Discussion Why did some CTB trials with SN fail?

[Acritarch]

There are some CTB attempts with SN that have failed.
I would be interested in knowing what the reasons were; four reasons come to mind.

1. They were discovered too early.
2. SN was under 95%.
3. Too little SN was taken??
4. Panicked and called for help themselves.

Is it actually possible that a person, even if they follow the SN protocol and take 25g of SN (98-99%), could simply survive?Even if they are not found by anyone, but simply wake up hours later?Are there reports of such cases?

 

[dopaminedeath]

Some threads I found by google "sn failures site:sanctioned-suicide.net"

What are the main reasons of *SN* failures?

Besides being caught, found, saved and such. That intervention in the right window frame... What are the other reasons that causes CTBs with SN to drastically fail? - is your age important as well? I`ve read that your weight and height matters when it comes to the dosage of SN. Your...

sanctioned-suicide.net

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Could someone please link me the sn successes and failures doc? Search facility is not working

Could you link them here please or pm me them? Thanks x

sanctioned-suicide.net

Causes for recent SN failures posts

What is your opinion on most of the recent SN failures posted?

sanctioned-suicide.net

List of successful SN CTBs and failures

Someone posted these as a reply but I think they should be easier to find so I'm making a thread for them. Here you'll find many detailed examples of supposedly fatal and non-fatal SN attempts. The list is a few years old so they were probably buying from different sources but it's still worth...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Forever Sleep]

Other reasons quite often link to not following the protocol. Not fasting. Adding too much water, drinking alcohol or milk. Sipping at the SN mixture. Getting up and trying to walk about after taking it and being discovered.

I agree though. The scariest ones are when the protocols were followed. Although, I suspect there are fewer of them. In most cases, the person did or didn't do something slightly different to the protocol.

 

[Acritarch]

There are a lot of reports and I will read them all over the next few days.

Yes, many people panicked, took too little SN or drank too much water or didn't stick to the plan at all.
Or they were found too early.

In one report, someone drank 1.5 liters of water with the SN, which was too much.

It is interesting that there was also a report about Meto, someone took Meto as an antimetic and after 20 minutes (i.e. before taking the SN) he got pain.

 

[rozeske]

I normally take those "I took pure SN and followed protocol but walk up hours later like nothing happened" with a pinch of salt.

 

[itsneverbeenmoreove]

People survive all kinds of crazy things that make no sense. Famously there was a person who survived her plane exploding at 10,000ft over the jungle. People have survived bullets to the head, people have survived explosions. Hell, people survived fairly close to ground zero at Hiroshima. I even read about a guy who survived KCN without any treatment somehow. The fact is, sometimes crazy things happen. But more often than not it will be because of some other confounding variable.

 

[N3UR0T1C]

There are some CTB attempts with SN that have failed.
I would be interested in knowing what the reasons were; four reasons come to mind.

1. They were discovered too early.
2. SN was under 95%.
3. Too little SN was taken??
4. Panicked and called for help themselves.

Is it actually possible that a person, even if they follow the SN protocol and take 25g of SN (98-99%), could simply survive?Even if they are not found by anyone, but simply wake up hours later?Are there reports of such cases?

It's incredibly unlikely to survive 25g of SN with the full protocol. I mean, it's possible. People survive crazy shit all of the time. Realistically it is typically 1, 3, or 4 that cause the issues. Even with pretty shitty quality SN (80% even), 25g is gonna kill you.

 

[persimmon]

I normally take those "I took pure SN and followed protocol but walk up hours later like nothing happened" with a pinch of salt.

Yeah, same. The people are generally in a 'fuck it' frame of mind anyway and they don't want to be scolded on here for only doing a 20 minute fast and drinking a bottle of Jack with the SN so they'll be inclined to leave out stuff like that.

Many of us are also on long lists of medications which could affect the supplementary drugs, maybe even the SN itself.