Will N ever be available again?

[mind3de]

Do you think N will ever be available again?

 

[sadalways]

I highly doubt it. SN is already not extremely easy to get a hold of. I mean it's not hard either but i feel like even that will get regulated more and more. Would be a miracle though, lmao.

 

[mind3de]

I regret not ordering a bottle when I even had the Bitcoins for it. :(

 

[wanttobelieve65]

I'm assuming going into the specifics of where you can obtain it is discouraged here but surely it's still fairly easy to get a hold of it if you're willing to travel?

 

[Peter Skellern]

I'm assuming going into the specifics of where you can obtain it is discouraged here but surely it's still fairly easy to get a hold of it if you're willing to travel?

You fancy doffing your Indiana Jones hat and jetting off to Bolivia do you? Good luck with that.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

No. It's getting increasingly hard to get in any country, and the last person who sold it is now facing 60 years in prison.

 

[wanttobelieve65]

You fancy doffing your Indiana Jones hat and jetting off to Bolivia do you? Good luck with that

What are you on about? There's nothing 'Indiana Jones' about hopping on a flight and visiting a foreign country. We're not in the 1600s mate.

 

[mind3de]

No. It's getting increasingly hard to get in any country, and the last person who sold it is now facing 60 years in prison.

Where did you read that?

 

[Peter Skellern]

What are you on about? There's nothing 'Indiana Jones' about hopping on a flight and visiting a foreign country. We're not in the 1600s mate.

I wouldn't particularly say Bolivia is the safest place in the World to go looking based on this from my Country's Foreign Office Website....

"Tourists, especially those travelling alone, are at some risk of 'express kidnapping' in Bolivia. These are opportunistic abductions aimed at extracting cash from the victim and/or their family. Victims may be held hostage for up to several days or even weeks while criminals use stolen bank or credit cards."

Indeed, the UK FCDO advises against all but essential travel to Bolivia.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Where did you read that?

https://nypost.com/2024/06/01/us-ne...ng-suicide-drug-after-some-buyers-found-dead/

 

[wanttobelieve65]

I wouldn't particularly say Bolivia is the safest place in the World based on this from my Country's Foreign Office Website....

"Tourists, especially those travelling alone, are at some risk of 'express kidnapping' in Bolivia. These are opportunistic abductions aimed at extracting cash from the victim and/or their family. Victims may be held hostage for up to several days or even weeks while criminals use stolen bank or credit cards."

Bolivia isn't the only place in South America where N can be obtained. Obviously these countries are rife with poverty and crime but they also have modern tourism sectors which are fairly insulated from the general mayhem. Affluent Americans and brits often visit resorts in Jamaica despite it having the highest murder rate in the world (if not the highest it's certainly up there). Presumably you would be arriving in the airport and getting an uber to your hotel before getting another uber (or walking depending on distance) to the commercial district where N is being sold. Geriatric women have made these trips with virtually no difficulty. You do realise plenty of people visit second/third world countries and don't end up dead? Common sense goes a long way.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Yep there's Peru but seemingly the Peruvian authorities are cracking down on suchlike now. And affluent Brits visiting Jamacia typically never leave their beach resort as they know tourists have been killed for their trainees there when they venture off-piste.

Do you think the UK authorities make these statements up for the fun of it OR do you perhaps think they know from experience what they're taking about and perhaps you PRESUMABLY don't? Are you seriously trying to suggest Bolivia isn't a fukcing dangerous place to visit - even more so wandering around speculatively looking for N?

 

[wanttobelieve65]

Yep there's Peru but seemingly the Peruvian authorities are cracking down on suchlike now. And affluent Brits visiting Jamacia typically never leave their beach resort as they know tourists have been killed for their trainees there when they venture off-piste.

Do you think the UK authorities make these statements for the fun of it OR do you perhaps think they know from experience what they're taking about and perhaps you PRESUMABLY don't?

Yes the point I'm making is that beyond your relatively brief visit to a commercial district, you don't have to linger around dodgy areas. If you just stick to the more pedestrian areas and don't hang about for long then I imagine your risk of getting kidnapped isn't particularly greater than your risk of getting stabbed or robbed in 'first world' cities such as New York and London etc. You can just uber everywhere, very affordable in these countries. I don't have a crystal ball and don't claim to be invincible so I'm not going to say that there is 0% chance of something untoward happening to you but plenty of people visit South America and return unscathed.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Here's what the Aussies said re Bolivia.. "Exercise an extreme degree of caution in Bolivia due to the threat of violent crime and the risk of civil unrest."

You talked about using "common sense". The common sense thing would be to acually listen to all the aforementioned advice and not go.

However, are you going then?

 

[wanttobelieve65]

Heres what the Aussies said re Bolivia.. "Exercise an extreme degree of caution in Bolivia due to the threat of violent crime and the risk of civil unrest."

You talked about using "common sense". The common sense thing would be to acually listen to all the aforementioned advice and not go.

However, are you going then?

The Peaceful Pill Handbook updated in January 2025 lists Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Columbia as potential sources of OTC N. The first testimonial pertaining to its purchase is from an 83 year old. Wandering around a major city in the US/UK in 2025 is probably about as dangerous as quickly getting an uber to a veterinary store and immediately ubering back to your hotel once the N has been purchased. The former may be more dangerous depending on the time of day.

Yes, I plan on trying to acquire N this year unless certains aspects of my life improve dramatically. As you are incredibly risk-averse I'm not sure if you will pursue any method discussed on this website. Which is a good thing ultimately.

 

[Peter Skellern]

The Peaceful Pill Handbook updated in January 2025 lists Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and Columbia as potential sources of OTC N. The first testimonial pertaining to its purchase is from an 83 year old. Wandering around a major city in the US/UK in 2025 is probably about as dangerous as quickly getting an uber to a veterinary store and immediately ubering back to your hotel once the N has been purchased. The former may be more dangerous depending on the time of day.

Yes, I plan on trying to acquire N this year unless certains aspects of my life improve dramatically. As you are incredibly risk-averse I'm not sure if you will pursue any method discussed on this website. Which is a good thing ultimately.

Mexico is apparently tightening up. As is Peru. I'm not sure about the others. You may indeed have some success. I would however be dubious as regards trusting the PPH's opinion. It can be very hit and miss as a publication in terms of advice.

And if you actually look at my posts on here you'll find I'm anything but risk adverse.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

All that travel to get N is well and good, if you want to die in a foreign country and have no issues doing so. Good luck trying to bring it back to your home country, though.

 

[mind3de]

I wonder how peaceful SN is? I am scared it's a painful death. N sounds so much better.

 

[Eudaimonic]

I'm assuming going into the specifics of where you can obtain it is discouraged here but surely it's still fairly easy to get a hold of it if you're willing to travel?

I don't think so tbh https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/where-to-buy-n-in-peru-2024.180986/#post-2695055

I wonder how peaceful SN is? I am scared it's a painful death. N sounds so much better.

It's variable

 

[wanttobelieve65]

All that travel to get N is well and good, if you want to die in a foreign country and have no issues doing so. Good luck trying to bring it back to your home country, though.

Death is death regardless of where it takes place

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Death is death regardless of where it takes place

Death may be death, but for some of us, it's important where our remains ultimately end up, even if all they become after death is decaying flesh and bone. Even in nothingness, I want my remains near to my family. Dying in another country just opens up huge logistical nightmares and expense.

 

[Alitaaqua6781]

Happy to report have had zero issues travelling in Peru or Bolivia even with the current travel advisories. I'm off to two neighbouring countries next and I expect them to be equally fine. If you have some common sense and are mindful of your surroundings honestly I've felt safer here than I have in parts of the US and Europe. This is my actual experience right now as a female on my own not conjecture based on peoples own thoughts.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Happy to report have had zero issues travelling in Peru or Bolivia even with the current travel advisories. I'm off to two neighbouring countries next and I expect them to be equally fine. If you have some common sense and are mindful of your surroundings honestly I've felt safer here than I have in parts of the US and Europe. This is my actual experience right now as a female on my own not conjecture based on peoples own thoughts.

It isn't "conjecture" it's actual travel advice from our own Govts - you said it yourself. Current Travel Advisories.

Death may be death, but for some of us, it's important where our remains ultimately end up, even if all they become after death is decaying flesh and bone. Even in nothingness, I want my remains near to my family. Dying in another country just opens up huge logistical nightmares and expense.

The cost to repatriate a body from a South America Country to the UK can range from £12,000 to £20,000 (Source UK Foreign Office).

 

[wanttobelieve65]

It isn't "conjecture" it's actual travel advice from our own Govts - you said it yourself. Current Travel Advisories.

The cost to repatriate a body from a South America Country to the UK can range from £12,000 to £20,000 (Source UK Foreign Office).

Here is a video of a Brit travelling alone through Iran after being told by everyone that he would be taking his life into his hands.

 

[Peter Skellern]

As the old saying goes "there's one in every village".

Back in the real world "The Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office advises against all travel to Iran. British and British-Iranian dual nationals are at significant risk of arrest, questioning or detention. Having a British passport or connections to the UK can be reason enough for the Iranian authorities to detain and imprison you."

Indeed just very recently a British couple in their 50's Craig and Lindsay Foreman ("on the trip of a lifetime") were arrested and detained in the notorious Iranian Evin Prison where all kinds of abuse and torture goes on.

So as examples go you picked a cracker there lol.

 

[roommate]

As the old saying goes "there's one in every village".

Back in the real world "The Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office advises against all travel to Iran. British and British-Iranian dual nationals are at significant risk of arrest, questioning or detention. Having a British passport or connections to the UK can be reason enough for the Iranian authorities to detain and imprison you."

Indeed just very recently a British couple in their 50's Craig and Lindsay Foreman ("on the trip of a lifetime") were arrested and detained in the notorious Iranian Evin Prison where all kinds of abuse and torture goes on.

So as examples go you picked a cracker there lol.

Some places in the world are too sick for words!

 

[wanttobelieve65]

As the old saying goes "there's one in every village".

Back in the real world "The Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office advises against all travel to Iran. British and British-Iranian dual nationals are at significant risk of arrest, questioning or detention. Having a British passport or connections to the UK can be reason enough for the Iranian authorities to detain and imprison you."

Indeed just very recently a British couple in their 50's Craig and Lindsay Foreman ("on the trip of a lifetime") were arrested and detained in the notorious Iranian Evin Prison where all kinds of abuse and torture goes on.

So as examples go you picked a cracker there lol.

From what I gather she was conducting interviews across Iran to gather information for some sort of seminar she was hosting or something. If this is true then it was simply naive and doesn't justify their arrest but it's easy to see how Iranian authorities may find this behaviour suspicious, especially given the strained diplomatic relations between the two nations. To reiterate, common sense goes a long way.

The point of that video wasn't to endorse Iran or to suggest that the governments of these nations aren't themselves corrupt and unsympathetic towards foreigners. Nor was it to claim that Iran specifically is a safe place to visit in 2025 for a British citizen. It's to illustrate the fact that plenty of everyday people in these countries are perfectly civil and good-natured and aren't out to extort you at every given opportunity despite how they may be portrayed in our sensationalist media. There are predators everywhere but if you keep your wits about you I don't think visiting these places is the automatic death sentence you're making it out to be.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Now where have I said visiting these places constitutes an "automatic death sentence"? Those are YOUR WORDS.

I've merely said I agree with the official summation that places like Bolivia and Iran are extremely dangerous places for Western tourists to visit in terms of violent crime and/or political unrest (and indeed just because they're British re the latter).

However in the case of Iran, if you're not worried about the risk of terrorism, civil unrest, kidnapping, arbitrary arrest and wrongful detentions (in quite literally hell holes of prisons) I'm sure it's a cracking place for 2 weeks in the sun lol.

 

[Alitaaqua6781]

The travel advisories stated to stay away from small orange zones on the map. Another place was anything near the Colombian border. These advisories are important so people can look at where they plan to go and assess if it's safe for them to do so. In the tourist centers of these cities where the hotels, designer shops and world class restaurants are, is not unsafe. Obviously there is risk there is risk in everything anyone does. I would certainly suggest getting comprehensive travel insurance which I did. Side note it also comes with full coverage for shipping your remains back home if that is ever required. I only know this because it was in the lengthy paper work of my insurance.

I just want to say that comparing Bolivia to Iran seems sad for the people here. They are super welcoming to tourists, and the culture the food it's beautiful. I'm going through 4 or 5 neighbouring countries on my journey and the only one I'm not certain on if I will go to is Columbia. Again I will say not once have I felt unsafe or in danger and this has been the trip of a lifetime. I have shared photos on the telegram group and it's kind of amusing that I'm posting photos of massive malls with LV, Gucci, and every single American chain you can imagine. Ditto with the hotels and beaches and every western type of modern need you can imagine. These are just cities like you would find cities anywhere in the world.