of cringe imagining some of the responses that would be on there.

How about you though?

 

[RoseGarden]

much like you I'm not willing to have my ideas challenged anymore. people have tried to talk me out of it, but it's never going to work. the reasons i want to ctb are systematic in nature, and individuals can't solve systematic issues alone.

 

[2messdup]

Let's say a group of individuals or a professional body set up a forum to discuss suicide- like this one EXCEPT, it did more to nudge people more towards life. In effect- it was more pro-life.

So, you'd still be free to vent about how much you hated life and wanted to die but, the responses would be more along the lines of finding a way to recover. Obviously, no method information would be available.

Do you think you'd try it? Personally, I don't. I'm not interested in having my ideas challenged or changed. I'm too old (44), too stubborn, too unmotivated and too lazy to work towards recovery now. Honestly, it makes me kind of cringe imagining some of the responses that would be on there.

How about you though?

Yes, I would. I don't want to die. I want to end the suffering. If they could really suggest ways to reduce the suffering and find hope and joy then I'd grasp it with both hands. But if it was motivational talking then I'd swiftly leave. Would have to discuss practical skills.

 

[Ramsay Fiction]

No, I dislike when my thoughts about ending my life are met with those kinds of words. I'd get frustrated and without method information I feel like it'd be a useless resource. I already know how to find recovery information, there's a reason I ignore it.

Good for anyone who would thrive in a place like that though.

 

[Steff1337]

Personally, as of now, this is the only forum I need on the internet.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Only if that forum could actually help me recover in a way I'd be willing to do. I don't think that's even possible though so I guess I wouldn't bother.

 

[rozeske]

God no! Not at this time, in my current mental state and my current living reality. The only thing I want is to die as peacefully and as quickly as possible and in the meantime a place i find to make my days bearable without judgment and unsolicited advice. I'm just too tired for recovery and ways to manage to live. I'm not completely opposed to the idea though. It might be of help to people who want it.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Interesting question! But generally it's very difficult to make people move to another forum/service they aren't familiar with. I mean that in general. It's very difficult to make regular users that are satisfied with the "product" they are using to move over to another "service" without huge incentives and advantages.

I'm unsure what I would do. Most likely no (atm) - I feel at home here.

I'm probably curious enough to register and see how it is.

 

[LunarLight]

I'd lurk a bit to see what it is like and then decide.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

No one can change my mind in anything

For example I challenge anyone to tell me why I have to live , why I have to have children, why do I have to accept pain and suffering and problems and work? There is no reason. I wonder what these prolifers would say to that challenge . why do I have to live and suffer since I'm going to die anyway no matter what? Why suffer for years and then be tortured to death and die anyway when I can take a drink and end this torture today? I'm going to die either way but if I don't suicide I'll be tortured to death

Nothing matters except avoiding extreme pain. It's the only thing I want to do and no one can tell me I have to live or watch youtube or have children or work or watch news or do anything

Plus I want to die. Even if I were a billionaire healthty young all the elements of a "good" life I would still want non-existence asap . I don't want anything from this evil life and evil world

Non-existence forever is the most beautiful thing by a trillion times. I reached that conclusion through my own rational thinking

 

[Redleaf1992]

I actually think the recovery section is already really good for this (shame it's less active relative to the sucide section).

It depends alot on the content. I'm all for encouraging support and help, but it's got to be meaningful and true to the heart not empty statements like 'your not alone'.

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

I did try that out once. Not going there ever again, yikes. With you guys I really feel understood and supported. Over there it was constant blaming, trying to "fix" me, gaslighting, oh and let's not forget the christians with their promises of hell.

 

[doneforlife]

I actually think the recovery section is already really good for this (shame it's less active relative to the sucide section).

It depends alot on the content. I'm all for encouraging support and help, but it's got to be meaningful and true to the heart not empty statements like 'your not alone'.

. Why do they even say it ? I know I am not alone .

No one can change my mind in anything

For example I challenge anyone to tell me why I have to live , why I have to have children, why do I have to accept pain and suffering and problems and work? There is no reason. I wonder what these proliferd would say to that challenge why do I have to live and suffer since I'm going to die anyway mottaer what? Why suffer for years then be tortured to death and die anyway when I can take a drink and end this torture today? I'm going to geie either way but if I don't suicide I'll be tortured to death

Nothing matters except avoiding extreme pain. It's the only thing I want to do and no one can tell me I have to live or watch YouTube or have children or work or watch news or do anything

Plus I want to die. Even if I were a billionaire healthty young all the elements of a "good" life I would still want non-existence asap

Non-existence forever is the most beautiful thing by a trillion times. I reached that conclusion through my own rational thinking

I think you have reached a state of enlightenment. It's said , if you don't want anything from this world anymore, you have become free .

 

[Redleaf1992]

I did try that out once. Not going there ever again yikes. With you guys I really feel understood and supported. Over there it was constant blaming, trying to "fix" me, gaslighting, oh and let's not forget the christians with their promises of hell.

Out of curiosity what was the site name?

 

[ijustwishtodie]

No, such a forum would be a nightmare. I'm here because I'm trying to escape the people who justify life and wage slavery no matter what. I do consider myself relatively open minded and I'll listen to any ideas that get thrown at me but I'm not interested in hearing the same mindless drivel produced by society day in day out. I know that I'm not wrong in my views and I don't want to deal with people who can't give good arguments against my views

 

[doneforlife]

Let's say a group of individuals or a professional body set up a forum to discuss suicide- like this one EXCEPT, it did more to nudge people more towards life. In effect- it was more pro-life.

So, you'd still be free to vent about how much you hated life and wanted to die but, the responses would be more along the lines of finding a way to recover. Obviously, no method information would be available.

Do you think you'd try it? Personally, I don't. I'm not interested in having my ideas challenged or changed. I'm too old (44), too stubborn, too unmotivated and too lazy to work towards recovery now. Honestly, it makes me kind of cringe imagining some of the responses that would be on there.

How about you though?

Yeah that's for people who have not tried enough. I don't fall in that category either. I don't even know how that would be helpful!

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

Out of curiosity what was the site name?

I can't remember, this was a pretty long time ago.

 

[SVEN]

No, I doubt they'd have any type of empathy with how someone who truly wants to die is feeling. I need a place where folk can just accept the state I'm in, not try to change and remould me into the frame of mind they feel I should have.

 

[ThatGuyOverThere]

Nah, Why would I chose to post somewhere in which delusional, people who have tricked themselves, would try and use there flawed logic, to coax me to there way of thinking. I already deal with people doing such things in my personal life, trying to get me into a "Motivated" mindset so that I become some thoughtless Robot, that parrots pro-life talking point, to the point in which I become, A depressed but, delusional optimistic, idiot, trained to "Only look on the bright side".

 

[Username1359751]

I came here for the methods, and stayed 'just cause' Ig. But if there's no methods, there's no lure personally. Like another user said, I'm too far gone and too old to just hop on to mosey around and lurk.

 

[moonoverthesea]

No, and I dare to say most people on here won't - I'm assuming my experience is common, but it was a bit of a hassle finding this site exactly because I wanted a neutral, not "prolife" community. People who are ok with a more forcefully positive view probably stopped their search at any of the other sites where you can vent but no methods can be named and only "positive" responses are allowed, as they are a lot easier to find and access.

(Though maybe other countries' Google searches are less censored than my country's?)

 

[BlockHammer]

Well, we had a lot of that kind of group btw, and some of them like everyone in the comment section said they were stuborn to keep their ideal, they don't want to hear the idea about suicide being justified, they'll fight tooth and nail to maintain the idea that suicide will never be an option

 

[suicidaltransgirl]

How would this hypothetical forum ensure that the responses are more pro-life leaning? That would require censorship or rules that disallow certain types of responses or topics, which would kill the authenticity of the site in my opinion. If I wanted that, I would just go on reddit.

 

[Forever Sleep]

How would this hypothetical forum ensure that the responses are more pro-life leaning? That would require censorship or rules that disallow certain types of responses or topics, which would kill the authenticity of the site in my opinion. If I wanted that, I would just go on reddit.

I guess- however Reddit manages it- has strict rules? Warns and bans people? Not sure. I feel the same as you. It's not something I would be interested in. I was just curious to see if people would be.

I suppose mainly, I feel like for the activists that hate this site and spend their time attacking it, I wish they'd focus their efforts on providing a 'safer' alternative. I think it's mostly minors they're worried about and honestly- I'd like it if people had somewhere else to go where they could be honest about how they feel and receive support. But then, I also wonder how many people would actually use it. Like you say- I think people come here because they want to get away from all of that pro-life bias.

 

[SoulWhisperer]

Mindlessly pushing someone to either side is bad in my opinion. We have a recovery section too here and nobody forces you to do anything either. I wouldn't like to be in a place where people just deny/discardl/not acknowledge how you feel just to say "suck it up baby and keep on living" like a sort of mantra. This is reality, things not always work as intended and it's mature to understand that in my mind.

 

[Ash]

I thought you meant another forum like SS. What you're describing isn't like SS so it's a bit of a false equivalency. Apples and pears and bricks and all that.

 

[Zhendou]

I would try it for sure if they give me valid reasons to live, but they must be respectful to opposing views and to people who want to CTB instead of forcing them to an institution. They must treat people who want to CTB as human beings and truly hear them out for me to join.

 

[CowardStaysIn]

I'm not particularly interested in "recovery" because it really isn't. And I'm not in the mood to be challenged by cliches and being told to "think of your family". How about "think of yourself", for once?

I did try that out once. Not going there ever again, yikes. With you guys I really feel understood and supported. Over there it was constant blaming, trying to "fix" me, gaslighting, oh and let's not forget the christians with their promises of hell.

Ugh, the Hell bullshit. The only Hell is right here. In the land of the living. Of course, they can't profit off you if you're dead. That's all the so-called Church cares about.

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

Ugh, the Hell bullshit. The only Hell is right here. In the land of the living. Of course, they can't profit off you if you're dead. That's all the so-called Church cares about.

Exactly, it just can't get any worse than this. I've already been to the deepest pits of hell. They can't scare me lol.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Unlikely, like some, I don't want my ideas and conclusions I've personally come to FOR MYSELF, after many years, to be challenged. There's a reason I pretty much stick to one side of this place, I know what I want.