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FuneralMarch

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I don't really care about having a peaceful death. My question isn't if it's painless, but if it would be quick. I live in the United States so buying a gun is like buying a pack of gum for the most part (considering I don't have a criminal record nor a mental illness record besides mild autism). My plan is to go deep in the West Virginia wilderness and setup a tent, maybe eat a good last meal, and drink an entire bottle of vodka and then just stick a knife in my neck and put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger aiming upwards. I feel like this is a 100% guaranteed method since I'd be in such a remote location that no one would even hear the gunshot.
 
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Backwood_tilt

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Dec 27, 2019
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Alcohol introduces risk at a certain point, especially with such a gruesome method.

Just a shotgun to the head should be sufficient, and would be very quick.
 
HorribleFeelings1

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Its a hard knock life
Jan 18, 2020
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.I am no professional but I have done a lot of research on suicide methods such as cutting yourself and shooting yourself. For one, you would have to endure the pain of fully stabbing your neck, your neck is huge nerve cluster so it can be very painful and hard to begin with, that's why many people cut their necks for suicide. Second, shooting yourself with the right handgun, with an adequate caliber should do the trick. However be mindful that you need to shoot yourself the right way. There is the chance of surviving but will have more problems that will make you regret not dying and make you suffer 10x more. Drinking alcohol does in fact numb the pain so good luck! When do you plan?
 
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ThatIsTheQuestion

ThatIsTheQuestion

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Aug 4, 2019
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I think you'd find it impossible to shoot yourself with a knife sticking out of your neck. You'd certainly increase the chances that you'd misfire and leave yourself a vegetable. Even "clean" gunshots can go wrong. And if you do survive the bullet, you'll still have a knife sticking out of your neck. The fact that it all seems fast doesn't mean it really would be. If nothing else, time stretches out when you're in pain -- and it really stretches out when you're in terrible pain. Almost no one would recommend cutting or stabbing as a way to ctb.
 
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Finis Autem Spero

Finis Autem Spero

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I think you'd find it impossible to shoot yourself with a knife sticking out of your neck. You'd certainly increase the chances that you'd misfire and leave yourself a vegetable. Even "clean" gunshots can go wrong. And if you do survive the bullet, you'll still have a knife sticking out of your neck. The fact that it all seems fast doesn't mean it really would be. If nothing else, time stretches out when you're in pain -- and it really stretches out when you're in terrible pain. Almost no one would recommend cutting or stabbing as a way to ctb.

Seconded. Personally I think both is a bit overkill (heh heh). The only reason I considered the knife in the throat was because I don't have access to a gun. If I could get a decent shotgun, then that would be my preferred way to ctb. That or opiate OD.
 
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MsMaudlin

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I think the gun would be enough if you looked into where it had to be aimed.
Peace and love ❤
 
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Starrywaters

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The body's natural inclination would be to clutch the neck and essentially 'stop' the blood flow (often seen in movies and TV shows when somebody gets their throat cut). It's a very sudden loss of blood should you hit the right artery and that sudden volume loss is likely to make your blood pressure fall through the floor and you will fall to the floor also.

Not to mention, should you hit the artery you intend to holding a gun with blood soaked hands effectively and with some kind of considered aim may be challenging. You may have to complete these actions in a matter of a few minutes at most and the sudden panic your body will likely fall into could make all the difference in successfully ctb if this is what you decide to do.

As others have said, this might be a touch of 'overkill'. I understand the desire to be effective and as certain as you can be but it may be worth considering the scenario from many sides.

As always, I am not here to encourage you to decide to do something or not. I am only here to provide hopefully a considered and rational response to your posting. This website has great resources both for discussion and recovery.
 
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Fragile

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don't underestimate how hard the neck is and how much does alcohol affects you, this just seems like a very bad idea overall.

alcohol it may give you the final push to overcome your survival instinct, but it will also cripple a lot of your motor skills, even if you manage to stab your neck then i'm sure that you wont be able to shoot yourself because of the pain and the body reaction to it, and if you do then you increase the chances of failing and waking up in a hospital with half of your face destroyed.

there are plenty of methods that will work better and with much less risk, specially if you are in a remote location, check the resource thread or just look around the forum, you will find one that suits you better.
 
TAW122

TAW122

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Agreed with everyone on this thread. If you are considering this method, I would just skip the neck stabbing because that only causes more pain and is more gruesome. Also, as far as alcohol just enough to override SI but not enough to be intoxicated. This way you would be able to follow through more easily and also make sure you aim correctly, NEVER below the chin as that would result in a high chance of survival and lots of damage (very like a vegetable).
 
BPD Barbie

BPD Barbie

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Dec 1, 2019
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Yeah for sure just echoing everyone else at this point, do one, not both. I doubt you'd even be able to do both anyway, one of those methods if done correctly would suffice. I know you said you don't care about painless methods but why make yourself suffer more doing both or even trying to.
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
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Please don't put the gun in your mouth. That's really not the ideal way to shoot one self. You seem to be going for maximum violent suicide. Honestly I think cutting correctly or shooting correctly alone would work better than a wild combo.
 
voyager

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Don't you dare go hollow...
Nov 25, 2019
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I see where you're coming from, I too like combo methods. And yes, it's possible to cut one's own throat, but as the others have mentioned no one can say how it affects one afterwards. It's not simple to do, it's unpredictable depending on where you cut and it's hard to tell how much freedom of action remains.

Thus, a better method is probably a shotgun to the mouth aimed towards the center between one's ears. Of course, if you're completely paranoid like me and afraid of a one in a million partial misfire, you might opt for a decent handgun, shoot yourself the same way, but fall into a noose on a short drop. I honestly can't see that not working. You could even add a pool of water, a swamp or crocodile pit below if you're completly mad.
 
AlreadyGone

AlreadyGone

Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
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If you stab yourself in the neck, you do not know how you will feel. You will most likely be too disoriented to place the gun in the proper spot and pull the trigger. You may even begin panicking after stabbing yourself or begin to lose consciousness.

You should select one method and do it well.
 
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ansuperhero

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Jan 22, 2020
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I believe that the most deadly methods of shooting oneself are to the roof of the mouth or behind the ear. Do not shoot your temple region because people have survived that before. In fact, I recall a case of a person who shot themselves in the temple but destroyed their vision instead. It would only make sense to do the latter (shooting behind the ear) if the handgun was really large. The goal would be to destroy the back half of the brain.
 
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k75

k75

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Jun 27, 2019
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I know you said you don't care if it hurts, but you will very much care in the moment.

You're going to be disoriented because of the alcohol. Very not good, because both methods require some precise aiming.

You have to stab quickly, hard, and in the right place. Probably blind, unless you want to look in a mirror and further trigger your SI.

You can't just leave the knife in your neck, or you won't bleed. It'll plug the wound. But if you hit an artery, blood will spray and make things so messy. Which will make the rest harder.

You're also going to have to resist the instinct to grab the wound and panic. Not likely. You might pass out.

Blood is slippery. You'll probably have blood on your hands. Maybe even cuts if your hand slid down the knife. Your gun might slip. You'll be even more unfocused and disoriented because of the pain and blood loss. It's going to be really hard to aim and stay on task.

Combining methods just isn't good. It actually increases the chance of failure, as a lot more can go wrong. Plus, if you manage to stab enough to be effective, you won't need the gun anyway. It's all super overkill.

Just pick one method, research, and do it well.
 
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S1mpleme

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Dec 27, 2019
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I don't really care about having a peaceful death. My question isn't if it's painless, but if it would be quick. I live in the United States so buying a gun is like buying a pack of gum for the most part (considering I don't have a criminal record nor a mental illness record besides mild autism). My plan is to go deep in the West Virginia wilderness and setup a tent, maybe eat a good last meal, and drink an entire bottle of vodka and then just stick a knife in my neck and put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger aiming upwards. I feel like this is a 100% guaranteed method since I'd be in such a remote location that no one would even hear the gunshot.
Sounds too complicated and not that quick as you might want.
 
AlreadyGone

AlreadyGone

Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
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I know you said you don't care if it hurts, but you will very much care in the moment.

You're going to be disoriented because of the alcohol. Very not good, because both methods require some precise aiming.

You have to stab quickly, hard, and in the right place. Probably blind, unless you want to look in a mirror and further trigger your SI.

You can't just leave the knife in your neck, or you won't bleed. It'll plug the wound. But if you hit an artery, blood will spray and make things so messy. Which will make the rest harder.

You're also going to have to resist the instinct to grab the wound and panic. Not likely. You might pass out.

Blood is slippery. You'll probably have blood on your hands. Maybe even cuts if your hand slid down the knife. Your gun might slip. You'll be even more unfocused and disoriented because of the pain and blood loss. It's going to be really hard to aim and stay on task.

Combining methods just isn't good. It actually increases the chance of failure, as a lot more can go wrong. Plus, if you manage to stab enough to be effective, you won't need the gun anyway. It's all super overkill.

Just pick one method, research, and do it well.

This is exactly why I wish people would think things through before coming up with impractical methods.
 

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