Who Is Familiar with complex-PTSD?

[GreyMonkey]

So since this post I have been diagnosed with CPTSD..... fuck this shite is all i can say to that!!!!!!!

I think majority of people struggling with mental health issues do.

Its just a way of saying that the trauma of your childhood were greater than your ability to cope with.

Many people do to some degree or another. Probably around 40% of the population. Some people develop reasonable coping mechanisms that function will in society (workaholism, overachieving, etc) others have not as good coping mechanisms (overeating, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc).

At some point for many the coping mechanisms stop working and the pain surfaces and it is excruciating.

And the more we resist it, the more painful it is. Yet we don't know anything but to resist, that's what we have always done and the pain is unbearable.

We may find ourselves screaming for help on the inside. Helpless, hopeless, powerless. And yet noone seems able to help.

Until it becomes too much to bear and we find ourselves on here seeking the greatest relief we can conceive of.

Not saying this is true for everyone on here, yet I would wager it is most.

The desire for relief from the pain of the dysfunctional life strategies developed in childhood due to environmental failure.

None of us are bad people, we just came to believe we were as little helpless children we didn't get what we needed to thrive.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

I think majority of people struggling with mental health issues do.

Its just a way of saying that the trauma of your childhood were greater than your ability to cope with.

Many people do to some degree or another. Probably around 40% of the population. Some people develop reasonable coping mechanisms that function will in society (workaholism, overachieving, etc) others have not as good coping mechanisms (overeating, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc).

At some point for many the coping mechanisms stop working and the pain surfaces and it is excruciating.

And the more we resist it, the more painful it is. Yet we don't know anything but to resist, that's what we have always done and the pain is unbearable.

We may find ourselves screaming for help on the inside. Helpless, hopeless, powerless. And yet noone seems able to help.

Until it becomes too much to bear and we find ourselves on here seeking the greatest relief we can conceive of.

But dating this is true for everyone on here, yet I would wager it is most.

The desire for relief from the pain of the dysfunctional life strategies developed in childhood due to environmental failure.

None of us are bad people, we just came to believe we were as little helpless children we didn't get what we needed to thrive.

I am too drunk to reply properly but fuck thank you is all I can say!!

 

[MeltingHeart]

Its in the DSM V.

The ACE's study got it in there. Although that is way too simple really and doesn't, in my opinion, highlight all the pathways c-ptsd can occur.

I'm pretty sure everyone on here likely has had a significant dose of childhood trauma in some form or another. You don't become suicidal without it.

what is ACE's study?

 

[GreyMonkey]

what is ACE's study?

Adverse childhood experiences.

A study where they surveyed thousands of people about their childhood and found those that has certain markers of abuse had greater difficulties in adult life across a wide spectrum - mental illness, addiction, physical illness, etc.

 

[MeltingHeart]

C-PTSD is pretty much just a catch-all diagnosis for "pretty fucked up" -> "really fucked up" and I would venture that it actually encapsulates much of the other so-called diagnoses.

Don't get hung up on it as a diagnosis too much. It just means you had a traumatic enough upbringing to cause significant distress and difficulty coping in adulthood.

There isn't an real immediate relief from this sadly. It can't be medicated, although they'll try. Therapy needs to be largely bottom-up, ideally somatic based or NARM and even better if the therapist uses touch. And likely long term.

It's a fucking tragedy.

What people.suffering from this really need is a safe space with a lot of support, meaningful activity, connection with peers, securely attached therapy and nutritional food.


Yep this is enough to cause anyone serious distress and difficulties as an adult.

I feel for you. A lot. I'm angry that the world can do this kind of thing to people.

I have no doubt that you, and everyone who has suffered like this, are actually a lovely human being under all that toxic stress and trauma that got layed over your poor soul.

I sincerely wish there was something that I knew how to do to heal all of that.

what is NARM?

 

[GreyMonkey]

what is NARM?

Neuro-affective relational model.

Its a therapeutic model aimed specifically at resolving developmental trauma (PTSD) through a simultaneous bottom up (somatic) and top down (cognitive) process.

Its a slow grinding process yet with a skilled therapist provides the opportunity to complete and resolve the wounded child consciousness and increasingly reveal the functional adult.

 

[Misanthrope]

I think majority of people struggling with mental health issues do.

Its just a way of saying that the trauma of your childhood were greater than your ability to cope with.

Many people do to some degree or another. Probably around 40% of the population. Some people develop reasonable coping mechanisms that function will in society (workaholism, overachieving, etc) others have not as good coping mechanisms (overeating, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc).

At some point for many the coping mechanisms stop working and the pain surfaces and it is excruciating.

And the more we resist it, the more painful it is. Yet we don't know anything but to resist, that's what we have always done and the pain is unbearable.

We may find ourselves screaming for help on the inside. Helpless, hopeless, powerless. And yet noone seems able to help.

Until it becomes too much to bear and we find ourselves on here seeking the greatest relief we can conceive of.

Not saying this is true for everyone on here, yet I would wager it is most.

The desire for relief from the pain of the dysfunctional life strategies developed in childhood due to environmental failure.

None of us are bad people, we just came to believe we were as little helpless children we didn't get what we needed to thrive.

Truly brilliantly put!

 

[MeltingHeart]

Neuro-affective relational model.

Its a therapeutic model aimed specifically at resolving developmental trauma (PTSD) through a simultaneous bottom up (somatic) and top down (cognitive) process.

Its a slow grinding process yet with a skilled therapist provides the opportunity to complete and resolve the wounded child consciousness and increasingly reveal the functional adult.

interesting.

 

[Crushed_Innocence]

I think majority of people struggling with mental health issues do.

Its just a way of saying that the trauma of your childhood were greater than your ability to cope with.

Many people do to some degree or another. Probably around 40% of the population. Some people develop reasonable coping mechanisms that function will in society (workaholism, overachieving, etc) others have not as good coping mechanisms (overeating, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc).

At some point for many the coping mechanisms stop working and the pain surfaces and it is excruciating.

And the more we resist it, the more painful it is. Yet we don't know anything but to resist, that's what we have always done and the pain is unbearable.

We may find ourselves screaming for help on the inside. Helpless, hopeless, powerless. And yet noone seems able to help.

Until it becomes too much to bear and we find ourselves on here seeking the greatest relief we can conceive of.

Not saying this is true for everyone on here, yet I would wager it is most.

The desire for relief from the pain of the dysfunctional life strategies developed in childhood due to environmental failure.

None of us are bad people, we just came to believe we were as little helpless children we didn't get what we needed to thrive.

Wow. This post summed it up for me.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I think majority of people struggling with mental health issues do.

Its just a way of saying that the trauma of your childhood were greater than your ability to cope with.

Many people do to some degree or another. Probably around 40% of the population. Some people develop reasonable coping mechanisms that function will in society (workaholism, overachieving, etc) others have not as good coping mechanisms (overeating, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc).

At some point for many the coping mechanisms stop working and the pain surfaces and it is excruciating.

And the more we resist it, the more painful it is. Yet we don't know anything but to resist, that's what we have always done and the pain is unbearable.

We may find ourselves screaming for help on the inside. Helpless, hopeless, powerless. And yet noone seems able to help.

Until it becomes too much to bear and we find ourselves on here seeking the greatest relief we can conceive of.

Not saying this is true for everyone on here, yet I would wager it is most.

The desire for relief from the pain of the dysfunctional life strategies developed in childhood due to environmental failure.

None of us are bad people, we just came to believe we were as little helpless children we didn't get what we needed to thrive.

Yep- have you ever done the ACE test thing? its almost like you could deal with the same kind of trauma-later in life -that you had as a child-if you hadnt had it as a child-when yr little brain, soul and sense of self is being formed, if it was ok then - you could deal with ALOT more later on-if that makes sense.

 

[purplemoon]

PTSD is single incident trauma. Like being in a war. Being raped as an adult. Being attacked by a dog.

The symptoms include flashbacks (like planes going overhead or fireworks for a war vet), avoidance of places, triggers - like freezing and heart rate elevating everytime seeing a dog for someone who was attacked, nightmares. Stuff like that.

I think it's largely that the nervous system cannot return to equilibrium after the traumatic event and one is stuck in an elevated response or can keep being triggered into one.

C-PTSD is multi incident trauma. Largely childhood trauma where the abuse happens over a period of time and in a number of forms. Abuse can be super subtle like emotional neglect too. The symptoms are way trickier to describe yet I think it's largely aligned with having a much smaller window of tolerance - I.e. triggered into dysregulated states easier. Depression I think is a chronic dysregulated state, as is anxiety, bipolar, schzophrenia, etc.

That's what I have (CPTSD but most people don't know what it is so I just say PTSD since that is what it was originally called/majority don't know what the C is for)... it's very difficult to deal with daily.

Distraction and Amitryptiline are the only things that ever help me cope for the most part, tried every counselor and type of shrink in the book over a lifetime. Nothing ever fixes it and every additional trauma makes it even worse.

Everyone responds differently, but just remember that what they call "treatment" is made up by humans that are still trying to figure it out, it's not like there's an instant cure out there.

Being in heaven will be my cure.