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Time_To_Die

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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?
 
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HGL91

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Jul 2, 2019
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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?

So sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's super hard to get a job these days, no matter what you major in. What's your Masters in?
 
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Time_To_Die

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So sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's super hard to get a job these days, no matter what you major in. What's your Masters in?
Statistics. It's not supposed to be a super hard field to find a job in, but apparently I'm an exception.
 
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HGL91

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Jul 2, 2019
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Statistics. It's not supposed to be a super hard field to find a job in, but apparently I'm an exception.

Don't worry. It's not you. It's the economy. Jobs are scarce in general. But yes, Stats is normally a good major.
 
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Time_To_Die

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Don't worry. It's not you. It's the economy. Jobs are scarce in general. But yes, Stats is normally a good major.
Thanks for the support, but I'm not so sure that's true - that jobs are scarce. The unemployment rate is pretty low right now...
Seems like companies really just don't want to hire me... Without trying to sound melodramatic, it feels like society is rejecting me, and me killing myself is really just giving everyone what they want.
 
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HGL91

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Jul 2, 2019
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Thanks for the support, but I'm not so sure that's true - that jobs are scarce. The unemployment rate is pretty low right now...
Seems like companies really just don't want to hire me... Without trying to sound melodramatic, it feels like society is rejecting me, and me killing myself is really just giving everyone what they want.

Well, there's also the fact you're a new grad. When I started to study Nursing, I worried that it wouldn't be worth the investment because when I googled nursing jobs, every clinic and hospital wrote on the job description ***Absolutely NO new grads*** It's hard to get a job with zero work experience.
 
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Well, there's also the fact you're a new grad. When I started to study Nursing, I worried that it wouldn't be worth the investment because when I googled nursing jobs, every clinic and hospital wrote on the job description ***Absolutely NO new grads*** It's hard to get a job with zero work experience.
Yeah, that's basically it, the catch 22 of needing experience to get a job, but needing a job to get experience. Thing is, other people seem to be able to get past this hurdle, why not me? That's why I'm considering suicide.

If I may ask, how did you get your first job out of college with a nursing degree?

Thank you for replying to my thread, by the way; expressions of solidarity mean more than most people appreciate.
 
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GoingSoonish

GoingSoonish

It is what it is
Aug 19, 2018
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Does your university have a career advisor? They can give you good general advice and also help you with things like setting up your CV and giving you tips for networking. You might have to consider doing some unpaid work so that you can get some experience. If you aren't doing this already, I suggest that you broaden your net as far as possible (i.e. think of jobs where your degree is relevant in an incidental way). Did you apply for both private and public sector jobs?
 
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Does your university have a career advisor? They can give you good general advice and also help you with things like setting up your CV. You might have to consider doing some unpaid work so that you can get some experience. If you aren't doing this already, I suggest that you broaden your net as far as possible (i.e. think of jobs where your degree is relevant in an incidental way). Did you apply for both private and public sector jobs?
My career advisor helped me tailor my resume so it looks pretty and professional. My net has been cast pretty broad: As long as I have the opportunity to use some of the skills I have developed over the course of my education, I will generally apply for the job. I apply for both private and public sector jobs. The odd private sector employer will show interest, but they soon inform me that my level of experience is insufficient (as if they didn't know that already). Government jobs take forever to respond and I have to deal with the fact that I am not eligible for a lot of government hiring preferences (military veteral preference, minority preference, etc.)

I mean, if you were in my situation, I think suicide would seem pretty persuasive: I've devoted my life to academics for the sake of performing high-level statistical analysis, and now that rug is being pulled out from under me. Why should I accept a hollow existence, based on taking a job which has nothing to do with my field of study.
 
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GoingSoonish

It is what it is
Aug 19, 2018
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My career advisor helped me tailor my resume so it looks pretty and professional. My net has been cast pretty broad: As long as I have the opportunity to use some of the skills I have developed over the course of my education, I will generally apply for the job. I apply for both private and public sector jobs. The odd private sector employer will show interest, but they soon inform me that my level of experience is insufficient (as if they didn't know that already). Government jobs take forever to respond and I have to deal with the fact that I am not eligible for a lot of government hiring preferences (military veteral preference, minority preference, etc.)

I mean, if you were in my situation, I think suicide would seem pretty persuasive: I've devoted my life to academics for the sake of performing high-level statistical analysis, and now that rug is being pulled out from under me. Why should I accept a hollow existence, based on taking a job which has nothing to do with my field of study.

How many applications have reached the job interview stage? If its more than a few then it may be that your interview skills need brushing up. Is it possible to apply for roles in other countries? I hope you don't mind my responses; I thought it would be helpful to throw up some ideas about why you aren't getting a role.
 
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How many applications have reached the job interview stage? If its more than a few then it may be that your interview skills need brushing up. Is it possible to apply for roles in other countries? I hope you don't mind my responses; I thought it would be helpful to throw up some ideas about why you aren't getting a role.
I've had two onsite interviews; in general, I have no problems with the preliminary phone interviews - I demonstrate knowledge in the field sufficient to move onto the next step. It's usually the onsite interview where everything falls apart. I'm usually very nervous and I have difficulty performing at 100 percent. I feel like I don't come off very well in the onsite interviews, for some reason. I come into the interviews very well prepared, but when it comes to spontaneous questions which require ad hoc theoretical reasoning. I'm not sure how to move past this difficulty.
I've had two onsite interviews; in general, I have no problems with the preliminary phone interviews - I demonstrate knowledge in the field sufficient to move onto the next step. It's usually the onsite interview where everything falls apart. I'm usually very nervous and I have difficulty performing at 100 percent. I feel like I don't come off very well in the onsite interviews, for some reason. I come into the interviews very well prepared, but when it comes to spontaneous questions which require ad hoc theoretical reasoning, I flounder. I'm not sure how to move past this difficulty.
 
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GoingSoonish

It is what it is
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I've had two onsite interviews; in general, I have no problems with the preliminary phone interviews - I demonstrate knowledge in the field sufficient to move onto the next step. It's usually the onsite interview where everything falls apart. I'm usually very nervous and I have difficulty performing at 100 percent. I feel like I don't come off very well in the onsite interviews, for some reason. I come into the interviews very well prepared, but when it comes to spontaneous questions which require ad hoc theoretical reasoning. I'm not sure how to move past this difficulty.

There are a lot of resources online that contain information about how to handle a job interview (including the process where the spontaneous questions are asked). One good way to prepare yourself is to conduct a series of mock interviews where you have a friend or family member take on the role of the interviewer.

More generally, an option that you have is to look for an internship type of position where you work unpaid with the goal of progressing into a paid role once you have built up some experience. You can also use this to develop a reputation and network with prospective employers.

Ofcourse, all of the aforementioned is premised on the (possibly incorrect) assumption that you are willing to continue the job seeking process.
 
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At least you got your master's, that is a huge accomplishment so congratulations, even if a little late :)

The only real, fully paid job I've ever had was in a call centre. I lasted for less than a month. Been starting and quitting studies left and right. My anxiety over interviews and being ridiculed over my inexperience makes even thinking about job hunting terrifying and overwhelming.

Yes, it's a major part why I want to ctb, I feel like a total failure and a burden on society.

Oh and last time I was in an interview I got called out for blushing, and the interviewer "helpfully" told me to appear less nervous because it makes me look incompetent. Gee thanks.
 
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Misanthrope

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Oct 23, 2018
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Maybe this is relevant to you.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/you-are-not-worthless-unemployment.11143/
 
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Darkhaven

Darkhaven

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May 19, 2019
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That will soon be another factor to put me down.
I'm afraid it will be the final straw for me.
Unless i get an hail mary strike and i get one job shortly after i start to look for it.... UNLIKELY!
 
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Aug 21, 2019
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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?

I would desperately trade places with you.
 
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andy69

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May 23, 2019
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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?

I have a PhD and haven't found a job in five years. No one wants to even consider me for a job. Yes. It is a reason for me to end my life.
 
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Xaphous

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Nov 11, 2018
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Yes its part of the reason. Never had a job ever, cant find one.
 
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For sure. I kinda gave up already.
 
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oxymoron

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Jul 18, 2019
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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?
Yes. I have mdd bpd and ibs since last 11 months and I got fired yesterday. I also have tinnitus since last 8 years. I don't know what to do anymore.
 
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Wayfaerer

Wayfaerer

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Aug 21, 2019
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May I ask, what is your life situation?

What is specifically driving me to suicide? Chronic physical ailments with a cruel twist and I'm not even 30 yet. I'll just leave it at that.

Of course, I have other shit I could throw in there but that is specifically what turned me from a decade-plus passive case into an active one.
 
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Juiceisloose3

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Aug 19, 2019
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I dont want to be taken the wrong way but to hell with it. I'm gonna say it. Theres levels to this suicidal shit. If being unemployed is the biggest factor causing you to wanna ctb, then I dare say there may still be hope. At the same time I know its depressing, and depending on your individual circumstances I may be completely wrong.

But I definitely understand the self esteem part. It can be very hard.
 
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mnjkl

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You should make the most of the time that you're unemployed. I think that time is worth far more than money and some of my best memories are from times between jobs where I was free to do whatever I wanted every day.
 
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anonbpdgirl

anonbpdgirl

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Aug 31, 2019
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Having a job sucks. Like, seriously. Apart from the whole ability to pay rent and get food, it fucking sucks. It drains you of every hour of your life. You sell your labour in exchange to be alive, afford food and housing. You never get those years back. That time. The youth. It's a fucking joke.

I graduated in 2018 and spent months trying to find anything at all. I'm in a job now that doesn't even require ANY experience. I have wasted years of my life, gotten myself into crazy debt, just to be taken into a job that doesn't even ask for you to have experience in any way. And I hate the job.

I'm about to try to get a Masters, but I don't feel hopeful for my employment prospects post that. God, I want to fucking kill myself just thinking about it.

Seriously, as best you can, try to appreciate the time you have unemployed and free. It is limited and once you're in the rat race, there is no escape.
 
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Aug 26, 2019
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I went to college for business but lost my passion for it. I was doing school janitor work while going to college but to be full-time you need to be a handyman and... ya know... the teachers have to like you, so I'm dead in the water. I have no job skills, stuck in a city I don't care for, and a DMH-affiliated group does everything for me but wipe my ass. I could probably do menial labor but would much rather plot out my CTB experience.
 
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TAW122

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Aug 30, 2018
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I was in this predicament before the beginning of this year and even last year (2018). I could recall that I did not want to suffer homelessness and destitution, living life on the streets with little or no money, having to panhandle, brave the elements, defend myself against muggers/assholes who prey on the homelessness, avoiding law enforcement in anti-loitering areas and what not...

So I will answer this as in past tense, had I been homeless and unable to survive, then yeah it's likely I would have CTB to avoid living on the streets. Unemployment CAN lead to homelessness (unless you are NEET and having outside support). This is also partially why I bought my firearm back in December 2018, to prepare for the potential of unemployment and the subsequent homelessness that follows. I was also anxious in the first few weeks of my job in January 2019, (started beginning of January 2019), as I wasn't sure if I would hold on to the job or lose it quickly. Luckily I held on to it and managed to carve out a living and survive. In the future if I am unemployed and without savings or outside support, then yes CTB is an option other than suffering homelessness and dying. Perhaps if I had the means and ability to immigrate to another country outside the US (in Europe preferably), then maybe homelessness might not be as bad, but I don't know since I never lived outside the US.
 
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jrums

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Apr 14, 2019
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Got my master's three months ago, been searching for jobs for 9 months still no bites...

It takes a huge hit on your self-esteem. I feel like a totally worthless person.

Anyone else in this predicament?

I would trade places with you also. Immediately.
 
ARW3N

ARW3N

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Dec 25, 2019
402
There are just as many people who feel trapped in employment and want to get out via suicide. I personally knew someone who hanged himself in my workplace. It is a dead-end job.
 
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lotus11

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May 18, 2019
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it's definitely not the main reason for wanting to die but for sure a contributing factor. Every time I try to work I get fired for some ridiculous reason or another...peoplejust tend not to like me. Been unemployed now for months filling out long tedious application forms which take hours and hours to complete and nobody ever even looks at them
 
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