Why partial hanging is much commom than full hanging?

[Yonlux]

Why is it said that most suicides by hanging are due to partial suspension and not total suspension, whereas what is most reported in the news, seen in films/series and pop culture in general portrays total suspension?

 

[Fate]

Due to SI. It's easier doing partial knowing you can stop it at any moment. People do it trying to pass out, since once you pass out it's over. Full suspension has a higher chance of succeeding since you can't really save yourself, but it's the SI barrier you'd have to overcome first.

 

[Adûnâi]

Due to SI. It's easier doing partial knowing you can stop it at any moment. People do it trying to pass out, since once you pass out it's over. Full suspension has a higher chance of succeeding since you can't really save yourself, but it's the SI barrier you'd have to overcome first.

What about the pain? I'm not sure about such stuff, so apologies if it's stupid.

 

[Fate]

What about the pain? I'm not sure about such stuff, so apologies if it's stupid.

There will be some pain and discomfort, but it doesn't take long to pass out so you'd have to put up with it for under 60 seconds (If it's pressing the the artery properly — Itll be more likely under 20s)

 

[dontlook]

There will be some pain and discomfort, but it doesn't take long to pass out so you'd have to put up with it for about 60 seconds (If it's pressing the the artery properly)

If you're doing it right, you should pass out within seconds. 1 minute isnt accurate at all

 

[Fate]

If you're doing it right, you should pass out within seconds. 1 minute isnt accurate at all

that's on a higher example. I don't like to downplay something (Or give the perfect scenario) and say under 20 seconds (Which if done right usually is) otherwise people would be disappointed. But either way, it'll take under 60s. But most likely like you said, if done right it'll be far shorter than that.

 

[lilah]

It's easier doing partial knowing you can stop it at any moment.

i wish i understood the science of partial hanging. i've tried it soooo many times and failed.. only once did i "succeed" (i felt myself painlessly losing consciousness and volontarily stopped it). it's so hard to adequately put pressure on the carotid arteries

 

[Forever Sleep]

I would think partial is more accessable to a lot of people. There are maybe more anchor points lower down in a home. I've considered full hanging but all there really is available to me is a loft hatch and there are stair bannisters right next to it. So- I reckon I'd panic and try and stand on them.

That's true though- that you don't see partial represented in films or on TV much. The first I heard of it was the death of Robin Williams. I didn't even realise it was possible. I don't think I'd have the will power for it. Maybe they don't represent it because I'm assuming it can be easy to do, although again, I doubt I'd be able to work it out. As far as I'm aware, didn't Robin Williams use a belt trapped in a door frame? RIP.

Plus, I suppose in films etc. they're probably going more for the horror, dramatic aspect. It's probably more instantly recognisable to see feet dangling. They don't always need to show more than that for people to understand what they're seeing.

 

[pulleditnearlyoff]

Why is it said that most suicides by hanging are due to partial suspension and not total suspension, whereas what is most reported in the news, seen in films/series and pop culture in general portrays total suspension?

It's just the fact that you have 100% control.

 

[Unleashtherain]

i wish i understood the science of partial hanging. i've tried it soooo many times and failed.. only once did i "succeed" (i felt myself painlessly losing consciousness and volontarily stopped it). it's so hard to adequately put pressure on the carotid arteries

I can't seem to get it right either so don't feel bad.

 

[CantDoIt]

Partial seems to be theoretically easier to overcome SI with and you won't, say, accidentally break your neck or die from strangulation because to get partial right you must first sort of start going unconscious via compression of the carotid artery.

 

[failureofahuman]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that? I had a total suspension attempt and it nearly worked, I did pass out in seconds, embarrassingly I tied the knot incorrectly and it came undone through it. I felt a big blunt pain on my neck for like 2 seconds as I fell, then I remember nothing. So I would recommend to people, to find a tree, ceiling fan, somewhere high to hang themselves from and go for it. I permanently damaged the "joint" where the ceiling fan was so I'm not able to properly reattempt, I'm going to try from a tree when I can. If you just jump, you'll pass out in seconds like I did. I'm pretty sure if you softly ease into it, you'll restrict the jugulars and not the carotids, so it will ironically hurt more. Just be courageous and it'll only hurt for like 2 seconds

 

[Yonlux]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that? I had a total suspension attempt and it nearly worked, I did pass out in seconds, embarrassingly I tied the knot incorrectly and it came undone through it. I felt a big blunt pain on my neck for like 2 seconds as I fell, then I remember nothing. So I would recommend to people, to find a tree, ceiling fan, somewhere high to hang themselves from and go for it. I permanently damaged the "joint" where the ceiling fan was so I'm not able to properly reattempt, I'm going to try from a tree when I can. If you just jump, you'll pass out in seconds like I did. I'm pretty sure if you softly ease into it, you'll restrict the jugulars and not the carotids, so it will ironically hurt more. Just be courageous and it'll only hurt for like 2 seconds

I don't remember where exactly I saw this, but it was on some post on this forum. Which node did you use and if possible, what was the mistake you made in the node? thank you in advance

 

[failureofahuman]

I don't remember where exactly I saw this, but it was on some post on this forum. Which node did you use and if possible, what was the mistake you made in the node? thank you in advance

Bowline on the anchor point and slipknot on the noose. Basically there are two ends where the rope on the bowline comes out and I made the slipknot noose on the wrong end

 

[Z-A]

You have control in partial.

 

[sevennn]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that? I had a total suspension attempt and it nearly worked, I did pass out in seconds, embarrassingly I tied the knot incorrectly and it came undone through it. I felt a big blunt pain on my neck for like 2 seconds as I fell, then I remember nothing. So I would recommend to people, to find a tree, ceiling fan, somewhere high to hang themselves from and go for it. I permanently damaged the "joint" where the ceiling fan was so I'm not able to properly reattempt, I'm going to try from a tree when I can. If you just jump, you'll pass out in seconds like I did. I'm pretty sure if you softly ease into it, you'll restrict the jugulars and not the carotids, so it will ironically hurt more. Just be courageous and it'll only hurt for like 2 seconds

it's so confusing. i saw someone say stepping of the chair gently is better. but wow 2 seconds. that's good.

 

[Kitsunekia90]

could someone explain to me or write to me privately. how the partial happens, what needs to be done height...etc

 

[TragedyBornCrimson]

I have tried partial suspension hanging. I couldn't get myself to pass out, the vessels in my eyes burst but no passing out, it felt like my head would explode. I have no idea how people are able to pass out so easily

 

[Kitsunekia90]

I have tried partial suspension hanging. I couldn't get myself to pass out, the vessels in my eyes burst but no passing out, it felt like my head would explode. I have no idea how people are able to pass out so easily

Is there anyone who can help us with the hanging theory?

 

[last_wink]

to speak generally, partial is hard to execute, because even if you make it properly, you will probably move and/or - even unconscious - your body can save you even by putting out the rope.

globally there all info on SaSu, so if you informed yourself about the knots, rope and positions, there isnt so much more to know.

Partial hanging seems seducing because it is more easy to find an appropriate anchor point. But globally not everyone will black out because there is less pressure applied. Even for those who succeed to black out, many of us are saved by instinct or movements of the body that ease the pressure and make you wake up.

It can appear more difficult to find the appropriate anchor point for full suspension, especially if you hide yourself in your room, but going outside and find a tree for full suspension is more reliable, s failureofahuman stated it. Full suspension is quick and effective, it appears more scary but in fact it's so much more effective that it's more easy to pass out and it should be a no way back ticket.

you are free to try partial but after few tries you will realise that it's not easy at all to be successful with this method.

 

[regular john]

how can you fully hang in hotel room ? what material rope should me made of ? i saw people using scarves or sth

 

[sevennn]

Bowline on the anchor point and slipknot on the noose. Basically there are two ends where the rope on the bowline comes out and I made the slipknot noose on the wrong end

which end is the wrong end? sorry for the question.

 

[cait_sith]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that? I had a total suspension attempt and it nearly worked, I did pass out in seconds, embarrassingly I tied the knot incorrectly and it came undone through it. I felt a big blunt pain on my neck for like 2 seconds as I fell, then I remember nothing. So I would recommend to people, to find a tree, ceiling fan, somewhere high to hang themselves from and go for it. I permanently damaged the "joint" where the ceiling fan was so I'm not able to properly reattempt, I'm going to try from a tree when I can. If you just jump, you'll pass out in seconds like I did. I'm pretty sure if you softly ease into it, you'll restrict the jugulars and not the carotids, so it will ironically hurt more. Just be courageous and it'll only hurt for like 2 seconds

I'm not very good at articulating in English so I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to ask but When you "jumped" was the noose the same height as your neck or did you have few centimetres of drop that made the rope constrict faster? I'm thinking about using a higher chair for a small drop. But it seems more painful.

 

[cheshirecat128]

For a partial hanging, would taking benzos + alcohol help control SI to prevent your body from getting out of the position? I've seen posts that say that you need a lot of "willpower" to go through with a partial hanging.

 

[WaitingPatiently]

I was able to fully pass out during a partial hanging. It felt like I was going to sleep, within a few seconds.
I kind of tricked myself into doing it, by repeating the same motions every night for the past couple days.
The night I passed out was just another "one of those nights" when I finally hit the right spot for my carotids.
Only thing I did wrong was a weak rope lol

 

[Yonlux]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that?

I've remember rn where I saw that, Is in the SaSu main megathread about hanging method: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/
Here is the part that speaks that:

 

[tpboy]

Why is it said that most suicides by hanging are due to partial suspension and not total suspension, whereas what is most reported in the news, seen in films/series and pop culture in general portrays total suspension?

im not sure this is actually true. i have watched maybe 100 suicides by hanging. i wanted to see how long, ect. i have seen very few partial on there. seems to me the most common is starting out with partial and then going to full if this makes sense. like holding onto the rope until blackout which does not take long. to me they look pretty well gone in just a few minutes.

 

[JesiBel]

All the videos I've seen on WPD are of people using FSH and they died.

FSH is for determined people, you do it, you die, there's no turning back.

 

[Ixtab69]

I have tried partial suspension hanging. I couldn't get myself to pass out, the vessels in my eyes burst but no passing out, it felt like my head would explode. I have no idea how people are able to pass out so easily

this happens when you constrict the jugular instead of the carotid

All the videos I've seen on WPD are of people using FSH and they died.

FSH is for determined people, you do it, you die, there's no turning back.

I couldn't agree more...I think the main reason why people try partial hanging is that it's a lot easier to find a suitable anchor point ( many apartments do not lend themselves to FSH lacking a high enough anchor point)

 

[charcoalcat]

I don't think most successful suicides are partial, where did you hear that? I had a total suspension attempt and it nearly worked, I did pass out in seconds, embarrassingly I tied the knot incorrectly and it came undone through it. I felt a big blunt pain on my neck for like 2 seconds as I fell, then I remember nothing. So I would recommend to people, to find a tree, ceiling fan, somewhere high to hang themselves from and go for it. I permanently damaged the "joint" where the ceiling fan was so I'm not able to properly reattempt, I'm going to try from a tree when I can. If you just jump, you'll pass out in seconds like I did. I'm pretty sure if you softly ease into it, you'll restrict the jugulars and not the carotids, so it will ironically hurt more. Just be courageous and it'll only hurt for like 2 seconds

im not sure this is actually true. i have watched maybe 100 suicides by hanging. i wanted to see how long, ect. i have seen very few partial on there. seems to me the most common is starting out with partial and then going to full if this makes sense. like holding onto the rope until blackout which does not take long. to me they look pretty well gone in just a few minutes.

Sharing an interesting study done on hanging fatalities. It was studied on a total of 244 hanging cases over a 13 year period based in Bangkok, Thailand.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1179555717692545

Partial was seen in 204 cases (83.6%) and full suspension was 40 cases (16.4%). I believe this stat will not be dissimilar to hanging cases in other countries. Partial is in fact very common nowadays.

Ps: The study includes many other details about hanging that you guys may be keen to look into if this is your preferred method.