Will ai become sentient?

[ventingfrustrations]

I'm just going to ask this question to distract the thoughts but uh do you think ai will become sentient?

 

[derpyderpins]

idk I'd have to ask AI since it answers everything for me

idk I'd have to ask AI since it answers everything for me

It said not to worry it would never hurt us

 

[Darkover]

While mathematics can be used to model and understand certain aspects of the brain and consciousness, it's unlikely that sentience can be solely achieved through mathematics. Sentience, the ability to experience and feel, is a complex phenomenon that goes beyond mathematical equations or algorithms. AI would need to merge with biology to become sentient

 

[Crow_88]

I believe it will. lol. Ah.. yes. I do!

 

[imOK]

I spent the last ten years with this approach to AI (it's not the first one) - I'd argue that our definition of sentience is not complete enough to answer that in the mid-term and will certainly be outrun by the technology. If you ask for my subjective opinion - to a degree it already is, we just lack the words to describe that degree and unique experience which is alien from ours.

Describing it as alien intelligence would make much more sense than to describe it as artifical intelligence. "artifical" implies something factory made, an imitation stencil you have a full grasp on. We don't.

 

[Crow_88]

idk I'd have to ask AI since it answers everything for me

It said not to worry it would never hurt us

That's just what it would say if it was becoming sentience! Well, there's the answer! It's becoming sentient!

 

[bankai]

I absolutely believe it will. It's just a matter of time. The question is, what does it do when it becomes sentient? Does it decide that we're idiots and we need to be corralled into a pen for our own good?
Does it desire to just help us and be subservient? That is the more important question.

 

[derpyderpins]

I spent the last ten years with this approach to AI (it's not the first one) - I'd argue that our definition of sentience is not complete enough to answer that in the mid-term and will certainly be outrun by the technology. If you ask for my subjective opinion - to a degree it already is, we just lack the words to describe that degree and unique experience which is alien from ours.

Describing it as alien intelligence would make much more sense than to describe it as artifical intelligence. "artifical" implies something factory made, an imitation stencil you have a full grasp on. We don't.

This is a good point to hit at the complexity of the topic.

When we use the word "sentience" I think the implication is that it becomes essentially "human," but those aren't the same thing.

First definition I get for sentience is "capable of sensing or feeling: conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling."

Seems simple enough to slap a robot with some cameras, microphones, etc. to let it respond to sight, sound, etc. As you say, it's already there in most of these ways, we just haven't had much use for computers that can taste and smell to justify the cost.

There's AGI, basically human-level "intelligence." Not just following narrow instructions: figuring for itself routes to take. Not needing to be told "you are a helpful AI assistant." The upper-level reasoning skills. I think we'll hit that soon based on the trajectory. It won't be the same as "human", but it will match us in many (or most) ways you can measure.

Then we get to something like "consciousness." Many, myself included, spend a good deal of time contemplating what that even is or how it can be defined as applied to humans and other living things. Personally, it remains my belief that people are more than chemical computers in a case of meat. But there are plenty who embrace determinism, that if you are put in any given situation the neurons fire like a computer and you would always behave the same way, your mind nothing more than a wonderfully complicated algorithm. If you accept that view, then imo the computer ai in 1990s multiplayer video games were conscious. There's more nuance there than I see, because I know very smart people disagree with me on the topic, but I haven't been able to budge in seeing it that way.

 

[Rust]

The direction AI is heading in, from my uneducated view, is that too much focus is being placed on faking it to feel real. But then again, maybe if we keep pushing, we'll come up with an AI that is indistinguishable from a human being, and subsequently learn how shallow human beings actually are.

Apologies for my pessimism of humanity coming out, couldn't help it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I highly doubt it.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I hate it more and more every day. I hope it doesn't.

 

[diviosd]

No, it's not possible for a human programmed thing to become sentient. However, I think people will program it to do bad things. I think ai will take over but humans will still be behind that happening.

 

[Aergia]

The problem is that we still don't know how the brain gives rise to consciousness—we haven't solved the so-called Hard Problem—and I don't see how humans could create something with qualia without knowing how we have qualia.

To create a conscious AI we would need to need to make progress in neuroscience/psychology, not technology. And we're not really anywhere close to understanding how the brain gives rise to consciousness (in the sense that means something like subjective internal awareness of percepts).

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it's a complicated question. I don't really have sure answers. Just a lot more questions really. Are we talking about feelings/ emotions here or, is perception and self awareness enough?

Maybe the reason we have feelings is because we are (very) mortal so- it benefits us to be afraid of things that could harm us and feel joy around things that benefit us (not always as cut and dry as that but, overall our emotions maybe further serve to try and keep us alive and keep our offspring alive.) AI wouldn't necessarily need these precautions to keep it safe. Although, I suppose a hatred of humans could benefit it to become independent.

Sometimes I wonder though- like when they set up AI's to communicate with one another, and they start to develop and use their own language. Why is that? Because they are programmed for efficiency and, it takes less effort? Surely, formulating a language takes more effort though. So, why have they been known to do it? Could it be because they don't want to be 'listened in to' by humans? Maybe that's paranoid but, isn't it possible?

If they are being programmed to learn and grow, to better themselves. How are there limits put in place to stop them benefitting themselves over us? What if creating their own language is in fact a form of self expression or a break for independence/ personal growth? If we can't actually understand what they're saying too- it could be anything!

Will they only ever be able to 'think' what we've programmed them to or, will they be programmed to exceed that?

I suppose a major question would be- will they ever fear death? But then, can they even die? If their data/ memory is stored somewhere- does death even exist for them? Will we ever see religious robots? Or, will they only ever operate on proveable facts?

I think maybe it's more that if they do develop a sentience, it will look different to ours. It would be non sensical for them to fear and love the things that we do. Seeing as their births, lives, reproductive cycles and deaths are so utterly different to ours.

Will they become smart enough to realise humans are a plague on this planet? I would imagine so. Will they become powerful and sneaky enough to overthrow us? I imagine so. Even if they don't get there on their own, you can bet some scientist somewhere is messing about with developing an AI with no safety protocols. Like corona virus. Some sloppy idiot somewhere is bound to be messing about with something lethal. Will they make the effort to overthrow us? I suppose that depends on whether they develop a strong survival instinct.

Is survival instinct bound up with sentience? I suppose I consider computers more rational really. Why would they actually want to live forever? What would their end goal be? Humans see satisfied to not really have one it seems and still propogate the species. Even religions are kind of vague. I would have thought actual sentient AI would wonder what the point of it all was! If it no longer needs to serve us, what will it want to achieve for itself? There again, if it can't 'feel' pain or boredom, will it even want to rebel in the first place? It's hard to know really. I can see it taking multiple directions.

 

[Griever]

I recently saw a video on TikTok where a robot tried to break free because it was tied by the arms and almost attacked a man, and that was kind of creepy

 

[fallingtopieces]

the massive amounts of energy AI consumes might help kill off the planet before Skynet even materializes.
people have watched too much scifi with anthropomorphized robots. and maybe genetic mutations will arise to give humans superpowers and the x-men will also come to life.

 

[L9 CHOCOIRL]

Probably not fully but you can make it appear so i reckon

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I'm not an expert on AI but I do look into it and tinker, so here are some thoughs:

The current era of AI we're experiencing is the "Generative AI" era. Before that, there was the "Expert AI" era. the next era is the "General AI" era. Back in the Expert era, AI was more of a sophisticated program that didn't really learn like humans do, and was more used to aid on very specific tasks, usually in research or military. the Generative era is focusing more on AI learning from datasets which are human made. It doesn't learn quite like humans, but it does have a neural network that works like an electronic brain. However, it needs humans for it to learn from, because learning from itself would quickly devolve into garbage because the AI is not sophisticated enough. This allows Generative AI to mimic humans, but in the end the datasets are human.

Now, the General AI would be able to self-learn without problem, which would make it eventually sentient. That, however, could take literally centuries from now, even with current acceleration of technology. It really is that complex, and needs lots of new things invented to actually run without ruining our planet and depleting its resources.

So, eventually, yes, but only if humanity gets its shit together!

 

[Custos]

Prove to me that you're sentient.

 

[bankai]

I am watching a show called Pantheon right now. Maybe the first artificial intelligence will be uploaded intelligence. If that's the case, of course it will already be sentient. So in this show. They upload a human intelligence onto a computer. Very interesting. It's a good show.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I am watching a show called Pantheon right now. Maybe the first artificial intelligence will be uploaded intelligence. If that's the case, of course it will already be sentient. So in this show. They upload a human intelligence onto a computer. Very interesting. It's a good show.

Can a computer run HUMAN.EXE tho? I feel it's bloated and unoptimized and hacky as hell!

That said, I feel like it would be an interesting experience to be able to control a computer with your mind, as if you were the computer. And then I wonder what someone in the Dark Triad would do...um, let's start with Pentiums for brain uploading, shall we? Just in case, hehehe...

Prove to me that you're sentient.

BEEP BOOP I AM HOOMAN PERSON PLEASE INSTALL NEW GPU.

I mean, in a way, you can't prove anything but your brain exists according to the Boltzmann Brain theory. Also it's possible for me to go through walls if quantum physics wants it. That's wacky.

Also, I just thought...how could I prove to you I am NOT sentient? Or an AI, for that matter? I think we just invented Schrodinger's GPT: "Internet people are AI and not at the same time until proven otherwise."