OK_Smile
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not_a_robot
"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
- May 30, 2019
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People don't research enough. They grab a few ambien or welbutrin and knock it back with whiskey like they saw in a movie.
When I was little my mom said prescription meds all had stuff in them to make you throw up if you took too many so you couldn't kill yourself with them. I totally believed her for years.
When I was little my mom said prescription meds all had stuff in them to make you throw up if you took too many so you couldn't kill yourself with them. I totally believed her for years.
They are designed to maim, not to kill. Just like landmines.
Severen
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- Jun 30, 2018
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Because the only drugs left that can actually kill you in a reliable manner are amitryptiline and propranolol.
not_a_robot
"i hope the leaving is joyful, & never to return"
- May 30, 2019
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succinylcholine but it's not like we could get that.
and More Feind, and Oh P 8s...
Opis are not that reliable, someone here recently survived a massive overdose of fent with no tolerance. He was found and taken to the ER though.
May be.. its hard to get your hands on Rx drugs. Even though you plan to get it by faking illness, you need to act well..and stock pile them for months.
Also you need to attempt with those specific drugs in specified dosages. also you need to be not found for a good amount of time.
you need to test all those drugs before hand (each person reacts to drugs in a different way, as you'll be combining 4 or 5 different types of drugs..better to check before). Also check if there can be any drug-to-drug interactions between the drugs you are using.
You'll need to research a lot.
and the combinations mentioned in Peph are reliable.
Also you need to attempt with those specific drugs in specified dosages. also you need to be not found for a good amount of time.
you need to test all those drugs before hand (each person reacts to drugs in a different way, as you'll be combining 4 or 5 different types of drugs..better to check before). Also check if there can be any drug-to-drug interactions between the drugs you are using.
You'll need to research a lot.
and the combinations mentioned in Peph are reliable.
OK_Smile
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- Jan 23, 2019
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I've read a lot of people in this forum talking about tricycle antidepressives, they are really good for an overdose? I pretend mixing tramadol, amitriptyline with alcohol and a lot of benzodiazepines(zolpidem and Klonopin) i have a very high dose of all of them. It may work? If not, how can be the result?
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It may be peaceful as you are saying you will OD on tricyclics along with benzos. but, the specified dosage of benzos is required as mentioned in those cocktails.
If you have the huge amount of Ami required then yes, it is reliable. Look here:
Tramadol is not needed and will just give you a seizure in high doses so leave it out.
OK_Smile
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- Jan 23, 2019
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130mg of klonopin, 90mg of xanax, of 400mg of zolpidem, and i'm doubt if i take tramadol or amitriptyline. I will drink some good alcohol too, probably some domperidone too to avoid vomiting.
ah alright then, i will read more about that, thanks
ah alright then, i will read more about that, thanks
Ah, alright, i will read it, thanks.If you have the huge amount of Ami required then yes, it is reliable. Look here:
Tramadol is not needed and will just give you a seizure in high doses so leave it out.
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Without amitryptyline you will probably go to coma and you can wake up with damaged short term memory.
OK_Smile
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- Jan 23, 2019
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Yes, i just read about that right now, i've read that clomipramine could be a good replace for amitryptyline, it really is? Because with the money i have i can buy a lot more of clomi than ami
It looks to be similar enough so it will likely work. That cocktail was conceived by a medic so if it's listed as a suitable replacement, it means it will do the job.
OK_Smile
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- Jan 23, 2019
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Alright, i will probably do it today at night, and do a post here saying goodbye, thanks for information.
Because most lethal prescription drugs have been replaced with non-lethal drugs.
ericwilkinson
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- Jun 25, 2019
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I think this is the best answer.
G.P's used to prescribe baributates which when combined with alcohol or opiates are extremely lethal. A wrong dose can land you in a coma or dead.
Drugs can kill you in two ways, organ failure (acetaminophen, ibuprofen) which is horrendous and the other way is by causing respitratory depression (benzos, alcohol, BDZ drugs - ambien, opiates, barbituates).
The latter drugs have been highly restricted. Even benzos in Europe are very very hard to find (if you live in Ireland or the UK).
cornflowerblue
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- Feb 18, 2019
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People don't do their research, they confuse "can be lethal" with "will be lethal", they modify recipes by adding or removing or changing components, they get found and rescued early because they don't allocate enough time in private, they tell people what they're doing beforehand and end up found and rescued.
And the elephant in the room is that many doing pill ODs don't want to die, they want to do a suicidal gesture. So they go for impulsive, ineffective, dramatic, and well-announced.
And the elephant in the room is that many doing pill ODs don't want to die, they want to do a suicidal gesture. So they go for impulsive, ineffective, dramatic, and well-announced.
OK_Smile
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Sorry, it may be kinda a dumb question buy why dying by organ failure is bad? Is painful?
cornflowerblue
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- Feb 18, 2019
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Yes, and it can take days or even weeks. And in the worst cases it can leave you comatose or vegetative for years before death.
Think how death from untreated cancer is, or from sepsis.
I have confirmed per dr. Admiraal's book that over 6 grams of any of the tricyclic antidepressants will cause death.
From the benzos you have I would take all the klonopin at the same time with the TCA and 10-20mg of xanax as you start getting dizzy. The xanax is to knock you out short-term, the klonopin will keep you asleep while the TCA stops your heart.
Pills are designed to help people, not to kill or even hurt them. Of course overdosing on them won't have a high rate of death.
Plus, doctors won't prescribe medicine in lethal doses. Your only real hope would be to go to multiple doctors and taking all the prescriptions they give you.
And, yes, you definitely can end up throwing up before you can swallow a potentially lethal dosage. Not sure why you think that's a myth.
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cornflowerblue
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- Feb 18, 2019
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wouldnt you vomit all of that up without proper strong anti-emetics? Don't invent your own recipes. Read PPeH. It covers TCAs.
You need antiemetics for all poisoning methods, this is mentioned everywhere. I did not mention that because I thought they already knew about it. I'm human and I make mistakes. Meto is OTC in Brazil anyway.
You talk about the PPeH like it's the Holy Bible - in fact, a lot of the information in it is copied from dr. Admiraal's book - "Guide to a selfchosen and humane death." The PPeH is a good resource but it's not the only one.
cornflowerblue
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- Feb 18, 2019
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That's fine to use other resources, some may be better than PPeH. I mention PPeH because it's updated the most frequently and covers multiple methods. Other books are fine too. I said the anti-emetics because of how many posts we get here of people impulsively making up their own recipes, guessing doses, deciding Dramamine is as useful as meto or even skipping antiemetics altogether, then of course failing and being hospitalized.
Benzos alone can't kill you, even in large doses.
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