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thealteredmind
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I failed to understand how this addresses me, or anything I specifically stated. Most importantly you outright ignored the questions I asked with questions marks. While also stating that you see my questions. How does that make sense?I get your questions. The problem is from what I see(and I could be wrong) you are coming at this from a human perspective. If you are a Bible believing Christian, we believe God created the Universe in order for us to worship Him, that's it. He is both love and just and in order for that to work, there are certain "rules" for a better word He put in place. This was for our benefit and to live perfectly and righteously. You don't believe in them, God gave you free will. Why would he create just robots. He created everything we needed in perfect union together. We all would have sinned if we would have been put in Adam's and Eve's place so we all suffer the consequences.
Now for certain rituals or rules, there are some "rules" that are meant for all people at all times, the 10 Commandments for example. Then there are 'rules' meant for a specific people(the Jews) and or for a specific time. For example the wearing of cotton and eating shellfish. This purpose was for the Jewish people to distinguish themselves differently from other as God's people.
I did not intentionally ignore anything and thought I answered your questions. I am happy to discuss this with you, but please ease back a bit. I will not be insulted, especially when I genuinely tried to answer your questions and believe I did. I do not need to justify anything in the Old Testament, and I never said anything close to our brains are too small to understand. I stated coming from the position that God created everything and made a standard of living, it is up to us to live to that standard, not for God to live to ours.I failed to understand how this addresses me, or anything I specifically stated. Most importantly you outright ignored the questions I asked with questions marks. While also stating that you see my questions. How does that make sense?
To me it looks like you tried to address the abuses of the old testament? Which is something I have no interest in hearing about. Especially if you're going to insult you and me both by saying our brains aren't smart enough to understand. This is abuse. Mental abuse specifically when you talk down to anyone, even yourself, saying our brains are too dumb to get it. You may find words to word it nicer. Such as we are not skilled to understand. But it's essentially the same message.
Do you care at all to address what I asked about you previously mentioning evidence? I asked for you to elaborate in response to you saying "Will you accept the possibility that there could be some evidence? We're just completely separated from it." But.wince you won't, I will. All you did there was define agnosticism. Just cause it makes sense to be agnostic. Doesn't at all mean your religion is true. What matters is presentable, repeatable evidence.
Not stories about what other people hallucinated. Anyone can make up any story and they do. If this were considered evidence then all religions would be considered true. Which isn't possible as they are contradictory to each other. Therefore, personal stories aren't evidence.
Same with near death "spiritual" experience. They're just individual hallucinating nations likely caused by our brains store of DMT. Because not all NDE's are Christian and about heaven and hell. When most religious people have an NDE their hallucinations line up with their chosen religion. If God and the Bible were real and NDE's were actually spiritual. They would all line up with the one true religion. But they don't because there is no one true religion. Each and every religion is false.
"Do you mean like evidence yet to be discovered? Or do you mean this individuals memory/story is evidence?I did not intentionally ignore anything and thought I answered your questions. I am happy to discuss this with you, but please ease back a bit. I will not be insulted, especially when I genuinely tried to answer your questions and believe I did. I do not need to justify anything in the Old Testament, and I never said anything close to our brains are too small to understand. I stated coming from the position that God created everything and made a standard of living, it is up to us to live to that standard, not for God to live to ours.
History is different than science. You cannot use the same method of presentable repeatable proof. If you read extensively, there is enough evidence based on historical facts that show much of what the Bible says is true and more is discovered as time goes on. I personally do not believe in "many worlds" rather I believe there are other dimensions and we are surrounded by spiritual beings.
I do not have to prove to you my God is real. But in the same regard, you cannot prove He is not. I prefaced everything I said with "if you believe" or "if you are a believer this is why we believe what we do.
I am sorry for whatever made you so angry about religion. I answered in the most respectful way, not presuming anything about where you were coming from. If you answer I would appreciate the same consideration or this conversation is over. I do not need to be attacked on something that is sacred and special to me. All I have ever done is state what I personally believe knowing many here do not.