Discussion which one Is better?charchoal burning or SN.

[cctt00318]

I am thinking aboht using anesthesia before SN or charcoal burning.Is This gonna work?

 

[Alcatraz_anthrax]

the advantages of SN:
- Easily available
- No permanent damage
- Good chance of ctb

The advantages of charcoal:
- Less suffering
- Higher chance of dying than SN if done properly
- Accessible (depends where you live).

I'd recommend SN because it out-pros charcoal for me

 

[Bedrock48]

Both options are pretty good, SN is easier to prepare and execute but if done correctly I'd say charcoal might be more peaceful.

I'm personally going with charcoal, a pretty clean method with no need to injest poison. May not matter to everyone but I can choose to eat and drink before too.

 

[Freelyffe88]

I'm passionate about this one.
Initially I was all about the charcoal method (prior to joining this site and when I initially joined it). Around 2 years ago I learned about it and just figured when the time came that this was the no brainer suicide method. I was wrong. It's definitely not as easy at it initially seems. So many people attempt it and so few succeed (at least in the US that is, apparently in Asian countries they have a higher grade of charcoal that does the job). You need a copious amount of charcoal (2 goddamn bags), 2 medium sized charcoal grills or chimney starters, which requires a bunch of shit (water, bricks, metal buckets, etc, if you're in a car good luck). There's no general census as to how long you're supposed to let the charcoal burn vs when you move yourself in, but you just play around with it and feel it out I guess. Many people who attempt the charcoal route, start to feel ill and uncomfortable before they pass out, so they pull the plug on it. If you do this method, the best and easiest option by far is if you have a house. An apartment is a no go. The second best option is a vehicle as long as you know a remote location where you are guaranteed not to be interrupted. If you use a car I recommend going the 2 medium charcoal grill route. Lastly the tent method, which is not as easy it would seem. You need an exceptionally good/expensive ultra waterproof tent or else it will not work. Since you're likely going to need to use a car to carry all of the shit you need, you may as well just use the car. And lastly if this method doesn't finish you off you could end up as a vegetable.

After I realized that the charcoal method was no longer a possible/realistic option I researched further and came across the exit bag method and SN. I won't break down the exit bag method, but it seems like the second best option besides SN.

SN is by far the most ideal method to use. It's easy to get, it's relatively peaceful (it's as peaceful as Carbon Monoxide according to the PPH, but way less technical and more effective) and there is no chance of ending up like a vegetable if it fails.

Don't led the antiemetic protocol dissuade you because it's not essential to the process... you could use ginger as an antiemetic and it's just as effective and an antacid and you're good to go. This method initially seemed a little scary since most people who use this method will hurl (whether they use an antiemetic or not), but you keep a second glass ready in case this happens, which will seal it (even if you throw up your body will absorb enough). Even if you do throw up from it, it doesn't last long, most people loss consciousness in less than 1 minute from that time. This method has dozens if not hundreds of documented cases of people who have both succeeded and failed (combined, obviously more successes, but nearly all fails are interruptions). Also, nearly everyone who survived SN say that it wasn't painful. They remember losing consciousness followed by waking up in the hospital. It's pretty straight forward, the shot of SN is less than 2 ounces. It hits you in 5 minutes, you lose consciousness by 10 minutes and your typically dead after 40 minutes. Unless you can get your hands on Nembutal, SN is easily the best option. I hate puking, but on numerous occasions in my life, I've puked my guts out all night. If I can handle that I can tolerate 1 minute of puking SN/water, before losing consciousness.

 

[Bedrock48]

So many people attempt it and so few succeed (at least in the US that is, apparently in Asian countries they have a higher grade of charcoal that does the job).

This is a good point to bring up, one I forgot. Asain charcoal is what you want to be going with, if anything. Apparently its pretty hard to obtain in the US but in other countries binchotan charcoal is easier to find since its used for some cooking methods. That's what I'm using.

 

[cctt00318]

Both options are pretty good, SN is easier to prepare and execute but if done correctly I'd say charcoal might be more peaceful.

I'm personally going with charcoal, a pretty clean method with no need to injest poison. May not matter to everyone but I can choose to eat and drink before too.

Charcoal has been very popular in asian Where I am from.I wanted to use charcoal at beginning but I don't have a car and I live with my family.SN Is what I occasionally found on website,I hesitated bc It has a bad reputation on chinese internet.

I'm passionate about this one.
Initially I was all about the charcoal method (prior to joining this site and when I initially joined it). Around 2 years ago I learned about it and just figured when the time came that this was the no brainer suicide method. I was wrong. It's definitely not as easy at it initially seems. So many people attempt it and so few succeed (at least in the US that is, apparently in Asian countries they have a higher grade of charcoal that does the job). You need a copious amount of charcoal (2 goddamn bags), 2 medium sized charcoal grills or chimney starters, which requires a bunch of shit (water, bricks, metal buckets, etc, if you're in a car good luck). There's no general census as to how long you're supposed to let the charcoal burn vs when you move yourself in, but you just play around with it and feel it out I guess. Many people who attempt the charcoal route, start to feel ill and uncomfortable before they pass out, so they pull the plug on it. If you do this method, the best and easiest option by far is if you have a house. An apartment is a no go. The second best option is a vehicle as long as you know a remote location where you are guaranteed not to be interrupted. If you use a car I recommend going the 2 medium charcoal grill route. Lastly the tent method, which is not as easy it would seem. You need an exceptionally good/expensive ultra waterproof tent or else it will not work. Since you're likely going to need to use a car to carry all of the shit you need, you may as well just use the car. And lastly if this method doesn't finish you off you could end up as a vegetable.

After I realized that the charcoal method was no longer a possible/realistic option I researched further and came across the exit bag method and SN. I won't break down the exit bag method, but it seems like the second best option besides SN.

SN is by far the most ideal method to use. It's easy to get, it's relatively peaceful (it's as peaceful as Carbon Monoxide according to the PPH, but way less technical and more effective) and there is no chance of ending up like a vegetable if it fails.

Don't led the antiemetic protocol dissuade you because it's not essential to the process... you could use ginger as an antiemetic and it's just as effective and an antacid and you're good to go. This method initially seemed a little scary since most people who use this method will hurl (whether they use an antiemetic or not), but you keep a second glass ready in case this happens, which will seal it (even if you throw up your body will absorb enough). Even if you do throw up from it, it doesn't last long, most people loss consciousness in less than 1 minute from that time. This method has dozens if not hundreds of documented cases of people who have both succeeded and failed (combined, obviously more successes, but nearly all fails are interruptions). Also, nearly everyone who survived SN say that it wasn't painful. They remember losing consciousness followed by waking up in the hospital. It's pretty straight forward, the shot of SN is less than 2 ounces. It hits you in 5 minutes, you lose consciousness by 10 minutes and your typically dead after 40 minutes. Unless you can get your hands on Nembutal, SN is easily the best option. I hate puking, but on numerous occasions in my life, I've puked my guts out all night. If I can handle that I can tolerate 1 minute of puking SN/water, before losing consciousness.

thank you for your long information.Now I decided SN with Anethesia.Now I feel very confident about it.I doubted its peacefulness when I First found it online.bc in my country SN poison Is described as a really painful process.I still decide to go with Anethesia such as propofol. But I am not sure whether I will puke when I am in Anethesia.
The peacefulness of Carbon monoxide on PPH Is 8 and SN Is 7.So I guess Carbon monoxide Is a little bit better than SN in terms of peacefulness.but its undetectability Is much lower than SN and preperation Is a lot.

 

[divorceddepression]

I attempted 3 times with charcoal in my car.
I lit the charcoal in the seat beside me each time. The longest I waited in the car with the charcoal lit was an hour. I wore a medical mask the last time to prevent bigger particles from being breathed in.
I guess I give up too quick.
My more recent attempts were via partial hanging.
It's definitely a challenge to feel "death" coming and let it happen. Letting your senses fade away knowing what's coming next takes some serious fearlessness.

I attempted 3 times with charcoal in my car.
I lit the charcoal in the seat beside me each time. The longest I waited in the car with the charcoal lit was an hour. I wore a medical mask the last time to prevent bigger particles from being breathed in.
I guess I give up too quick.
My more recent attempts were via partial hanging.
It's definitely a challenge to feel "death" coming and let it happen. Letting your senses fade away knowing what's coming next takes some serious fearlessness.

Partial hanging has no prep for me so it's easy to try over and over again. It's changed my attempts away from number counting to SI battling

 

[Alwaysbadtime]

Anethesia before SN? Huh?

I would think charcoal would be better..,but waiting for it to happen...and potentially having like a fire in your car sounds fucking really shitty.

 

[Freelyffe88]

Charcoal has been very popular in asian Where I am from.I wanted to use charcoal at beginning but I don't have a car and I live with my family.SN Is what I occasionally found on website,I hesitated bc It has a bad reputation on chinese internet.

thank you for your long information.Now I decided SN with Anethesia.Now I feel very confident about it.I doubted its peacefulness when I First found it online.bc in my country SN poison Is described as a really painful process.I still decide to go with Anethesia such as propofol. But I am not sure whether I will puke when I am in Anethesia.
The peacefulness of Carbon monoxide on PPH Is 8 and SN Is 7.So I guess Carbon monoxide Is a little bit better than SN in terms of peacefulness.but its undetectability Is much lower than SN and preperation Is a lot.

I was wrong. I thought the PPH rated both methods a 7. Depending on the circumstances, in theory the peacefulness of Carbon Monoxide should be close to a 10. There should be little to no smell or taste and in theory you should eventually lose consciousness after a period of time. That's what was initially attractive about it for me. I've seen the suicide photo's in other countries, where they photograph the scene and there's just a little pot of charcoal with only a dozen charcoal bricks.

On this site there's members on a regular basis documenting their final days and their process up until they take the SN only to never be heard from again, but I don't know how many people have been suspected to have pulled off the Carbon Monoxide method on this site? There's a never ending stream of people claiming they failed at it (it is possible that those posts could be fake to dissuade people, there are people who do that shit). When I initially looked into the charcoal method, I figured that they must be covering it up, since it defies all logic why there are so few documented suicides in the US using this method (and perhaps they are). In theory this should be the #1 suicide method, so it's either a cover up or they've regulated the charcoal to the point where you have to use a truck load to get a potential lethal dose? There's some type of common CO reader (I forget what it's called) that will let you know if the CO levels are high enough to be lethal.

 

[Freelyffe88]

I attempted 3 times with charcoal in my car.
I lit the charcoal in the seat beside me each time. The longest I waited in the car with the charcoal lit was an hour. I wore a medical mask the last time to prevent bigger particles from being breathed in.
I guess I give up too quick.
My more recent attempts were via partial hanging.
It's definitely a challenge to feel "death" coming and let it happen. Letting your senses fade away knowing what's coming next takes some serious fearlessness.

Partial hanging has no prep for me so it's easy to try over and over again. It's changed my attempts away from number counting to SI battling

You're not supposed to light the charcoal in the car. You're supposed to light it outside and after 20 minutes to 2 hours (there's discrepancies as to how long it takes) when the charcoal is no longer red or on fire is when you bring it into the car (when the charcoal is grey). There shouldn't be any smoke and there should be no burning, when breathing it into your lungs. Once you bring the charcoal into the car there's discrepancy as to whether or not you leave it in first (while of course keeping everything closed up), before going in with it.

 

[Rabitfever]

I am thinking aboht using anesthesia before SN or charcoal burning.Is This gonna work?

What sort of anesthesia? How does one get it?

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

idk i'm suspicious of sn. i'm pretty sure i would become violently ill. i know people swear by it but i have bad luck and a bad GI system, so CO for me