Why some people do die of suicide and some don't

[done_so_done]

I was browsing the internet and found this article. You be the judge......

Practice makes deadly perfection, FSU suicide researcher says

 

[Jean Améry]

I was browsing the internet and found this article. You be the judge......

Practice makes deadly perfection, FSU suicide researcher says

What Joiner posits is not an empirical explanation (certainly not causal) but a hypothesis. That he dares compare it to understanding the mechanisms behind heart disease is typical psychologists' hubris.

Of course I haven't done it (yet) but to me 'burdensomeness to others' simply does not apply as I'm sure it doesn't for many.

How can he be sure physicians kill themselves because of heightened exposure to pain and misery? There's a correlation there surely but he seems to imply there's an actual causal link between said exposure and suicide.

One might aswell suppose that being a medical professional is a stressful job with a high level of responsibility which makes it more likely mental problems will arise. Or that physicians have a much better knowledge of what it takes to shut down the human body effectively and (relatively) painlessly and they obviously have far easier access to lethal drugs. Or that physicians are more intelligent than the general population and thus more apt at seeing how foolish and ultimately futile the so called 'quest for happiness' really is. Or any number of possible explanations: pick and choose, put it into a faux causal model and do some social studies to 'prove' your hunch.

His 'brilliant' model is simply an application of learning theory and previous suicidological theories to the problem of suicide. I doubt the scientific validity of his theory but then the whole field of 'suicidology' is basically glorified guesswork.

I don't understand how it's somehow relevant to a (supposedly) scientific study that the author has personal experience with his research subject.

 

[TimeToDie]

"Scare campaigns such as those that are sometimes targeted at teenagers do not work as prevention tools and may, in fact, backfire because they further habituate the at-risk patient to the idea of suicide. Joiner noted that rock singer Kurt Cobain repeatedly watched news footage of a government official who committed suicide during a news conference before carrying out his own suicide in 1994."

I wonder how Cobain did that without YouTube?

 

[LaBrava]

I'm guessing that there may have been VHS tapes of that kind of thing doing the rounds.

 

[escapefromabuse]

I'm guessing that there may have been VHS tapes of that kind of thing doing the rounds.

"Faces of Death" back in the '90's. It bestgore of the '90's.

 

[Zoltiel]

The same reason that some people die of cancer and some don't. It's just another way to die.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

"Faces of Death" back in the '90's. It bestgore of the '90's.

Oh I remember that movie, I watched it when I kid. I wasn't even scared. 90's were so innocent.

 

[Mr.Nobody]

Some are luckier than others.

 

[Ghost2211]

Human error.