why is suicide a bad thing?

[Darkover]

if someone decides that they don't want to live their life, which belongs to them only, why should they be forced to? i mean if a person is responsible for their own actions and their own body, why aren't they responsible for their life and can decide when to get off the ride? (metaphorically speaking)

Why is murder bad? Why is elective war bad? Why is animal torture bad?

murder and animal torture are acts that intrude on someone else. The person doesn't want to be murdered and the animal doesn't want to be tortured. Same with war, no one involved really wants to die but instead protect.

 

[dysthymia]

people view life as a gift, and they feel like that only people who suffered greatly are willing to take their own life. Being animals, our main goal is to survive and suicide goes against our very instinct so it's viewed as taboo. I think this is also why people think childfree people or anti-natalists are weird. Hope I explained it properly. I personally view suicide to be a good thing, it's far better than to die in a accident or your body shutting down.

 

[hikikomorizombie]

bc most of the populace are unfortunately simpletons who are incapable of objectively looking @ something. they will always project their own personal feelings & beliefs. look @ the outcry MAID for the terminally ill got & is still getting?? that's when i knew there was really no hope for the majority of the population.

i'm not going to pretend like there aren't some cases ive seen/ppl i've known & thought their reasoning for wanting to kts was illogical. ofc i didn't voice this, bc as u said, it's their own decision that they're entitled to. i just can also understand that other line of thinking @ times as well.

 

[Reuthry]

Yeah. Suicide shouldn't be considered as a bad thing but I am not saying that we should worship suicide. It is something that life brings. Some people just don't want to live anymore. Besides, in my opinion your decisions aren't yours, it's the effect of the environment, people and molecules in your head. We are just like robots.

But honestly on earth nothing including your body is yours. Everything revolves around power and money in today's world. People decide for you on things. You need to pay to live, you need to pay for your life which you didn't want in the first place.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's not and never could be, all that's "bad" is ultimately as a result of existence, there are no disadvantages to eternally ceasing to exist, in fact suicide is the way to take control and free ourselves from all that is bad. I see the absence of existence to be something only positive especially as in existence there is unlimited potential for pain and suffering yet nobody can be harmed by non-existence.

The true reason as to why there is so much anti-suicide brainwashing in this society is to try and make people believe that suicide is "irrational" even know it could never be, is because the society needs slaves. The view that suicide is supposedly so bad is an insensitive delusion used by humans to try and prolong this futile cycle of endless suffering that so tragically repeats once new life is forced into this hellish world.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Mainly because it does upset most people when someone they love dies. If they didn't understand the extent that the person was suffering too- then, they'll see it as a tragedy for that person as well as themselves. As in- they could have gotten better but now, they'll never get the chance. Plus- there's the whole mental health stigma.

They probably don't want to believe that their loved one- in their right mind, chose to reject their life, chose to reject them and chose to kill themselves- knowing how much pain it would cause them.

If it's a parent- they surely have to acknowledge that they gave that child a life they hated to such an extreme that they were willing to risk all that pain and danger to leave it. Whether that was through nature- simply birthing them into this world with those genes. Nurture- maybe things happened in their childhood that they could have handled better or- a mixture of the two. Either way- I imagine that might be a horrible amount of guilt to carry. Personally, if I had a child that I found out was suicidal- it would break my heart- hence- I haven't had children. Why would I risk putting either of us through that?

But anyway- I'm sure it's much more comfortable to believe they weren't in their right mind. They were mentally ill when they made that decision. Even better- they were 'vulnerable' and happened to come across evil websites on the internet that coerced them into doing it. I think you have to bear in mind- these 'normies' think we're all crazy! Would you support a decision made by someone you truly believed to be mentally incompetent? I'm not saying we are of course- I'm saying- they think we are. In fact- they are probably convinced that we are.

If of course a person is unfortunate enough to have no one that cares about them, I still think people project. So they- in this case wrongly- still imagine there will be people out there devastated by the loss. I think the thing is- maybe suicidal people put themselves in the suicidal person's shoes and the 'normies' put themselves in the shoes of the people that survive them- think what this will do to the people who love you. Probably because they maybe can't get their head around suicide. I think it's almost at a criminal level in some people's minds.

 

[stuckinthemud]

I guess it's all down to perspective and circumstances…
My personal view is suicide isn't a bad thing, it is only humane to choose peace over long term chronic pain and suffering.

However, it can be deemed tragic, bad, sad when there are cases of suicide where impulsivity and heightened emotions have taken over at that moment in time to an otherwise healthy usually mentally stable person.

 

[aGoodDayToDie]

Religion is largely responsible for anti suicide laws and beliefs.

We need to look at hoe euthanasia is carried out in countries like Canada and Belgium to understand what rational suicide looks like.

Suicide usually does harm others. But euthanasia countries understand that sometimes people hopelessly suffer more than the grief their death would cause. Once a person has exhausted all treatment options, euthanasia is normally granted. They try to protect the hopeless person as well as people they know, from irrational decisions caused by mental illness or temporary suffering.

 

[DesperateOne]

if someone decides that they don't want to live their life, which belongs to them only, why should they be forced to? i mean if a person is responsible for their own actions and their own body, why aren't they responsible for their life and can decide when to get off the ride? (metaphorically speaking)

Why is murder bad? Why is elective war bad? Why is animal torture bad?

murder and animal torture are acts that intrude on someone else. The person doesn't want to be murdered and the animal doesn't want to be tortured. Same with war, no one involved really wants to die but instead protect.

The answer that you will get depends on who you ask and what kind of mental framework they are operating in. I think the most objective answer is that suicide is bad because it indirectly affects other people that care about you. Those people put a lot of mental effort into your life and you have thus become a big part of them. That's why when someone's loved one kills themselves people usually say that a big part died with them. So, you are practically killing yourself and a big part of that other persons psyche.

That is tragic, but does that make you evil/bad? If I try to look at it objectively again, those people that have created you should've always known in the back of their minds that they could lose you at any point the moment you came into this world. They willingly accepted that risk and went through with it to garner happiness/fulfilment. For me even though I'm an extremely fucked up person and didn't even try, I like to think that I gave my parents 23 years of at least somewhat good moments to cherish (even though we don't talk that much, especially with my father, so I can't know for certain).