LeavingEarly
Specialist
- Mar 19, 2022
- 376
Call China CCCP. Say you want to die and donate your items.
Anyways. I have never seen a source. I wish it was available. That is some powerful stuff.
Anyways. I have never seen a source. I wish it was available. That is some powerful stuff.
asscar.racing
Member
- Jun 12, 2022
- 25
even getting fentanyl by accident would be nice. i tried buying pressed pills for a while bc i used to live in an area where fent was VERY VERY common and somehow i never found any. very unfortunate but i guess it was just a game of chance anyway
Thing is, even with the pressed pills they would contain such small amounts of fent as the sellers don't want ro kill people. They want return custom. Its just that it's so easy to get it wrong due to it's potency so there are batches of pills that will have a sudden spurt of overdoses attributed to them. The news and media report it like its a constant thing.
As far as strong opioids go, there are quite a few potent analogues. Some more available than others. Some far stronger than fent. Butonitazene, etodesnitazene, flunitazene, metodesnitazene, metonitazene, N -pyrrolidino etonitazene, and protonitazene for example. Not all are are steonger than fent but a good few are. They were quite easy to get up until a fairly recently. I actually found a few of them in abundance on a Chinese manufacturing ebay style site. Basically all the Chinese labs would have account there selling their chems off. Unfortunately it looks like there's been a recent clean up/ban on such substances as my searches stopped bring up results there. They do still have it on there but it's not as prolific as before. They seem to be getting around it by using slightly incorrect spelling at the moment or advertising generally but leaving out the specifics in the main listing until you click through and then see it all listed. I can't say how reliable they are as I've never used them myself. I am inclined to think they're 'legitimate' sellers but these substances have been scheduled in the US now so importing them is not without its risks. I've been tempted to request somw samples as they do offer them but the risks involved with shipping put me off. I can't say I'm not still tempted though. Incidentally I browsed some darknet markets and found it there too. Again sent from China.
But yeah, basically these things exist and are obtainable it seems. We just don't know enough about them to consider them as good/reliably peaceful ways to ctb.
As far as strong opioids go, there are quite a few potent analogues. Some more available than others. Some far stronger than fent. Butonitazene, etodesnitazene, flunitazene, metodesnitazene, metonitazene, N -pyrrolidino etonitazene, and protonitazene for example. Not all are are steonger than fent but a good few are. They were quite easy to get up until a fairly recently. I actually found a few of them in abundance on a Chinese manufacturing ebay style site. Basically all the Chinese labs would have account there selling their chems off. Unfortunately it looks like there's been a recent clean up/ban on such substances as my searches stopped bring up results there. They do still have it on there but it's not as prolific as before. They seem to be getting around it by using slightly incorrect spelling at the moment or advertising generally but leaving out the specifics in the main listing until you click through and then see it all listed. I can't say how reliable they are as I've never used them myself. I am inclined to think they're 'legitimate' sellers but these substances have been scheduled in the US now so importing them is not without its risks. I've been tempted to request somw samples as they do offer them but the risks involved with shipping put me off. I can't say I'm not still tempted though. Incidentally I browsed some darknet markets and found it there too. Again sent from China.
But yeah, basically these things exist and are obtainable it seems. We just don't know enough about them to consider them as good/reliably peaceful ways to ctb.
callme
I'm a loose cannon - I bang all the time.
- Aug 15, 2021
- 1,234
Like the listings on Echemi for protonitazene? Can it be ordered over there for a as a private buyer?
Exactly like those listings yes. I don't know any specifics as i haven't tried to buy any but they claim to offer samples and apparently ship door to door on smaller orders so I was inclined to think they would sell to private buyers. They're not supposed to sell it to anyone after all, right? So a business purchasing it would just be another addition to the paper trail. I'm guessing. I don't know.
callme
I'm a loose cannon - I bang all the time.
- Aug 15, 2021
- 1,234
Yeah, too bad you have to register on behalf a company's name mandatory to buy. Especially because the price is lower than N. It's a disappointing loss. Besides they'd have to step over another boundary if the agree to conceal the package as something ordinary so they prob wouldn't do it.
The one's I'm looking at are saying "no legal issue" "guaranteed pass through customs" etc. I don't think they're quite as above board as you might expect. Bare in mind that those substances are now illegal in western countries. I haven't looked into registering. I don't know if it's necessary. Will check at some point. Tbh I think the amount they'd send as a free sample would be enough to do the job but if not you could potentially go eound the different vendors mounting up thw free samples lol. Before a couple of days ago there were absolutely loads of listings but the host market/website seem to have had a sudden clean up. Wish I'd tried to put an order in sooner.
callme
I'm a loose cannon - I bang all the time.
- Aug 15, 2021
- 1,234
I don't buy it, because they might be just saying so either as a verbal assurance or a legal requirement. Especially if importation laws are inconsistent and employed locally and enforced differently, I seriously doubt it is guaranteed. Although if they imply they do everything in their power to bypass laws, it's very welcome for our purpose.
But legally, I don't think any fent derivative is legal anywhere.
Hm yes, a lab sample should be enough, if not, line up free samples at a few different suppliers it is. Are they really free? At 10-13 $/gram and transport costs it's unprofitable it seems, but all fine if true.
Oh no, I don't buy that it's 100% guaranteed to ship through customs. I was just indicating that they're aware of the issue and are prepared to attempt some stealth shipping techniques. Indicating some acknowledgement of the illegality of it and a willingness to accommodate the needs surrounding it.
Some of the analogues are still unscheduled but generally they are illegal yes. Certainly in the US. EU has been working towards grtting ahead of newly emerging analogues (there's an almost unfathomable amount of potential new one to be made) and attacking it with a kind of blanket ban on psychoactives etc. As these are still relatively new they're probably reaching the end of their window of availability. I suspect it won't be long until they're as hard to obtain as fent.
