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sohopelessandempty

sohopelessandempty

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I know this probably will sound insanely stupid but think about it, because of the carbon dioxide wouldn't this be able to kill? I think so, but I have doubts because if it was that easy how come I've never seen this mentioned as a popular method here?
 
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No, your body would recognize the lack of oxygen and have a panic response and you would rip the bag off. Even with the proper inert gas method, some people still rip the bag off in their sleep. But the reason for the gas is to trick your body into thinking you're still breathing. If there's nothing to breathe in, you will not be able to successfully suffocate yourself. Hence the use of gases like helium or nitrogen.
 
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sohopelessandempty

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No, your body would recognize the lack of oxygen and have a panic response and you would rip the bag off. Even with the proper inert gas method, some people still rip the bag off in their sleep. But the reason for the gas is to trick your body into thinking you're still breathing. If there's nothing to breathe in, you will not be able to successfully suffocate yourself. Hence the use of gases like helium or nitrogen.
What if I take a sleeping pill beforehand, so I'm already gonna fall asleep soon anyway and then I put the bag over my head???
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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It has been done while people are wide awake. It's not listed here because it's brutal and only used when individuals are absolutely desperate and have no other options.
 
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EmptyBottle

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What if I take a sleeping pill beforehand, so I'm already gonna fall asleep soon anyway and then I put the bag over my head???
not sure if the sleeping pill would work fast enough, idk how fast sleeping pills work if crushed. Even if u lose consciousness before panic sets in, random movements could dislodge the bag.
 
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Goyasan

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I wouldn't do it. It's not worth it, and even with a pill, you don't know how your body will react unless you're using a very strong substance.
 
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nobodycaresaboutme

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Lostallhope saids that the success rate of plastic bag over head is 23.0%. And it also implies that this method is not peaceful contrary to the expectation. This will end up in unnecessary pain and no desirable outcome. I understand you're feeling like you've run out of options, but I would advise against it.
 
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sohopelessandempty

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not sure if the sleeping pill would work fast enough, idk how fast sleeping pills work if crushed. Even if u lose consciousness before panic sets in, random movements could dislodge the bag.
I'm not gonna crush it lol, like what if I take it normally, wait for it to kick in, then put the bag over my head and fall asleep???
Lostallhope saids that the success rate of plastic bag over head is 23.0%. And it also implies that this method is not peaceful contrary to the expectation. This will end up in unnecessary pain and no desirable outcome. I understand you're feeling like you've run out of options, but I would advise against it.
Yikes, alright you've convinced me not to do it. I wish ctbing wasn't so difficult.
It has been done while people are wide awake. It's not listed here because it's brutal and only used when individuals are absolutely desperate and have no other options.
Really? I'd think the carbon dioxide would make someone pass out instead of some excruciating pain or something.
 
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Really? I'd think the carbon dioxide would make someone pass out instead of some excruciating pain or something.
What makes you think that the carbon dioxide is what makes the person pass out and/or kill them? I just want to know why and not to be rude so that's why I am saying it, have you heard of lack of oxygen? Carbon dioxide is the cause of the feeling of suffocation.
 
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EmptyBottle

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I'm not gonna crush it lol, like what if I take it normally, wait for it to kick in, then put the bag over my head and fall asleep???
Assuming the pill takes over 8 mins to work, that's 8+ mins awake within the bag, and panic can set in before those 8 mins pass.
 
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What makes you think that the carbon dioxide is what makes the person pass out and/or kill them? I just want to know why and not to be rude so that's why I am saying it, have you heard of lack of oxygen? Carbon dioxide is the cause of the feeling of suffocation.
Yeah I'm finding that puzzling, too.
 
EmptyBottle

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Yeah I'm finding that puzzling, too.
at high enough doses, yes... but the levels needed for losing consciousness are so high that the low, panic-causing levels will take ages to reach that concentration (and the O2 will likely be depleted first, but inbetween it's very painful)
 
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sohopelessandempty

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What makes you think that the carbon dioxide is what makes the person pass out and/or kill them? I just want to know why and not to be rude so that's why I am saying it, have you heard of lack of oxygen? Carbon dioxide is the cause of the feeling of suffocation.
I typed the original post when I was desperate and overwhelmed sorry. I was really hoping this would work but it was false hope. But besides that, I thought this because I got this mixed up with carbon monoxide(poisoning) and I heard that can kill people, but it's not painful it just makes them sleepy. Anyways sorry again.
Yeah I'm finding that puzzling, too.
(Copy pasted reply to someone else)I typed the original post when I was desperate and overwhelmed sorry. I was really hoping this would work but it was false hope. But besides that, I thought this because I got this mixed up with carbon monoxide(poisoning) and I heard that can kill people, but it's not painful it just makes them sleepy. Anyways sorry again.
at high enough doses, yes... but the levels needed for losing consciousness are so high that the low, panic-causing levels will take ages to reach that concentration (and the O2 will likely be depleted first, but inbetween it's very painful)
What else should I do then??? I don't want something painful but everywhere I turn, there's always some risk of pain.
Assuming the pill takes over 8 mins to work, that's 8+ mins awake within the bag, and panic can set in before those 8 mins pass.
Hey, I feel stupid now after reading all these replies haha so nevermind, I'm aware now this is a dumb idea. But to clarify, I don't mean the bag is on my head the whole time. I take the pill, wait for it to kick in, and THEN I put the bag on. But it's pointless anyway, I know that now.
I wouldn't do it. It's not worth it, and even with a pill, you don't know how your body will react unless you're using a very strong substance.
What should I do then?? I can't find a good method, they all have some cons that I'm scared of.
 
Intoxicated

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No, your body would recognize the lack of oxygen and have a panic response and you would rip the bag off.
The so called "panic response" is mostly caused by the excess of carbon dioxide, the contribution of the lack of oxygen is minor.
Even with the proper inert gas method, some people still rip the bag off in their sleep.
That sounds like a tale.
But the reason for the gas is to trick your body into thinking you're still breathing.
The primary objective of using an inert gas is to avoid unpleasant CO2 buildup during the period before loss of consciousness, the secondary objective (which inherently helps to achieve the primary objective) is to speed up loss of consciousness.
If there's nothing to breathe in, you will not be able to successfully suffocate yourself.
"Nothing to breathe in" would rather describe a complete lack of respiration. When (re)breathing a gaseous mixture from a sealed plastic bag, you always have something to breathe in.
Lostallhope saids that the success rate of plastic bag over head is 23.0%.
That table is just a bunch of random numbers. 1.7 minutes to death from a headshot with a shotgun is a complete BS. Perhaps, even such unreliable sources as ChatGPT could give you more realistic data on CTB methods.
Really? I'd think the carbon dioxide would make someone pass out instead of some excruciating pain or something.
Carbon dioxide can make you pass out quickly (in about half a minute or less) if you inhale it at a concentration of 30% or above. Exhalation into a plastic bag would produce concentrations of this gas that are high enough only to cause significant discomfort for minutes, but insufficient for quick loss of consciousness (in a matter of seconds). Eventually this excess of CO2 can contribute to making you unconscious along with oxygen deprivation.

The perceived discomfort from hypercapnia is not necessarily "pain" in the literal meaning of this word, but it maybe very unpleasant - to the point when it becomes hardly bearable or unbearable depending on your level of tolerance.
 
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nobodycaresaboutme

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That table is just a bunch of random numbers. 1.7 minutes to death from a headshot with a shotgun is a complete BS. Perhaps, even such unreliable sources as ChatGPT could give you more realistic data on CTB methods.
While I also don't think shotgun CTB takes 1.7 minutes, it does not mean that the entire table is wrong. The table is probably backed up by the "Dimensions of suicide: perceptions of lethality, time, and agony" (though it's a paid article and I can't read it). If either this study or a random remark by a random guy on the internet is bullshit, it's most likely the latter.
 
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While I also don't think shotgun CTB takes 1.7 minutes, it does not mean that the entire table is wrong. The table is probably backed up by the "Dimensions of suicide: perceptions of lethality, time, and agony" (though it's a paid article and I can't read it). If either this study or a random remark by a random guy on the internet is bullshit, it's most likely the latter.
Anyone who has some critical thinking and at least a little understanding of how CTB methods work can tell you with absolute certainty that the mentioned table has little to no relation to real science (despite possible publication on an authoritative website) and little to no usefulness for those who are planning their own suicide.

First of all, the "methods" presented there are way too vaguely defined. For instance, what is "Plastic bag over head"? There is a plenty of options (or submethods) with use of plastic bags that differ from each other by at least one parameter:

- bag size: small, medium, or large bag;

- use of sedative drugs:
  • none,
  • benzodiazepines (e.g., nordiazepam),
  • opioids,
  • other;
- use of gas inside the bag:
  • plain air,
  • toxic or anesthetic vapors (e.g., benzene, acetone, toluene, chloroform, ether, ethyl chloride),
  • simple asphyxiant (e.g., nitrogen, propane-butane),
  • chemical/systemic asphyxiants (e.g., carbon dioxide, hydrogen sulfide);
- type of securing around the neck:
  • untied/unsecured,
  • tied/secured.
The lethality, time to LOC, time to death, peak and overall distress can vary in wide ranges depending on the chosen parameters. Any average statistical data on "plastic bag over head" (even if it's accurate) would not give you an adequate estimation for your particularly chosen submethod that determines the specific conditions.

Time to death in 7 minutes from plastic bag suffocation (as suggested in the table) seems rather small for an average use of plastic bag for CTB. For example, these two old women died in more than 8 and 11 minutes from breathing helium


Rebreathing plain air without use of any toxic substances would likely take much longer than 7 minutes before death happens. This could be a threshold for some irreversible damage though.

As for agony ranking, what is "The amount of pain and discomfort you would expect from the use of the particular method"? Is this the intensity of immediate discomfort or some total amount of accumulated discomfort over the whole period of experiencing unpleasant perceptions? This is a very important distinction: experiencing acute pain for 10 seconds is much better than experiencing acute pain of the same intensity for 10 minutes, which, in turn, is much better than experiencing such acute pain for 10 hours or for days.

If by "Agony" they mean discomfort intensity, then ranking electrocution below drowning on the scale of discomfort is just an utter BS. I have experienced electrical shock, thermal and chemical burns of various degrees. Electricity delivered the strongest acute pain I ever had. I can bet that any drowning-induced discomfort wouldn't worth even 1/10 part of that immense pain I had from the discharges.

"Shotgun to head" actually causes instant death, such that your brain won't even have time to process pain. Its rank on the Agony scale should be zero in any possible interpretation, with exception for cases of misfire.

As for accumulated discomfort, there are methods that would leave you in excruciating pain for hours or days, so it's rather hard to tell what 100 of 100 points on that scale could mean, since suffering can be prolonged for indefinite time. Most of the mentioned methods cause unconsciousness too quickly to deserve their high agony ranks in that table if they are interpreted as amounts of accumulated discomfort.
 
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