Why don't people ever consider nitazenes for drug-induced suicide?

[SorrowfulDrugUser]

I'm back lurking after a few years and it made me reminisce because oddly enough I came to this website to research the best ways to kill myself but instead just left feeling motivated and less alone knowing there were so many people such as myself going through the same thing at the time. I've since recovered and have been a lot better but still lurk and come back from time to time. Something I've never understood reading these complicated drug suicide methods is why not just use nitazenes? Especially if you're in the US? Nitazenes are stronger than fentanyl and are dirt cheap and there's dozens of vendors selling and shipping them throughout the US. Protonitazene, Isotonitazene, Isotonitazepyne, and more. And if you're persistent on the fact you want to die in peace and are worried about people trying to intervene; nitazenes are so strong one full box/nasal spray's worth of narcan realistically won't bring you back to life. They'd need to use multiple and in very quick and rapid succession.

Back when I was considering suicide, I would've used Fentanyl had I gone through with it as it was the strongest opioid on the market. Just buy a couple hundred milligrams and lick the baggie clean and your lights out for good. However, now if I were to decide to go through with it now I would choose nitazene pressed pills as they're even stronger. They're cheaper then Fentanyl and are more potent. Something I'd like to add is that I imagine it's a very peaceful and painless death. I've nearly nodded off to death off of a combination of benzos and opioids (a mix of Alprazolam and Hydrocodone) before. Although it was scary because I underestimated the CNS depression caused by mixing the two (I had nodded off hydros and xans separately on there own without problems up to that point) and I wasn't actually trying to commit suicide at that point but instead trying to just get high and catch a nod, you just feel incredibly sedated and heavy as your forcefully just getting more and more tired before you begin drifting off to sleep. I've also intentionally nodded off of opioids (without getting close to OD'ing) and those times too were just as amazing. My point being if you want a peaceful and non-graphic way to die IMO this would be it. Thoughts?

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

Hi, thanks for this, very interesting and informative.

I don't know anything about any of those drug's sorry, but I'm interested in learning more so wanted to comment.

I'd use fentanyl without doubt if I could get it, but I'm in the U.K. and don't have a clue how I'd get it.

I watched a murder documentary last year about a married couple who were murdered by their son in-law using fentanyl. During the investigation they ascertained that the son in-law had been sent fentanyl by someone in the US who he'd been chatting to online. He put the fentanyl in their cup of tea and evidently they both fell asleep and never woke up again.

If I could get my hands on it then this would be be my method, especially if death occurs as I've heard.

 

[froggirl9000]

we have a thread for them, tovarish.

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

we have a thread for them, tovarish.

Thanks for that, much appreciated

 

[LastNite]

After the FBI and Interpol seized the only market that sold Fentanyl. I looked into nitazenes especially Isotonitazene, but I never went through with it. I am no longer suicidal, but if I were, then I might've considered it again. One thing that concerns me is addiction. I heard some stories about people failing to die on opiates and ending up with an addiction. That is just scary asf. Also, theres barely any research on nitazenes. Theyre always talking about fentanyl. The information about it might not be that accurate.

I also came across a different kind of drug, but it was expensive. 1 thousand per gram. I dont even think there is a safe dosage for that drug. It's called carfentanil or something like that. It's not that common and you wont find it easily. I stumbled around it by accident. It was a german dude selling it. It's about 50-100 times more potent than fentanyl.

 

[SorrowfulDrugUser]

If I could get my hands on it then this would be be my method, especially if death occurs as I've heard.

It's easier than you think regardless of where you live. As long as you have the right dark web contacts you can very easily reach out to a chinese chemist (china is primarily where the nitazenes are coming from) and have him ship you a gram of isotonitazene for approx $140 including shipping. And for the record death would be certain with this drug and it would be very painless. The nod to death feels like you just nodding into a sleep but the nod is uncontrollable like an unbreakable sleepiness. Except once you fall asleep that's it.

I heard some stories about people failing to die on opiates and ending up with an addiction. That is just scary asf.

With nitazenes it's essentially impossible to come back from an OD so you don't need to worry about "failing to die". You'd need a paramedic on stand-by right next to you with 10 Narcans ready to go the moment you consume the drug if they wanted any chance to save you. Here's a fun fact regarding the current drug marketplaces listed on tor.taxi (I'm allowed to bring that up since they do in the nitazenes thread; that's not technically sourcing): DH and DM both ban Fentanyl from their markets but let nitazenes run rampant. Ironic considering they claim to do it for the health of customers.... okay lmao. It's super ironic because every fentanyl pill presser just moved to nitazenes right after because they get the customed EVEN MORE addicted and it's far stronger. I saw someone comment on the nitazenes superthread (thanks @froggirl9000 for linking that btw didnt realize we had that; good resource for noobies) that it's hard to get nitazenes but if you know the right chemists then a couple grams of nitazenes are less than 200 including shipping from china with GC/MS lab testing to prove it's the actual drug you're buying. And going back to what I said earlier; since fentanyl pill sellers were told they were going to get banned from these markets if they didn't stop selling it they just moved to nitazenes for their pills so now nitazene pressies are rampant than literally ever. 90% of the Oxycodone pressies on the DH and DM literally have nitazenes in them. Anyone telling you they're hard to source just doesn't know where they're looking.

After the FBI and Interpol seized the only market that sold Fentanyl.

Quick question was that hypothetically incog? cuz the last market that allowed fent openly I think was incog. I wouldn't honestly know though because I'm not much of an opioids guy whatsoever. I've always preferred my benzos.

 

[LastNite]

It's easier than you think regardless of where you live. As long as you have the right dark web contacts you can very easily reach out to a chinese chemist (china is primarily where the nitazenes are coming from) and have him ship you a gram of isotonitazene for approx $140 including shipping. And for the record death would be certain with this drug and it would be very painless. The nod to death feels like you just nodding into a sleep but the nod is uncontrollable like an unbreakable sleepiness. Except once you fall asleep that's it.

Don't do international shipping!!
The risk is so huge. It's never worth it.
It goes through multiple checks compared to domestic which I think doesn't?
I heard USPS uses dogs to sniff around then ships the boxes. If the guy hid the smell well then the dogs shouldn't pick up on it.

 

[SorrowfulDrugUser]

Don't do international shipping!!
The risk is so huge. It's never worth it.

It's not at all as bad as you think it is. Yes, since this isn't a domestic order you'd be taking a "larger risk" but it isn't as crazy as you think. If you're using a trusted vendor they'd ideally have good OPSEC and have an established method of getting it to your country. Don't ask how I know but methods include: using multiple layers of vacuum seal to make it K9 smell proof, adding a decoy inside the package like making it look like a baggie of plant food but inside the plant food there's a separate vacuum sealed tiny baggie with your actual powdered drugs (aka your nitazenes), etc. Another huge important thing to note regarding international shipping with drugs is it really depends on where you get it from. Countries like Germany, United Kingdom, and The Netherlands are all generally flagged as countries that are used for international drug transport (and not much else) so when you get packages from these countries the border protections are a lot more secure. However, with something like China, logistically speaking, it's one of the biggest transporters of all general goods and appliances in the world. So for the border agent to see you get a random mail envelope sent from China isn't the craziest thing... but a random envelope from the NL or Germany? You're screwed. They know all the major MDMA and Ketamine production is primarily done within the NL and Germany. If you're ever GOING to take the leap of faith and try international shipping then logistically China is your best bet because it's the least suspicious.

I heard USPS uses dogs to sniff around then ships the boxes.

Yes but going back to what I said and you said if the vendor does a good job with his OPSEC aka uses multiple layers of vacuum seal then a K9 shouldn't be a problem. Another thing to note is that USPS needs a warrant if they want to open your package. They can't just randomly open it the way UPS can.

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

Thanks for all this info guys, very much appreciated. I've got TOR so I'll have a look on DH later and check out the reviews and how to order etc. As long as the vendor has reviews by people from the U.K. then I'd be willing to take a chance and place an order. I'd also like to find some examples of people being successful using this method, just for a bit of reassurance.

 

[bruised_reed]

Anyone telling you they're hard to source just doesn't know where they're looking.

Yeah I think this is why most of us aren't doing this. I have no idea where to look.

 

[Aflame5926]

Yeah I think this is why most of us aren't doing this. I have no idea where to look.

same for me i recently saw post about it and it sound great.

but its basicly i have no clue where to look at. and also here the question will be purity

 

[LastNite]

Yeah I think this is why most of us aren't doing this. I have no idea where to look.

there's resources on here that'll teach you how to access it. If you don't understand much then ask first before taking risks like buying. Also, there is an online guide called the darknet bible. It's very helpful.