Why normal people don't consider suicide?

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Suicide by and large is a luxury of the rich and/or educated. Homeless people don't commit suicide for the same reason that black people don't. They are caught up in the game of life of us versus them. Which creates the right type of friction needed to want to live.

Suicide Rates Higher For Americans Living Among Wealthy Neighbors: Study

"Although people making less than $10,000 are 50 percent more likely to commit suicide than those with incomes above $60,000, the San Francisco Federal Reserve paper shows that comparing yourself to those around you might have a larger impact on happiness than personal net worth.".
"But once you make a salary of $75,000 a year, additional income does not translate to added happiness, according to a study from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School.".
This got complex very quickly, lol.

Those "smallest things" that they beg for are small things to you but big to them lol. Begging for food and necessities to get resources, maintain a quality of life and actually survive isnt given to them like it is to you.

I don't think you got the point. What I meant was small things to keep us alive, like a glass of water or something to keep the body warm (a cap for example), things that an ordinary animal could do in nature very easily but they can't due to society and evolution itself.

 

[hunter_lewis]

Actually most people do contemplate suicide at one point or another, but most realize that ctbing is difficult and stop thinking about it, or find a solution to their problems. Most people don't want to die, and most of them find a way to manage in their situation.

 

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"Although people making less than $10,000 are 50 percent more likely to commit suicide than those with incomes above $60,000, the San Francisco Federal Reserve paper shows that comparing yourself to those around you might have a larger impact on happiness than personal net worth.".
"But once you make a salary of $75,000 a year, additional income does not translate to added happiness, according to a study from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School.".
This got complex very quickly, lol.



I don't think you got the point. What I meant was small things to keep us alive, like a glass of water or something to keep the body warm (a cap for example), things that an ordinary animal could do in nature very easily but they can't due to society and evolution itself.

And i dont think you got the point? Small things that "KEEP US ALIVE" such as WATER are a form of natural resources and necessities needed to sustain a quality of life. There are people who dont even have access to proper drinking water; let alone food. I dont understand or get the animal comparison when were talking about people of lower status quo or of lower class in a class hierarchy in society? What the hell would animals have anything to do with this lmaoo, thats a horrible example. So of course, to you, having a life to beg for the "smallest of things" such as natural necessities to sustain a quality of life is bad in your opinion, because you have access to that all easily. Some people dont, and from their perspective, its the biggest things they beg for and means everything to them.

This lack of a quality of life, does lead to suicide for homeless people. Many obviously resort to streets and abuse drugs, and OD. Or lead to alcohol abuse, die because of health issues, etc. Being relatively deprived of resources and necessities. I think suicides the second leading cause for death amongst homeless people in England. I guess as stated by someone, theres not enough light shed onto them, because of their lower status and the perception around homeless people in society today.

 

[deflagrat]

I always thought about asking that woman in front of the hospital "how's that you don't want to kill yourself?" but it would be rude. I have seen her sleeping there while it's raining. She's not from this country so it must be impossible for her to find a job. I don't think life can't get any shittier than that (even being ill would be better if you have money). I just don't understand, most people would kill themselves if they were her.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Unless any of us are mind-readers, we can't know who is considering suicide at any time.

 

[ARW3N]

Using the homeless as an example of people who don't commit suicide is not a good example because the homeless actually have a higher suicide rate.

 

[Despondent]

I saw a video once on YouTube and even "normal'' people can want to consider suicide. You don't have to have a mental illness to want to take your own life. They themselves also plan their own suicide if things seem rough and like they can't deal anymore. All it takes is something minor to make someone want to diminish their own existence. Although homeless people may not be suicidal planning, they can still have suicidal thoughts (two different things). Although suicidal thoughts CAN lead to suicidal planning.

 

[Final Escape]

Take a look at the homeless people for example, why they haven't commit suicide? I mean, having a life where you need to beg for the smallest things doesn't seem to be good.

They are too busy trying to survive. Sometimes some homeless might actually have more of a social network of other homeless. Maybe that mitigates the isolation somewhat. Not having to have a job reduced stress and no bills lol! I'm not saying it's not going to be depressing as fuck. They have to be not sober to deal maybe that helps to deal with pain. Im so probably off on this but I've witnessed the homeless congregate in groups or a couple of them at a time together. They do die prematurely and maybe it's more like a passive suicide since they are killed off by the elements and unable to care for themselves as well.

 

[R_N]

Because of the blind optimism. Even if they complain how life is hard for them they still hope for the better, always.

Too bad reality doesn't work like that and some keep suffering until they die with their stupid hope.

 

[S1mpleme]

Take a look at the homeless people for example, why they haven't commit suicide? I mean, having a life where you need to beg for the smallest things doesn't seem to be good.

Who are normal people? Some of homeless people like to be homeless, some of them have to work for criminals - they collect money as homeless and give it to their boss, and usually they can't tell police cause nobody cares of them. And yes, not everyone, but homeless people die by suicide too, they won't advertise it.

 

[idecidewhen]

Why is suicide not for "normal "people? Many people who seem to have it all kill themselves. I'm sure many on here just, like me that don't want to exist, and haven't for most of their lives. Like everyone, they got thrust into playing a role expected of them but knew it was only a role. It wasn't them. They see beauty in the world, believe in a god, have people around that love them, and want for nothing, but see no point in being here. Maybe they are just thinkers who see that stuff as a big act, superficial and temporary in the scheme of life and feel like an outsider because no one else gets it. That's still pretty normal to me

 

[Final Escape]

It's because of despair not a chemical imbalance.

Why does psychiatry ignore the human condition and legit natural suffering in response to terrible life conditions or tragedy? I know why but I felt like asking that question lol!

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Depression isn't caused by chemical imbalance. That's misinformation spread on purpose. They spread that around that on purpose so that the "depressed" people can be seen as crazy and mental. Like there's something wrong with them.
Its usually caused by external events around the person.

Because of the blind optimism. Even if they complain how life is hard for them they still hope for the better, always.

Too bad reality doesn't work like that and some keep suffering until they die with their stupid hope.

Plus the human brain isn't wired for happiness. There's a reason suffering is part of a survival mechanism. Just like every animal also suffers while trying to survive. Evolution 101.

 

[BabyYoda]

What do you mean by "normal"? Do you mean people who are free from physical/mental illness? Or those who have an average life?

 

[Mizzmini45]

Take a look at the homeless people for example, why they haven't commit suicide? I mean, having a life where you need to beg for the smallest things doesn't seem to be good.

YouR acting like they aren't even people like you and me. They are just people like you and me. We are all the same They might have been where you are and ended up there. Anyone can turn homeless. Plus you don't know people's past histories or attempts.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

I really don't understand why not everyone wants to kill themselves. People sometimes say that life is good or that they love life... this seems irreconcilable with the reality of living and of the world. I can only imagine people are lying when they say this.

I really don't feel like its a matter of depression. Life just isn't worth it, objectively speaking. I can accept that suffering is unavoidable/necessary in order to live, but theres such little joy or fulfilment to balance it out. The scales aren't slightly out of balance... its like 100 tons of cold hard suffering on one side, and a few delicate feathers of happiness on the other. I just cant understand how *anyone* is ok with that.

I'm in my mid 30s now and I've given up on the idea of finding anything that would make life worth living.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I really don't understand why not everyone wants to kill themselves. People sometimes say that life is good or that they love life... this seems irreconcilable with the reality of living and of the world. I can only imagine people are lying when they say this.

I really don't feel like its a matter of depression. Life just isn't worth it, objectively speaking. I can accept that suffering is unavoidable/necessary in order to live, but theres such little joy or fulfilment to balance it out. The scales aren't slightly out of balance... its like 100 tons of cold hard suffering on one side, and a few delicate feathers of happiness on the other. I just cant understand how *anyone* is ok with that.

I'm in my mid 30s now and I've given up on the idea of finding anything that would make life worth living.

They are indeed lying to themselves. I think everyone does consider suicide but they don't have the courage to do it or something else in their lives is stopping them. It would be better if everyone did have the desire to commit suicide. It would actually save them from the meaningless suffering.
Instead they rely on some stupid superhero ideas from the stupid superhero movies to save them.

 

[Thereisnothing]

I dont think its easy to define normal in life, what is for one may seem alien to another.
Homeless people do end their lives, but not often as although they are so desperate and have so little, they still have hope.
I have so many health problems, it impacts my life all the time, plus I am alone now as lost the last person who loved me and cared about me (my father) just before Christmas. I so wish to be with him and my mother and not have to be on this earth suffering any longer, yet I am still here.
Why? I dont wish to live, yet I dont wish to die either.
As humans we have an inner mechanism that kicks in, in life or death situation we fight for self preservation, as do animals.
However hard it is for some people they still have hope.........in this I can see why. Not everyone will have same opinion, but for me it helps. I have so very little if anything really to go on living for, yet am here.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I dont think its easy to define normal in life, what is for one may seem alien to another.
Homeless people do end their lives, but not often as although they are so desperate and have so little, they still have hope.
I have so many health problems, it impacts my life all the time, plus I am alone now as lost the last person who loved me and cared about me (my father) just before Christmas. I so wish to be with him and my mother and not have to be on this earth suffering any longer, yet I am still here.
Why? I dont wish to live, yet I dont wish to die either.
As humans we have an inner mechanism that kicks in, in life or death situation we fight for self preservation, as do animals.
However hard it is for some people they still have hope.........in this I can see why. Not everyone will have same opinion, but for me it helps. I have so very little if anything really to go on living for, yet am here.

It doesn't matter whether they have hope. They'll eventually die regardless of hope. When you die, you won't even remember that you had a life.
Sentient beings naturally have a survival instinct, not just humans.
When you say "you don't want to live but you don't want to die" is cause your heart is clinging to "false hope" or in this case its cause your brain is still clinging to "pleasures" in life. Your brain chases dopamine naturally trying to avoid pain and suffering as much as possible.