Method Whipped cream, bag and mask

[Eudaimonic]

Yes, it's basic human biology and can be most easily observed in drowning people who, while well past the "consious/unconsious" point, still try to swim and even attack rescuers, all this while holding their breath.

Instinctive drowning response - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Same with placing your hand over unconscious person face. They will fight it. Of course, if hypoxia sets deeply enough, there'll no oxygen to power the muscles so any fighting response will cease at this point.

Does this mean that using N2O to asphyxiate oneself in a bathtub (face down) would be unwise?

Edit: I don't think this response is actually an unconscious one, as the entire point is to prevent drowning when one is close to it and submersion has not yet occurred.

 

[Jadeith]

Does this mean that using N2O to asphyxiate oneself in a bathtub (face down) would be unwise?

Please elaborate. How exactly you want to proceed?

 

[Eudaimonic]

Please elaborate. How exactly you want to proceed?

My step by step plan for N20

This is my complete step by step plan that im using, feel free to critique anything. Ill be using n20 and drowning as a mixed method. Fill 5-6 thick balloons with 2 N2O chargers each (40g total, 20-30 liters), tie off. Sit in tub, full to brim—nose clipped, lean over water (4-6 inches above)...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Jadeith]

My step by step plan for N20

This is my complete step by step plan that im using, feel free to critique anything. Ill be using n20 and drowning as a mixed method. Fill 5-6 thick balloons with 2 N2O chargers each (40g total, 20-30 liters), tie off. Sit in tub, full to brim—nose clipped, lean over water (4-6 inches above)...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Seems overly complicated and failure prone to me because it all depends how well will you be sedated before actual drowning begins. As discussed above, CO2 buildup may have different responses in different people. Same goes for laughing gas. Yes, you might fall to stupor deep enough to prevent stress response or at least make it ineffective enough to stay under water. Yes, continuous N2O breathing will eventually lead to oxygen deprivation as any other asphyxiant would do. Will it be enough to keep you under water long enough to die? Simply put - i don't know. Too many variables.
Should you use N2O as exit bag filler - well, that would be far more convincing, even without constant N2O ventilation because you'd be breathing more or less normally, without water getting in all the places it shouldn't be and chances are that depending on bag size, CO2 buildup from your lungs won't be large and fast enough before N2O does it's job both in sedating and suffocating you.
Then again - "chances are". And since i'm chronic overthinker and prone to panicking, i'm not going to take any chances or as little chances as possible when it comes to my planned dying.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Seems overly complicated and failure prone to me because it all depends how well will you be sedated before actual drowning begins. As discussed above, CO2 buildup may have different responses in different people. Same goes for laughing gas. Yes, you might fall to stupor deep enough to prevent stress response or at least make it ineffective enough to stay under water. Yes, continuous N2O breathing will eventually lead to oxygen deprivation as any other asphyxiant would do. Will it be enough to keep you under water long enough to die? Simply put - i don't know. Too many variables.
Should you use N2O as exit bag filler - well, that would be far more convincing, even without constant N2O ventilation because you'd be breathing more or less normally, without water getting in all the places it shouldn't be and chances are that depending on bag size, CO2 buildup from your lungs won't be large and fast enough before N2O does it's job both in sedating and suffocating you.
Then again - "chances are". And since i'm chronic overthinker and prone to panicking, i'm not going to take any chances or as little chances as possible when it comes to my planned dying.

I see. I guess I'm fucked then since that was my only method. I can't use an exit bag because I live with my family.

 

[Jadeith]

I see. I guess I'm fucked then since that was my only method. I can't use an exit bag because I live with my family.

Not fucked. Just need to rearrange your method of choice if you need to go that badly. History teaches that human resourcefulness when it comes to killing is nearly limitless.
Besides - how come they wouldn't notice you taking prolonged bath with bunch on N2O cartridges/balloons but definitely would notice you sleeping with basically same setup but over your head?
If they are that alert, there's strong possibility that they would drag you out of the tube the moment your movement slows down or snatch your N2O source even before you take your pants off.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Not fucked. Just need to rearrange your method of choice if you need to go that badly. History teaches that human resourcefulness when it comes to killing is nearly limitless.
Besides - how come they wouldn't notice you taking prolonged bath with bunch on N2O cartridges/balloons but definitely would notice you sleeping with basically same setup but over your head?
If they are that alert, there's strong possibility that they would drag you out of the tube the moment your movement slows down or snatch your N2O source even before you take your pants off.

I was going to rent a place with a suitable bathtub. I have nowhere to store the materials and no way to transport it discreetly.

Anyway, I am not that suicidal atm, so I'm not panicked, but it is unfortunate that I have no way out.

 

[Jadeith]

Well, unless i understand something wrong (which is quite possible since english is not my prime language) - if you were going to rent a place anyway, even if for a few hours, then preparing one of more reliable methods (ventilated or unventilated exit bag) should be as viable as setting up a bath tub.