Discussion Why is partial not considered peaceful?

[Morning Angel]

I hear partial is relatively painless and you're gone within seconds. Why is this type of hanging not classified as peaceful in the same way gases, N, or CO are?

I don't get it.

 

[Deleted member 847]

It's the worst painless method to be honest because it allows you to turn back. It doesn't just kill you instantly. But if you have nothing else, this or even worse ligature strangulation are your only painless tickets for the bus.

 

[Morning Angel]

It's the worst painless method to be honest because it allows you turn back. It doesn't just kill you instantly. But if you have nothing else, this or even worse ligature strangulation are your only choices.

Interesting. I'd say that even other peaceful methods allow you to turn back, save for maybe N. With CO you do have to sit there for at least 30 seconds, I think it's the same for nitrogen.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Interesting. I'd say that even other peaceful methods allow you to turn back, save for maybe N. With CO you do have to sit there for at least 30 seconds, I think it's the same for nitrogen.

There are people who do this for pleasure lol. And sometimes they fuck up and die. What can I say lucky motherfuckers.

 

[Ashpac]

I hear partial is relatively painless and you're gone within seconds. Why is this type of hanging not classified as peaceful in the same way gases, N, or CO are?

I don't get it.

From personal experience, It allows you to change your mind.

 

[weedoge]

I hear partial is relatively painless and you're gone within seconds. Why is this type of hanging not classified as peaceful in the same way gases, N, or CO are?

I don't get it.

Honestly just because it's not excruciating pain doesn't mean it's painless. People find it extremely difficult to get the perfect position on the ligature and so end up experiencing some degree of pain or discomfort. I can remember vividly the pains I've felt when attempting or "testing" with this method in the past and as much as it's painless in comparison to full suspension I think there's a pretty big misconception.

There's no way I could relax and sleep or watch a movie and pass slowly with partial suspension the same way I could with drugs or gases and in that sense it's more similar to a "violent" method. It's just pretty terrifying and unpeaceful to have something tight around your neck imo. Also when considering peaceful methods of suicide it's often done in the context of the elderly and euthanasia where bettere options are generally available.

 

[RM5998]

Honestly just because it's not excruciating pain doesn't mean it's painless. People find it extremely difficult to get the perfect position on the ligature and so end up experiencing some degree of pain or discomfort. I can remember vividly the pains I've felt when attempting or "testing" with this method in the past and as much as it's painless in comparison to full suspension I think there's a pretty big misconception.

There's no way I could relax and sleep or watch a movie and pass slowly with partial suspension the same way I could with drugs or gases and in that sense it's more similar to a "violent" method. It's just pretty terrifying and unpeaceful to have something tight around your neck imo. Also when considering peaceful methods of suicide it's often done in the context of the elderly and euthanasia where bettere options are generally available.

Agreed. I've tried partial suspension 10 times now, and every single time all I've managed to do is block my jugular and cause my head to want to explode. It takes me at least an entire day to try it again.

I don't have a rope yet, just a t-shirt, so maybe that's the problem.

 

[Shay]

Agreed. I've tried partial suspension 10 times now, and every single time all I've managed to do is block my jugular and cause my head to want to explode. It takes me at least an entire day to try it again.

I don't have a rope yet, just a t-shirt, so maybe that's the problem.

Wow 10!! This was my method of choice and I want it to work.

 

[RM5998]

Wow 10!! This was my method of choice and I want it to work.

So do I. I don't want to have to try full suspension. And I can't get my hands on any useful drugs.

 

[weedoge]

So do I. I don't want to have to try full suspension. And I can't get my hands on any useful drugs.

Same here to both, that's why I moved to gas.

 

[RM5998]

Same here to both, that's why I moved to gas.

I envy all of you who have access to gas. I'm a 3rd year CS student now, so I don't get to go to a chem lab anymore. All I have are t-shirts and towels, and hopefully I can find some rope by the end of October.

 

[weedoge]

I envy all of you who have access to gas. I'm a 3rd year CS student now, so I don't get to go to a chem lab anymore. All I have are t-shirts and towels, and hopefully I can find some rope by the end of October.

by gas I mean CO personally :p

 

[TheGoodGuy]

You guys should see the video of the swedish guy comitting suicide with partial hanging he has a red tshirt on saying "just do it" and then the police come in after his death it looks very peaceful although he gets really red in the head. I can find thd video for you tomorrow I might even consider this method instead of a handgun since partial hanging will make me fall asleep by blocking the vein and then die bc of lack of air.

 

[lv-gras]

because it's not completely peaceful? guess it depends where you draw the lines. it is somewhat peaceful but not completely.

 

[Deleted_9cKnXB34QG]

You guys should see the video of the swedish guy comitting suicide with partial hanging he has a red tshirt on saying "just do it"

https://cutedeadguys.net/threads/9713-21-year-old-man-from-Sweden-hangs-himself-on-webcam
It looks like he passed out so fast, there was no way he could back out from this.

I've seen a lot of pics where people hang themselves in weird positions - with knees barely bent, like they could just stand up at any moment, sitting on the floor, kneeling. If partial was so bad and painful they wouldn't be able to die like that, they would immediately back out... so it must be kinda peaceful and/or quick.

So who's right - people on suicide forums saying that partial is too hard to get right or the folks who just did it without overthinking it? :P

 

[RM5998]

artial hanging will make me fall asleep by blocking the vein and then die bc of lack of air.

You need to block the arteries, not just the veins. Blocking the vein makes your head want to explode.

I wonder if my asthma has anything to do with my inability to get to my carotids. If it does, I'm fucked.

 

[RM5998]

https://cutedeadguys.net/threads/9713-21-year-old-man-from-Sweden-hangs-himself-on-webcam
It looks like he passed out so fast, there was no way he could back out from this.

I've seen a lot of pics where people hang themselves in weird positions - with knees barely bent, like they could just stand up at any moment, sitting on the floor, kneeling. If partial was so bad and painful they wouldn't be able to die like that, they would immediately back out... so it must be kinda peaceful and/or quick.

So who's right - people on suicide forums saying that partial is too hard to get right or the folks who just did it without overthinking it? :P

Yeah, I have the 'rope' (I'm using my t-shirt for now) in roughly the same place. I'm trying to use my door handle, since my room has nothing else. When I try to lean forward after tying the knot, I feel my jugular close up and I feel blood starting to build up in my head. I tried holding on for about 10-20s, but the pain just keeps getting worse.

EDIT: So I hadn't read the surrounding stuff before, but the page here says that he apparently took some painkillers beforehand. Medical stores here on my college campus won't give paracetamol tablets without a doctor's prescription, and the same holds for the off-campus stores too. Fuck this shit.

 

[Punished snake]

You need to block the arteries, not just the veins. Blocking the vein makes your head want to explode.

I wonder if my asthma has anything to do with my inability to get to my carotids. If it does, I'm fucked.

Yeah I'd like to know this too

 

[Sayo]

Yeah, I have the 'rope' (I'm using my t-shirt for now) in roughly the same place. I'm trying to use my door handle, since my room has nothing else. When I try to lean forward after tying the knot, I feel my jugular close up and I feel blood starting to build up in my head. I tried holding on for about 10-20s, but the pain just keeps getting worse.

EDIT: So I hadn't read the surrounding stuff before, but the page here says that he apparently took some painkillers beforehand. Medical stores here on my college campus won't give paracetamol tablets without a doctor's prescription, and the same holds for the off-campus stores too. Fuck this shit.

Prescription-only paracetamol? Like, not mixed with anything? Yikes, that is repressive. Sorry :(

 

[lv-gras]

Prescription-only paracetamol? Like, not mixed with anything? Yikes, that is repressive. Sorry :(

@RM5998 yeah, seconding what sayo said, wow.

 

[bigj75]

Define peaceful.

 

[111aaa]

One week before I had a failed attempt. Since then I'm practicing every day, my neck is in pain and I nearly lost my voice, scars on my skin. Partial is scary and definetly painful. I feel terrible unbearable panic every time when I feel black out is coming. I used to quit after 2-5 seconds of supression and afraid of use my full weight. I hate this method but I don't have any other possibility and I have to go. Tomorrow I have to try it again seriously but I feel so bad even to think about the torture what will come. I can't imagine how people use it for sexual purposes.
Awful pictures are in this document, but this is reality: https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/drchetansamra/pathophysiology-of-asphyxia-drowning-37345831
So partial hanging is not peaceful it's awful. Do it only if you can't choose anything else.

 

[RM5998]

So I did get it to work after getting a rope, and it's... scary, to say the least. I don't lose consciousness fully, but I do lose my muscle control and my balance. So I get this terrifying feeling of my body going limp while my vision is blurring and going monochrome, over the course of a minute or two.

In short, not a fan. And I'm supposed to CTB in November. Fuck me.

 

[RM5998]

Prescription-only paracetamol? Like, not mixed with anything? Yikes, that is repressive. Sorry :(

@RM5998 yeah, seconding what sayo said, wow.

They won't give me more capsules for my inhaler without a freshly issued prescription. Yep, it's that bad.

 

[Wantingpeace]

Honestly just because it's not excruciating pain doesn't mean it's painless. People find it extremely difficult to get the perfect position on the ligature and so end up experiencing some degree of pain or discomfort. I can remember vividly the pains I've felt when attempting or "testing" with this method in the past and as much as it's painless in comparison to full suspension I think there's a pretty big misconception.

There's no way I could relax and sleep or watch a movie and pass slowly with partial suspension the same way I could with drugs or gases and in that sense it's more similar to a "violent" method. It's just pretty terrifying and unpeaceful to have something tight around your neck imo. Also when considering peaceful methods of suicide it's often done in the context of the elderly and euthanasia where bettere options are generally available.

Yes i want to be tucked up in bed just the thought of dangling dead from end rope just awful.

 

[josh228]

There is nothing peaceful about the idea of it nor the process, nor the aftermath. Ive tried many times and it is my backup method, but the discomfort is overwhelming for me. The lack of control is what gets the me the most.

 

[Lra888]

I've tried myself and it's very difficult to get over the fear. It seems quick and easy for some but actually preparing and going through with it oneself is a difficult task that takes a lot of willpower. It's appealing because it's easy to acquire the means.

 

[Lra888]

Celebrities don't seem to have a hard time with it.

Also, i've never understood how people can hang themselves from a bed post?

 

[Jlt]

Is there a way to lessen the pain? I tried to numb the pain with sleeping pills but it was too horrible.

I have access to a six story building but it's gotta be seven to go to heaven.

 

[Lra888]

Is there a way to lessen the pain? I tried to numb the pain with sleeping pills but it was too horrible.

I have access to a six story building but it's gotta be seven to go to heaven.

I tried while drunk and high and that just seemed to make it worse. A hazy clumsy attempt when I was just trying to lessen the anxiety.