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I developed an online friendship with someone which has gone on for a couple of years now. They are quite literally my best friend. But we're continents apart and have never met and nor would we ever meet probably, even if I were to live to 100. They would have no way of knowing that I'm dead I imagine as they have no ties to my life outside our relationship. I'm wondering if it'd be better to say goodbye or to just go dark?
 
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I developed an online friendship with someone which has gone on for a couple of years now. They are quite literally my best friend. But we're continents apart and have never met and nor would we ever meet probably, even if I were to live to 100. They would have no way of knowing that I'm dead I imagine as they have no ties to my life outside our relationship. I'm wondering if it'd be better to say goodbye or to just go dark?

That's a really tough decision. If you say "goodbye," how do you preserve your privacy (if you don't want to tell them you're ending your life) without making them feel you're abandoning them? And if you tell them why you're leaving, do you risk losing a valuable relationship, even at the end? Thanks for posting this question... I don't have any friends or relatives anymore, but when I did, I worried about the effects of my suicide on them (not that I thought I should--I just did). This is the silver lining to not having anyone in your life & you've helped me appreciate it more. I'd really like to know what you decide, if you care to update us. Best of luck to you.
 
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That's a really tough decision. If you say "goodbye," how do you preserve your privacy (if you don't want to tell them you're ending your life) without making them feel you're abandoning them? And if you tell them why you're leaving, do you risk losing a valuable relationship, even at the end? Thanks for posting this question... I don't have any friends or relatives anymore, but when I did, I worried about the effects of my suicide on them (not that I thought I should--I just did). This is the silver lining to not having anyone in your life & you've helped me appreciate it more. I'd really like to know what you decide, if you care to update us. Best of luck to you.
Quite honestly, I envy you. I wish I had no one. Ctb would be a lot easier and less complicated that way. But I do have people in my life that love and care for me immensely. How do I make them understand that I just can't anymore??
 
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I wouldn't burden him/her with the news of your impending suicide. Of course it won't be fun when you suddenly dissapear without saying anything but at least there won't be any guilt and wondering why you did it and how it could have been prevented.

Sadly I can't just dissapear out of the lives of those that know me: they will know I killed myself. Running is no option: if I can't make under these circumstances I probably won't under any other. I doubt I can find the means for peaceful death abroad.

Compared to leaving relatives and real life friends behind I'd say this is somewhat of a luxury problem as you actually have the option to keep it from that person.

It's a legitimate concern though. Ultimately it's up to you to decide what to do.

You could of course explore this friendship further and maybe visit this person some day. It might actually give you a reason to live.
 
seekingoblivion

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That's a really tough decision. If you say "goodbye," how do you preserve your privacy (if you don't want to tell them you're ending your life) without making them feel you're abandoning them? And if you tell them why you're leaving, do you risk losing a valuable relationship, even at the end? Thanks for posting this question... I don't have any friends or relatives anymore, but when I did, I worried about the effects of my suicide on them (not that I thought I should--I just did). This is the silver lining to not having anyone in your life & you've helped me appreciate it more. I'd really like to know what you decide, if you care to update us. Best of luck to you.
Thank you for your comment! All of those things you've mentioned are things I worry about. Not to mention the effects my death could have on her. She gets moments of strong anxiety and has been depressed for a long time. She's been through a lot in her life. And I worry that my death will cause her some anguish. Of course it's probably my vanity talking and I'm probably exaggerating my importance to this person. But she does worry quite easily and gets emotionally affected. Fact is her and my parents are who I think about the most when it comes to the pain I'm leaving behind. But I no longer feel like I have to live for them cause I'm just too tired to keep this up. While I do appreciate that there are people in my life who care about me I do sometimes feel like I'd be better off without anyone. It'd make this whole thing much easier.

Hey weren't you supposed to send me a pizza? I thought we had a friendship agreement!
I wouldn't burden him/her with the news of your impending suicide. Of course it won't be fun when you suddenly dissapear without saying anything but at least there won't be any guilt and wondering why you did it and how it could have been prevented.
That's what I was thinking. It might be better to leave them wondering than to give them an answer that's more pain than it'll ever be worth.
 
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Thank you for your comment! All of those things you've mentioned are things I worry about. Not to mention the effects my death could have on her. She gets moments of strong anxiety and has been depressed for a long time. She's been through a lot in her life. And I worry that my death will cause her some anguish. Of course it's probably my vanity talking and I'm probably exaggerating my importance to this person. But she does worry quite easily and gets emotionally affected. Fact is her and my parents are who I think about the most when it comes to the pain I'm leaving behind. But I no longer feel like I have to live for them cause I'm just too tired to keep this up. While I do appreciate that there are people in my life who care about me I do sometimes feel like I'd be better off without anyone. It'd make this whole thing much easier.

Hey weren't you supposed to send me a pizza? I thought we had a friendship agreement!

That's what I was thinking. It might be better to leave them wondering than to give them an answer that's more pain than it'll ever be worth.


Do you ever wish our parents had deliberated over the possible effects on us from their choice (to have us) as much as we do about how our suicide will impact others? Your anxieties about your friend are all totally understandable. :(

I hope you like veggies.... ;-)

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Do you ever wish our parents had deliberated over the possible effects on us from their choice (to have us) as much as we do about how our suicide will impact others? You anxieties about your friend are all totally understandable. :(
I always wish it. I mean for most people who have kids it's just something they do without really going deep into thought about what it could mean. I mean they think about it I'm sure but not to the degree that would cover potential life threatening physical/psychological/philosophical problems. I suppose though most people don't normally get this suicidal before they have kids so those aren't really their biggest concerns. Or if they do it doesn't last long enough for it to make them think the first problem with life is being around to experience it in the first place. I don't know it's all just speculation. We'll have to ask the people here with kids what was going on before, during and after they had them.
I hope you like veggies.... ;-)

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Not so much but that looks good! We're officially friends!! Now I'm worried about whether or not to tell you when I ctb lol
 
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my friend knows... i mean they knew i was depressed and suicidal and that i wanted to die but now they know i will kms soon ... i ve never wanted to hurt my friend but i did and i hate myself so much for that but disappearing without a reason would have hurt them too ... i love my friend so much and they are the best bc they understand me and they are not trying to stop me even tho they re hurting a lot..it hurts too much to leave them ... im so sorry u find urself in this situation it just sucks ... i dont think there's a way to make it hurt less i wish i could live just to stay with my friend and be with them when they need me but im desperate )));
 
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my friend knows... i mean they knew i was depressed and suicidal and that i wanted to die but now they know i will kms soon ... i ve never wanted to hurt my friend but i did and i hate myself so much for that but disappearing without a reason would have hurt them too ... i love my friend so much and they are the best bc they understand me and they are not trying to stop me even tho they re hurting a lot..it hurts too much to leave them ... im so sorry u find urself in this situation it just sucks ... i dont think there's a way to make it hurt less i wish i could live just to stay with my friend and be with them when they need me but im desperate )));
I'm so sorry you're in that situation. God this hits hard. I also wish I could stay for them but it's becoming unbearable. She knows I've had feelings of depression and suicide too but I haven't brought those up in a long time cause I don't want to hurt her. I don't know if she'll think I did it even if I just disappear. It looks like whatever I do I'm just gonna hurt her. But I'm trying to figure out which hurts less.
 
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Do you think it would hurt her less if she thought you died in a car accident (as an example)? If so, you could maybe leave a request in your suicide note that she be contacted and informed of your death, but without mentioning suicide as the cause.
 
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seekingoblivion

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Dec 11, 2018
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Do you think it would hurt her less if she thought you died in a car accident (as an example)? If so, you could maybe leave a request in your suicide note that she be contacted and informed of your death, but without mentioning suicide as the cause.
That'd be a good idea. Only thing is i can't trust the people I leave behind to care enough about that. Especially given I wouldn't be around to enforce the request. But I think it would hurt less than if I let her know that I'm offing myself.
 
throwaway777

throwaway777

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Oct 3, 2018
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hey can u keep us updated ... i mean id like to find the way to hurt less my friend even tho they already know about me being suicidal
 
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seekingoblivion

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Dec 11, 2018
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hey can u keep us updated ... i mean id like to find the way to hurt less my friend even tho they already know about me being suicidal
Well I'm still trying to figure it out but I'll keep you posted. It's really hard cause there's no one I can talk to about this in my life who could just mention that I died without mentioning that I killed myself. I don't want my friend to feel abandoned.
 
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ScorpiusDragon

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Mar 25, 2019
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I developed an online friendship with someone which has gone on for a couple of years now. They are quite literally my best friend. But we're continents apart and have never met and nor would we ever meet probably, even if I were to live to 100. They would have no way of knowing that I'm dead I imagine as they have no ties to my life outside our relationship. I'm wondering if it'd be better to say goodbye or to just go dark?
I would say goodbye if I were you. I'm in a similar situation. My best friend is someone I met online. We never met in person. Before I kill myself, I will send him a message telling him how much our friendship meant to me and how much I care about him.
 
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seekingoblivion

Arcanist
Dec 11, 2018
454
I would say goodbye if I were you. I'm in a similar situation. My best friend is someone I met online. We never met in person. Before I kill myself, I will send him a message telling him how much our friendship meant to me and how much I care about him.
I'm not sure. See there's something I neglected to mention. I had another friend who just went silent on me a few months ago. Now my mind goes racing back and forth over whether she's dead or she just went silent on me (of which, despite being irreligious, I constantly pray the latter to be true). And while it's painful I'm not sure I'd be as okay as I am today if I knew for sure she has taken her life. Cause you see months prior she said goodbye to me in a series of little messages saying she's swallowed pills. My heart sank and it felt like I wasn't in real life. I felt weak all over until she contacted saying she vomited. Given that brief experience of panic and despair I'm not sure it's less cruel to tell the person you're ctb versus leaving them to wonder. It's all just a mess.
 

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