Would you agree that many young people's depression is due to their unrealistic expectations?

[motel rooms]

You might get your wish! Any day now it might happen!

Nah, an actual civil war would be bad for the business oligarchs & the politicians in their pockets

 

[Zzzzz]

Nah, an actual civil war would be bad for the business oligarchs & the politicians in their pockets

I was kidding of course! I put the laughing emoji In but it didn't show up! lol Americans hate each other but I don't we are at the point of civil war at this time.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Good thread, @hotelbeneathground
I agree with the thoughts of your original post. I like the discussion and where your head is at. Not much else to add

 

[Bone]

These days, I think a lot of kids have anxiety and depression from growing up in a volatile time globally, as well as spending so much time on social media and gaming. There is more pressure on them than ever to succeed academically, and the dizzying pace of information can only have a fragmenting effect on their developing minds. Furthermore, add in those with shitty parents or siblings or whatever and the normal difficulties, stresses, and pressures of growing up, and it's clear to see why young people are having a hard time.

I fall into this category even though I'm in my 30s. Had a very sheltered/emotionally abusive upbringing, and nobody who should have clued into the fact that I needed a heavy dose of reality. I thought things would be a cinch once I got my independence. Growing up in the 90s mainly, I lived a fantasy life without realistic parenting-rather, out of touch boomers (one very narcissistic alcoholic and the other passive enabler) led to my demise. I crashed and burned immediately upon turning 18, and it's been a massive uphill battle ever since. The number of bad decisions I've made is too many to count, and I do attribute a lot of that to thinking "things are gonna work out just fine anyway". Cue severe mental illness with an onset over a decade in the making, and I certainly got my dose of reality all right. I've gone through more suffering than anyone I personally know and been through hell and back with psychotic delusions and hallucinations, followed by multiple years long deep, suicidal depressions. The things I've seen and been through in these experiences alone are shocking and saddening, from doctors to colleagues to the homeless to friends and family...it's all been dark and depressing. I grew up escaping on the developing internet and through video games-which was a nice time to be alive-but the real world crushed me due to both my genetics and environmental upbringing. I certainly "get" things now about the world, but it's far, far too late.

Personally, I see mental illness and suicide rates growing dramatically over the future, though I won't be around to see it. I do not see society suddenly becoming more accommodating and understanding; it's already hyper-competitive and people cling to whatever scraps of success they can get. Just looking at the contrast between vanilla "mental health awareness" and what it's *actually* like for people in communities like SS...at least we talk about things now, but for people in really shit situations...good luck. It seems like things are moving much more in the direction of every person for themself, both socially and economically. Lots of individuals, groups, and companies do lip service to inclusivity and acceptance, yet we have insane numbers around the world in crisis at any given moment.

Fundamentally, it's just an overpopulated and incredibly complex world, and there is not a lot of room for error anymore. I'm not gonna be one of those "wrong generation" types, but the world I expected growing up is not the world I entered and live in-partially my fault for bad decision-making, but even moreso because of the parenting I received (or didn't!). For better or for worse, the world has told me I'm not welcome in it, quite succinctly...and though it may not be so dramatic for others, I think plenty of others end up getting the painful picture like I did, soon enough. Once I started having a really hard time, I was abandoned progressively more as time went on-but it started at home as a kid. "Hell is other people".

A bit rambling, but I hope that serves as somewhat of an answer.

 

[SuicideBoys93]

I honestly feel like social media has played a major part in the downfall of mental health amongst younger ages. As a kid when there was no Facebook or Instagrams of the world, I never recall feeling how I feel today. Granted I don't believe I'm ancient at 28, but I was around pre-MySpace. When you get online and see how great everyone seems to be doing or someone that is far more attractive than you, or lives what seems to be more of an exciting life the shit feelings settle in. The place is a breeding ground for your insecurities to feel exploited or be magnified when you're viewing what you view to seem as perfect people. I could be entirely wrong, but I do believe the link to social media and poor mental health is legitimate.

 

[Deleted member 8579]

Not much else to add

Except, of course, for a full stop at the end of this sentence.

 

[motel rooms]

Except, of course, for a full stop at the end of this sentence.

Oh, you bitchy bitch!

 

[Deleted member 8579]

Oh, you bitchy bitch!

I really hope people realise I'm just joking.

 

[motel rooms]

I really hope people realise I'm just joking.

You still haven't realized that all your hopes are in vain?

 

[Deleted member 8579]

You still haven't realized that all your hopes are in vain?

Well, the hope that I'll just drop dead because of a brain tumour certainly helps me get through the day.

 

[motel rooms]

Well, the hope that I'll just drop dead due to a brain tumour certainly helps me get through the day.

A brain aneurysm? No, I won't correct your grave error in the quote. And "due to" means "caused by", not "because of".

 

[Deleted member 8579]

A brain aneurysm? No, I won't correct your grave error in the quote. And "due to" means "caused by", not "because".

No, a brain tumour. That's how George Gershwin died. I am prone to headaches, so I always fantasise about them being caused by a tumour.

Why do we two always have these idiotic discussions?

 

[motel rooms]

No, a brain tumour. That's how George Gershwin died. I am prone to headaches, so I always fantasise about them being caused by a tumour. "Due to" means "because of", so I don't see any problem.

No, it means "caused by"!!! And I demand you correct my quote - I wrote "because of", not "because"! My post was last edited 6 minutes before you replied to it! @Shadowplay, we're at it again.

I've honestly never heard of anyone just dropping dead because of a brain tumor.

Why do we two always have these idiotic discussions?

Because we're idiots?

 

[Deleted member 8579]

No, it means "caused by"!!!

I was going to dismiss your point because you used three exclamation marks, but I'm afraid you're right. What is the world coming to? I'm going to find my old English teacher and make him pay for this humiliation.

And I demand you correct my quote - I wrote "because of", not "because"

Only if you correct mine.

I don't understand the gifs you attached, but there are many things I don't understand, such as basic English grammar. I already proofread everything three times before I post, and discussions like this one undermine the last bit of confidence I have in my English skills. I am grateful to you for pointing out this error of mine, as I've used "due to" and "because of" interchangeably up to this point, but I just can't get out of my head.

Because we're idiots?

You don't need a question mark.

 

[motel rooms]

I already proofread everything three times before I post

That's frightening.

and discussions like this one undermine the last bit of confidence I have in my English skills.

Oh, STFU. 90 % of native English speakers have worse English skills than you. I bet your British accent is impeccable. You probably sound (& dress & act) like one of the Queen's butlers.

I am grateful to you for pointing out this error of mine, as I've used "due to" and "because of" interchangeably up to this point

I only learned they didn't mean the same thing about a year ago. I'm not obsessed with the quality of my English, it's not my mother tongue & nobody gives a crap about grammar & spelling anymore anyway except freaks like you & @GenesAndEnvironment

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

I only learned they didn't mean the same thing about a year ago. I'm not obsessed with the quality of my English, it's not my mother tongue & nobody gives a crap about grammar & spelling anymore anyway except freaks like you & @GenesAndEnvironment

i dont care that much bout it lol

 

[Deleted member 8579]

That's frightening.

Especially considering how much rubbish I still post anyway.

90 % of native English speakers have worse English skills than you.

Comparison with the majority is indicative of low personal standards.

You probably sound (& dress & act) like one of the Queen's butlers.

You have such a ridiculous mental image of me. Anyway, please refrain from mentioning me in the same sentence as that old hag.

nobody gives a crap about grammar & spelling anymore anyway

The harbinger of the collapse of Western civilisation.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Comparison with the majority is indicative of low personal standards.

so true i am agree!.

 

[odradek]

I'd tend to agree with OP. However I'd extend those unrealistic views and expectations to society holistically. Especially in so-called Western societies.

 

[motel rooms]

Comparison with the majority is indicative of low personal standards.

No aspirations, no frustrations.

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You have such a ridiculous mental image of me.

The harbinger of the collapse of Western civilisation.

 

[Apricity]

@hotelbeneathground smuggle me into Europe, I hate it here.
I don't have any money, but I'm sure we can work out an alternate form of compensation.

 

[motel rooms]

we can work out an alternate form of compensation.

We sure can.

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[Apricity]

We sure can.

Scream? No. You'd take one look into my eyes and melt.

 

[ForeverLonely82]

I just want friends to talk to and have sex once in while, even though often would be nice. I don't think my expectations are unrealistic. However IMO due to social media BS. Loneliness is much stronger than it's ever been.