Why the fixation on this forum with SN and other complicated methods?

[Worthless loser]

Why not a gun? Quick, painless if done correctly, not as convoluted and prone to failure as other methods discussed.

 

[Ringoooooo]

Most of us don't have access to guns.

SN isn't too complicated. Just have to make sure it's over 96% purity and gather the ingredients for stat dose

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Access, fear, personal preference.

For many, SN is the most accessible and least painless method that can come close to assuring success, as well as the least amount of damage if they survive.

Many would go for partial hanging if the placement of their cartoids allowed for it. If mine weren't hiding, I'd already be gone.

What other complicated methods are you referring to? If CO were less complicated, I'd go for that over SN. If I couldn't get SN, I'd probably consider the effort but would have a lot of worry about success and potential suffering after.

Also, I'm guessing you're of the male persuasion. Men are far more likely to use guns or other more physically violent methods, women more likely to OD, therefore there are more males who successfully ctb.

Ultimately, the answer to your question is within. Ask, and your own estrogen will softly whisper it to you, as long as you don't scare it by waving around guns. :)

 

[k75]

SN isn't complicated. It's popular because it's legal, cheap, non-violent, and easy to buy.

Not everyone wants their brains splattered on a wall, even if it is fast.

 

[Melkus2020]

I'm not an option for me. I'm too kooky looking to get approved for a FFL. Too much stigma in getting a gun in where I live.

 

[HopeDiesLast]

Life's been brutal. I'd prefer my death to be somewhat peaceful.

 

[Shinbu]

I don't have a gun, and I don't like the method. I live with others, and I don't want them to see my bloodied corpse. SN isn't that complicated to me. A gun is complicated. You need good aim, and you need to shoot in the right place for a instant death.

 

[HelensNepenthe]

If you have a challenge of reading and following instructions, perhaps ending your life at this point time is not exclusively the only challenge you're facing. While this reply of mine sounds rude, instructions for SN are very clear plus precise. Instructions on ending your life with sound mind requires attention to detail. We have an endless amount of resources on this forum and it's an open platform for constructive criticism.

Why not a gun? Quick, painless if done correctly, not as convoluted and prone to failure as other methods discussed.

The same applies with other methods on this forum that are deemed painless. PPH has their own conducted methodologies with inorganic salts, drugs, and hypoxia that rate how painful/painless they are.

 

[blood orange]

Point that hasn't been brought up yet; gun leaves a bloody mess.

I think a lot if us don't want to leave something like that behind.

 

[Quarky00]

"Method Wars!" -- Round 3,920,349



*too tired to make popcorn*

 

[Melkus2020]

Also who the heck can afford a gun with ammo. I'm way too broke. I need more affordable options. I don't want to deal with interrogations about why I need a gun with feds and my family. And it's just way too much of a hassle to get.

 

[Quarky00]

Oh look at all that SN crowd , they smell blood


*doing the running commentary*


The gunner is circled -- what a hit job !

SSTV -- Must CTB .

|Sponsored by Dignitas|​

 

[nightflight]

The failure rate with guns is actually appallingly high.

 

[Deathbydemo]

Guns are pretty much impossible to obtain here for regular Joe's like me. SN is the most peaceful method I've come across if done correctly and has a lot of appeal for me. My end goal is peace... leave peacefully and find eternal peace in whatever comes next.

 

[Melkus2020]

The right gun for the job as they say. I don't have a clue. If you do have a shot gun or a high power hand or rifle then kudos.

 

[HadEnough1974]

Oh look at all that SN crowd , they smell blood


*doing the running commentary*


The gunner is circled -- what a hit job !

SSTV -- Must CTB .

|Sponsored by Dignitas|​

I'm loving it!! Hey I want some popcorn too!

 

[Ghost2211]

If you mess up with a gun you could be much worse off than you are now. If you mess up with SN you get an iv and recover.

 

[aramir]

most people outside of the US can't get a gun so easily , it might as well be a fantasy in some countries and it is a real possibility that you would sill fail with a gun and end up with horrible damage ; besides SN is actually really simple , all you have to do is order the ingredients and ingest them in the correct order and time.

 

[Anon2662]

Can't get guns in the uk easily at all and if getting one illegally and caught before ctb it's prison time ha! Plus wouldn't want my family to think of me going out like that or for whoever finds me to see that.
That being said, as a young teenager I often fantasised about someone shooting me in the back of the head while I was sleeping. Wouldn't know a thing about it!

 

[Quarky00]

The failure rate with guns is actually appallingly high.

Interesting. Did not know that . Thanks

Look up gun stats. The success rate is scarily low. There's way too many stories of people twitching a tiny tiny bit at the last minute and blowing their face off or blowing out a chunk of brain but surviving. You'd be surprised by what people can live through, even if it takes a while to be found. Even with lethal gunshots, a lot of em are very very very very far from quick or painless.

Plus I know lots of people aren't bothered by this and maybe you also wouldn't be, but seeing a gun death will definitely cause horrible psychological trauma for anyone who finds you or sees photos and even if you're found by cops or a stranger, your "next of kin" will be forced to see what's left of you, in order to confirm your identity for the death certificate.

Every method shows a scarily low success rate because most methods are poorly executed. Most gun suicides involve handguns -- which are all vastly less powerful than a shotgun -- and the most common caliber is .22LR which is as wimpy as it gets. To boost failures further you have folks who shoot themselves in the chest or abdomen.

WARNING GRAPHIC: There was a man in an area I used to work as an EMT, years ago, who shot himself with a shotgun, barrel into his mouth at an angle that SHOULD HAVE blown his entire head off…. Somehow it didn't really touch the brain. Everything from his forehead down to his lower jaw were missing, except for part of his tongue. He was breathing, tongue moving around violently, and I bet if he had a mouth that could help form human sounds for him, he would have been screaming in pain. If I remember correctly, he did somehow still have one eye left. He got sedated and intubated, transported to a trauma center, and survived. He needed complete facial reconstruction and years of surgery. I believe he ultimately succeeded in committing suicide several years later. He was very much aware of what happened following pulling that trigger.

 

[porksoda]

SN was a hell of a lot easier for me to get a hold of than a gun would be and I'd rather leave as little a mess as possible.
Exiting via SN doesn't seem all that complicated, anyway.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

So @Worthless loser, I gotta say, I'm curious.

What I've observed is that the original post was made 5 1/2 hours ago; there were 19 comments before this one; you haven't reacted to any comments or engaged in dialogue; and you've regularly been logged in on the site since the OP, last seen 12 minutes ago.

Now, some people like to drop a bomb. They make a provocative title and post, and then just sit back and watch everyone scramble and get emotional. They don't react or comment, they watch the show.

Some people wait a while and then respond to a lot of people at once. They say things like, "I get where you're coming from now," or "I didn't know that about my own chosen method," things of that nature.

I'm curious about which type you'll prove to be...

 

[AlreadyGone]

So @Worthless loser, I gotta say, I'm curious.

What I've observed is that the original post was made 5 1/2 hours ago; there were 19 comments before this one; you haven't reacted to any comments or engaged in dialogue; and you've regularly been logged in on the site since the OP, last seen 12 minutes ago.

Now, some people like to drop a bomb. They make a provocative title and post, and then just sit back and watch everyone scramble and get emotional. They don't react or comment, they watch the show.

Some people wait a while and then respond to a lot of people at once. They say things like, "I get where you're coming from now," or "I didn't know that about my own chosen method," things of that nature.

I'm curious about which type you'll prove to be...

Yup, I see this a lot on this board...especially with poll like threads.

 

[Swedish Equality]

A lot easier to overcome si when you just use poison, it takes 5 sec. While hanging it's really harder , +you must wait enough time while si tortures you. Access could be a problem also. I cannot even buy sn :(

 

[BPD Barbie]

It's the most peaceful and easiest method a lot of people have access to. A lot of people here come from countries where guns aren't easily obtained and some that can get a gun, don't want someone to have to find them in that state. It's not a nice clean up.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Yup, I see this a lot on this board...especially with poll like threads.

Did you say "troll like threads"?

No?

Sorry, my bad!

 

[TAW122]

Good answers from everyone here. For me, I'm not using SN, but rather a firearm as that is easier for me to come by (I live in the US and in a state that has lax/permissive gun laws). To me, if I couldn't get a gun, I'd go for SN or another method. I do agree with many other answers here especially what @Ringoooooo and @GoodPersonEffed said, as some people prefer a more peaceful way to go and also less chance of permanent damage should they fail.

 

[AlreadyGone]

Personally, I am not trained to use a firearm. So if I do anything wrong, I would be in worst condition than I am in now. I prefer not to take that risk.

 

[Worthless loser]

So @Worthless loser, I gotta say, I'm curious.

What I've observed is that the original post was made 5 1/2 hours ago; there were 19 comments before this one; you haven't reacted to any comments or engaged in dialogue; and you've regularly been logged in on the site since the OP, last seen 12 minutes ago.

Now, some people like to drop a bomb. They make a provocative title and post, and then just sit back and watch everyone scramble and get emotional. They don't react or comment, they watch the show.

Some people wait a while and then respond to a lot of people at once. They say things like, "I get where you're coming from now," or "I didn't know that about my own chosen method," things of that nature.

I'm curious about which type you'll prove to be...

I had no idea a topic like this would be considered trolling. Not my intention. I also didn't expect to be scrutinized.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I had no idea a topic like this would be considered trolling. Not my intention.

Minimization: This is a type of denial coupled with rationalization. The manipulator asserts that their behavior is not as harmful or irresponsible as someone else was suggesting, for example, saying that a taunt or insult was only a joke.

I also didn't expect to be scrutinized.

Vilifying the victim: More than any other, this tactic is a powerful means of putting the victim on the defensive while simultaneously masking the aggressive intent of the manipulator, while the manipulator falsely accuses the victim as being an abuser in response when the victim stands up for or defends themselves or their position.

Playing the victim role: Manipulator portrays themself as a victim of circumstance or of someone else's behavior in order to gain pity, sympathy or evoke compassion and thereby get something from another. Caring and conscientious people cannot stand to see anyone suffering and the manipulator often finds it easy to play on sympathy to get cooperation.


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