Venting Why Keep It to Myself?

[henryM4]

i ' ve been orbiting this orbit of angst for what feels like light-years — every day kicks off with my brain stuck on the " loading existential dread " spinner , cycling between " zero value detected " and " guilt.exe has stopped working ( please restart your soul ) " . fr , hoarding this clandestine stash of self-harm hacks without doing anything feels like running a private private match of hide-and-seek with purpose — spoiler : you ' ll always lose . i ' m legit grinding xp in the solo dungeon of regret , farming useless intel that ' s just chilling in my brain ' s attic collecting digital dust bunnies . maybe it ' d be more poggers to slap on a cape and play support for the lost wanderers of the internet , chucking them life-saving hooks so they can " catch the bus " of survival and rack up assists like the unsung arcane support main . imagine me dropping life-gauntlets in every thread , stacking those sweet assist badges like i ' m competing for " best teammate of the year " in a shady esports league . but then the self-loathing kicks in harder than a lag spike , because handing over these methods is literally handing over the key card to self-destruct central


here ' s the real kicker , the ultimate cringe compilation : i ' m basically the bartender of suicide hacks , pouring death shots for thirsty anons — and it makes me wanna uninstall my entire moral OS . why do i feel this twisted urge to be the guy who distributes the cheat codes for life ' s final boss battle ? these keyboard warriors don ' t even know my face , and i ' m under zero NDA or sworn oath to serve this payload . even clicking " register " on this forum alt felt like signing a pact with the void , and now i ' m haunted by a guilt specter that ' s more clingy than your ex ' s last-ditch text at 3 a . m . it ' s like i ' m caught in this perpetual no-respawn zone , with a literal ghost in my shell whispering , " spill the hacks , be that edgy antihero , earn your dark rep . " but yo , that ghost is basically my personal horror DLC — every whisper is another notch on the belt of my own shame

ethics 101 : playing with fire , legality ain ' t a joke , moral compass : stay north , rewrite the script

from an ethics standpoint , slinging sensitive suicide-aide intel is like juggling live frag grenades — every toss risks obliterating someone ' s hope bar for good . institutions like the national institute of mental health ( n i m h ) slam the brakes on this kind of talk , flagging any sorta how-to self-harm guide as a high-risk toxic spill in suicide-intervention research . even the shrinks in the ivory towers know that leaving these methods in the wild is asking for a tragedy sequel

legally , this shit is nuclear . most places treat " assisting suicide " like a felony lvl crime . in the u s of a , only prescribed docs in a handful of states can help under ultra-strict pipe-cleaner regulations — everything else is straight to the slammer . over in netherlands land , casually sharing generic suicide tech articles might not get you cuffed , but actually aiding or abetting can have you doing time in a dutch dungeon . tl ; dr : don ' t do it , unless you ' re itching for a criminal record


morally speaking , our job is to be the goddamn lighthouse in the storm , not the tsunam i generator . we ' re supposed to funnel this dark knowledge into lifelines — crisis hotlines , empathy bombs , and meme-level uplifting support squads . instead of handing out blueprints for self-destruct , use that noggin to craft 200 iq prevention plans , start a genuine check-in thread , or drop mental health awareness mic-drops


real talk , even if my urge to " help " stems from some warped empathy glitch , i need to reroute this data stream onto an ethics server . flip these dark algorithms into support-stream code , build bots that ping at-risk anons with " hey , you ' re not alone , here ' s help " messages , or design a spoiler-tagged PSA campaign that ' s more viral than any self-harm hack. that ' s the only way to keep the server from crashing into chaos . so yeah , it ' s like being a dea agent who ' s memorized every single meth recipe in history but decides to ghostwrite for tuco instead of busting him — an absolute facepalm of cosmic proportions . better to be that nerdy lab rat dishing out reality checks than the guy selling poison on dark web 3.0 , am i right ?​

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's very tricky really. I doubt many of us know of other suicide methods that don't already have megathreads here. So, personally- I don't feel the need to discuss methods that much. The information is already here for people to research.

If you do know of other methods though, then yeah, that's complicated. Personally, I don't think I'd feel too comfortable sharing. Mainly because we have no proper idea of who's on the site. Minors, people going through temporary crisis. I realise how hypocritical that is though- seeing as I came here looking for information.

I suppose I see the effort we need to put in to research and obtain methods as a sort of safeguard. Will someone acting impulsively want to bother with all that?

May I ask- how do you know of these other methods? Or, is it more for self harm stuff?

I actually made a post in the 'suggestion' section that new members ought to be pointed to the 'Suicide Resource Compilation' thread in the stickies. Seeing as we always get new members asking the same questions: Should I do it? (We can't choose for you.) What method should I choose? (We can't choose for you.) Tell me how to do it! (We can't.)

As someone else pointed out though, perhaps it is better that it's made more complicated. It gives us more time to properly consider everything.

I suppose being on the site itself could be considered a bit dodgy. I guess it's like anything though. People belong to Facebook and bully people- even to suicide. It's partly how you use a site I think. I'd also argue that this site isn't the death cult it's made out to be. A lot of people actually remain alive because of this site.

I definitely think it's important to be responsible though with what we share. Especially considering who may be gaining easy access to it.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Well, there you have it, full of tools of destruction, but instead of using them you see how harmful they are and instead grow a conscience. That takes strength!

 

[henryM4]

It's very tricky really. I doubt many of us know of other suicide methods that don't already have megathreads here. So, personally- I don't feel the need to discuss methods that much. The information is already here for people to research.

If you do know of other methods though, then yeah, that's complicated. Personally, I don't think I'd feel too comfortable sharing. Mainly because we have no proper idea of who's on the site. Minors, people going through temporary crisis. I realise how hypocritical that is though- seeing as I came here looking for information.

I suppose I see the effort we need to put in to research and obtain methods as a sort of safeguard. Will someone acting impulsively want to bother with all that?

May I ask- how do you know of these other methods? Or, is it more for self harm stuff?

I actually made a post in the 'suggestion' section that new members ought to be pointed to the 'Suicide Resource Compilation' thread in the stickies. Seeing as we always get new members asking the same questions: Should I do it? (We can't choose for you.) What method should I choose? (We can't choose for you.) Tell me how to do it! (We can't.)

As someone else pointed out though, perhaps it is better that it's made more complicated. It gives us more time to properly consider everything.

I suppose being on the site itself could be considered a bit dodgy. I guess it's like anything though. People belong to Facebook and bully people- even to suicide. It's partly how you use a site I think. I'd also argue that this site isn't the death cult it's made out to be. A lot of people actually remain alive because of this site.

I definitely think it's important to be responsible though with what we share. Especially considering who may be gaining easy access to it.​

many forum members feel uneasy about sharing novel suicide methods because they cannot verify who's reading—ranging from minors to people in transient crises—which raises serious ethical concerns about inadvertently enabling vulnerable individuals. professional guidelines, such as those from the national institute of mental health, emphasize that distributing facilitative suicide information in research or peer forums poses unacceptable risks and must be handled with extreme care. legal frameworks further reinforce this caution: in the united states, while suicide itself is no longer criminalized, assisting another person's suicide remains a felony in all states except where physician‐assisted dying is narrowly permitted, and under dutch law any act intended to end a life is a criminal offence unless performed by a physician under strict due‐care criteria


research shows that requiring multiple steps to identify and carry out a self‐harm method acts as a powerful deterrent to impulsive attempts—studies of impulsivity in fatal suicidal behavior find that increased planning complexity is associated with lower rates of immediate attempts. by scattering how‐to discussions across several threads, forums inadvertently introduce critical "pause" points that can give individuals time to reconsider or seek help. most knowledge of "new" self‐harm methods originates not from personal experimentation but from academic and clinical literature surveys, media investigations into pro‐suicide spaces, and existing forum megathreads—making additional contributions largely redundant and heightening risk. this underscores why many users prefer to avoid repeating what's already documented and instead leave method discussions undisturbed


a key best practice is to direct newcomers toward a single, moderator‐approved "suicide resource compilation" that prioritizes hotlines, support services, and coping strategies over method details—analogous to the suicide prevention resource center's recommendation to signpost individuals to professional help first. linking every new member to this sticky thread reduces repeated pleas for methods and channels queries into safer, supportive avenues. adding friction—through pop‐up warnings, mandatory cooldown timers, or spoiler‐tagged content—has been shown to discourage impulsive self‐harm behavior by interrupting an automatic progression to detailed how‐to guides. these platform features serve as digital "speed bumps," prompting users to pause and potentially seek alternative supports


online forums carry a dual nature: poorly moderated spaces can become echo chambers that normalize self‐harm and may even increase distress, whereas well‐moderated communities with peer‐support programs have been linked to reduced suicidal ideation and increased help‐seeking. balancing open discussion with protective oversight is therefore essential. responsible sharing requires clear content policies that distinguish supportive discussion from prohibited how‐to content, alongside automated detection of self‐harm posts and trained human moderators to engage empathetically and escalate crises. fostering peer‐led encouragement—posting coping strategies, positive recovery stories, and verified helpline numbers—further shifts the focus from method facilitation to genuine support​

 

[Forever Sleep]

many forum members feel uneasy about sharing novel suicide methods because they cannot verify who's reading—ranging from minors to people in transient crises—which raises serious ethical concerns about inadvertently enabling vulnerable individuals. professional guidelines, such as those from the national institute of mental health, emphasize that distributing facilitative suicide information in research or peer forums poses unacceptable risks and must be handled with extreme care. legal frameworks further reinforce this caution: in the united states, while suicide itself is no longer criminalized, assisting another person's suicide remains a felony in all states except where physician‐assisted dying is narrowly permitted, and under dutch law any act intended to end a life is a criminal offence unless performed by a physician under strict due‐care criteria


research shows that requiring multiple steps to identify and carry out a self‐harm method acts as a powerful deterrent to impulsive attempts—studies of impulsivity in fatal suicidal behavior find that increased planning complexity is associated with lower rates of immediate attempts. by scattering how‐to discussions across several threads, forums inadvertently introduce critical "pause" points that can give individuals time to reconsider or seek help. most knowledge of "new" self‐harm methods originates not from personal experimentation but from academic and clinical literature surveys, media investigations into pro‐suicide spaces, and existing forum megathreads—making additional contributions largely redundant and heightening risk. this underscores why many users prefer to avoid repeating what's already documented and instead leave method discussions undisturbed


a key best practice is to direct newcomers toward a single, moderator‐approved "suicide resource compilation" that prioritizes hotlines, support services, and coping strategies over method details—analogous to the suicide prevention resource center's recommendation to signpost individuals to professional help first. linking every new member to this sticky thread reduces repeated pleas for methods and channels queries into safer, supportive avenues. adding friction—through pop‐up warnings, mandatory cooldown timers, or spoiler‐tagged content—has been shown to discourage impulsive self‐harm behavior by interrupting an automatic progression to detailed how‐to guides. these platform features serve as digital "speed bumps," prompting users to pause and potentially seek alternative supports


online forums carry a dual nature: poorly moderated spaces can become echo chambers that normalize self‐harm and may even increase distress, whereas well‐moderated communities with peer‐support programs have been linked to reduced suicidal ideation and increased help‐seeking. balancing open discussion with protective oversight is therefore essential. responsible sharing requires clear content policies that distinguish supportive discussion from prohibited how‐to content, alongside automated detection of self‐harm posts and trained human moderators to engage empathetically and escalate crises. fostering peer‐led encouragement—posting coping strategies, positive recovery stories, and verified helpline numbers—further shifts the focus from method facilitation to genuine support​

Most crazy methods are called out here. We're quite a cautious bunch on the whole because we've thought about the very real risk of maiming ourselves.

Out of curiosity, have you interacted with many people here? We are a varied group. Some will be open to suggestions for sure. I'd argue that members who seem unsure about suicide are nudged in the direction of recovery. Members who seem to be irrational or veey young, we tend to be extremely concerned about.

Hovever, I'd hazzard a guess that many members here wouldn't appreciate their access to the site being restricted by 'cooldown' timers or being bombarded by helpline information. Many people come to this site to escape the hollow platitudes and helplines that are plastered everywhere else.

Have you tried contacting a 'helpline' personally? Did it help? I mean- great- if you think you can suggest support systems that actually work out there but I'd hazzard a guess that many people here have already tried them.

Personally speaking, I'm 45. I doubt I have any serious mental illness. No more than anyone else at least. I can hold down a job, live independently, be reasonably high functioning. I'd honestly be surprised if I was deemed mentally incompetent. Personally, it would piss me off no end if someone started to try and 'nanny' me and my decisions. I can't speak for everyone but, I certainly wouldn't welcome that approach.

It can be pretty difficult to judge who to take that approach with too. Some people drop very few indicators about their age, circumstances, what they've tried in terms of recovery. How supportive would it be to grill them, the moment they get here?

I've actually wondered myself. What if a more pro-life version of Sasu existed? No method information resources. A freedom to speak freely but, more of a possitive push towards recovery and life. Would people visit it as much? Would some of us still yearn for somewhere like this?

I think the problem with a more 'positive' site would be the follow up. Great- tell the person from an abusive home with no money and just about to likely fail their exams that: They'll be ok, things will get better. Will they though- really? Are there enough support services in their location to help them? What do they do with no money, no support and no prospects? It's easy to deny someone suicide methods. It's easy to tell them they'll be all right. How does it actually help them though?

 

[henryM4]

Most crazy methods are called out here. We're quite a cautious bunch on the whole because we've thought about the very real risk of maiming ourselves.

Out of curiosity, have you interacted with many people here? We are a varied group. Some will be open to suggestions for sure. I'd argue that members who seem unsure about suicide are nudged in the direction of recovery. Members who seem to be irrational or veey young, we tend to be extremely concerned about.

Hovever, I'd hazzard a guess that many members here wouldn't appreciate their access to the site being restricted by 'cooldown' timers or being bombarded by helpline information. Many people come to this site to escape the hollow platitudes and helplines that are plastered everywhere else.

Have you tried contacting a 'helpline' personally? Did it help? I mean- great- if you think you can suggest support systems that actually work out there but I'd hazzard a guess that many people here have already tried them.

Personally speaking, I'm 45. I doubt I have any serious mental illness. No more than anyone else at least. I can hold down a job, live independently, be reasonably high functioning. I'd honestly be surprised if I was deemed mentally incompetent. Personally, it would piss me off no end if someone started to try and 'nanny' me and my decisions. I can't speak for everyone but, I certainly wouldn't welcome that approach.

It can be pretty difficult to judge who to take that approach with too. Some people drop very few indicators about their age, circumstances, what they've tried in terms of recovery. How supportive would it be to grill them, the moment they get here?

I've actually wondered myself. What if a more pro-life version of Sasu existed? No method information resources. A freedom to speak freely but, more of a possitive push towards recovery and life. Would people visit it as much? Would some of us still yearn for somewhere like this?

I think the problem with a more 'positive' site would be the follow up. Great- tell the person from an abusive home with no money and just about to likely fail their exams that: They'll be ok, things will get better. Will they though- really? Are there enough support services in their location to help them? What do they do with no money, no support and no prospects? It's easy to deny someone suicide methods. It's easy to tell them they'll be all right. How does it actually help them though?

so like , i've been chatting with a ton of anons over on those forums , from the truly desperate edge-lords to the curious lurkers hunting a safe space to vent anonymously . the squad is wild diverse : there are folks totally down for recovery tips , and then there's the half-exiting life crew who still aren't sure if they wanna off themselves . usually though , the thread gently nudges 'em toward healing anyway , which makes sense since online forums can actually be a legit source of social support when you're about to snap lol . on the flip side , the users who act all cray-cray or give off "i'm twelve" vibes set the whole board on high alert 'cause young teens are hella susceptible to bad self-harm content , right ?


personally , i once dialed a helpline myself , and dang , that hotline hustle gave me mad insight into how pros handle crisis chats . some studies say a quick phone call can dial down suicidal thoughts pretty fast , tho the long haul depends on follow-up care and whether you can actually find cheap therapy later . but real talk : most folks on those forums have already rage-dialed every hotline in the book before scoping out the anonymous boards . so when you push them to call 988 or whatever again , it comes off less like concern and more like "uff , not this bs again" disappointment


about those "cooldown" timers or spamming hotline numbers until they choke : total facepalm . anons pop in to dodge the feeling of being bossed around , and science even shows overbearing mods kill engagement faster than you can say "trigger warning" , sending them off to laxer chaos zones . so instead of feeling saved , they end up feeling shamed or like the mods think they can't adult . me personally , i'm all about that grown-up autonomy life—no one's "taking care of me" or telling me what to do . the real trick is spotting who's actually in danger versus who's just shitposting for attention . grilling people for age deets or life drama can go nuclear and deepen the trauma instead of fixing jack shit


speaking of tweaks , the so-called "pro-life" Sasu idea—no method talk but all positive vibes—might still snag the dark souls crowd itching to spit their darkest thoughts . research pegs that sanitized forums with legit psych support still get traffic , just not as much spicy method talk as the rawer boards . the grand finale issue is follow-through . telling someone "you'll be fine" feels like a stale meme if they're stuck in an abusive home , broke AF , or facing finals that'll tank their GPA . wh-'ole healthcare desert situation means pep talks ain't enough without real lifelines like emergency scholarships , free counseling , or local peer crews that can actually plug them into real help . long story short , you need that sweet spot combo : user freedom + chill security rules + IRL support network . without the IRL backup , both the "happy vibes only" and the "no holds barred" boards are half-baked . people gotta feel heard , not bossed around , and know there's a legit exit from the abyss—no more empty recovery promises​