Discussion When you plan your ctb plan, what was the most important aspect?

[Yomyom]

For me it's peaceful, I just can't take physical pain.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I feel like Reliability should be one too. I went for Peaceful and Reliable.

I have 3 methods lined up that meet those criteria for me. I'm currently trying to recover but if this quarantine continues I may be pushed over the edge.

 

[Yomyom]

I feel like Reliability should be one too. I went for Peaceful and Reliable.

I have 3 methods lined up that meet those criteria for me. I'm currently trying to recover but if this quarantine continues I may be pushed over the edge.

I guessed that most of the methods here are reliability
But I'll add it anyway

 

[faust]

As for me, it was something more than just peacefulness, speed or availability. I selected my primary method because I wanted to travel, a kind of adventure and just to have a good time before CTB. It was like putting a dot in the end of the novel. We have a right to make our last moments worth it. In my situation it is dying without actually living so my life would have some traces of meaning. But all these things now sound impossible for me. A bit more time and I will have to cross out the primary method.

 

[Yomyom]

Just to bring the survey up
Conclusion - Peace always wins (for now at least)

 

[Notabadguy]

Peaceful, Reliable and Available.

 

[BPD Barbie]

Peacefulness and as pain free and quick as possible. I'd have taken any method as long as it offered those.

 

[Klee]

No pain, can't fail. Failing and being carted off to some hospital is my worst nightmare.

 

[muffin222]

Speed. The faster the better

 

[Weightoftheworld]

Speed. I'd gladly shoot myself but I wouldn't want my family to have to see me like that.

 

[Cancún]

mental peacefull

 

[PoisonedJuliet]

Availability. I'm not afraid of the pain. Actually looking forward to the pain if I do go through with it

 

[Cancún]

Availability. I'm not afraid of the pain. Actually looking forward to the pain if I do go through with it

then hang is the best option

 

[Yomyom]

I think the results were known in advance
Nothing can bit peaceful

 

[Despondent]

It takes a lot of mental capacity for me to care about any of them when planning ctb lol The only thing that I really care about is its reliance. Peaceful would be a bonus

 

[a.n.kirillov]

For me it's peacefulness, reliability and speed in that order, which fits N almost perfectly.

Since I'm bored:

N or S:
1. Peacefulness and Speed
2. Reliability
3.
4.
6.
7.
8.
9.
...
1508369. Availability (jk)

Hanging would be:
1. Availability, reliability and soeed
2. peacefulness
3. (not sure if peacefulness here instead)
4.

SN:
1. Availability
2. Peacefulness
3. Reliability
4. Speed

Jumping:
1.
2. Speed and reliability
3.
4. Availability and peacefulness

Shooting:
1. Speed
2. Reliability
3. Peacefulness
4. Availability

Gas (exit bag):
1. Peacefulness and Speed
2. Reliability
3. Availability
4.
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In general, there's a reliability/ peacefulness divide, that seems to depend on a person's character. The ones who place more weight on the former will more often go with something like hanging, jumping or shooting and the latter will take reliability risks by trying to OD, use car exhaust fumes or exit bags/ charcoal.

Then there's the desperate ones who cut their wrists or get drunk and swim out into the ocean at night. I would call these the mad type. Driving your car against a wall is also included in this.

 

[enjolras]

Reliability > Peacefulness > Preparation

Reliability : something "4x4 all terrain", not too sensitive to error
Preparation : I wish it vastly documented and straight-forward regarding the application. No possible loopholes all around.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Reliability > Peacefulness > Preparation

Reliability : something "4x4 all terrain", not too sensitive to error
Preparation : I wish it vastly documented and straight-forward regarding the application. No possible loopholes all around.

According to my suicidological typology, I predict your chosen methods to be hanging or N. One of those is your primary method, the other the backup.

Am I correct or should I give up my hope of ever making a career out of this D-:

 

[TowerUpright]

I'd add overcoming SI. It's why I'm here now. If I could have just not called 911 for 15 more minutes, it would have worked. Next time, it's SN, in a wooded place out of cell phone reception.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Also should be added is potential health risks in case of failure. This is why I chose N over gas.

 

[enjolras]

@a.n.kirillov I have a psychological barrier with hanging. Also I'm not manual, so I never really considered it. I would imagine it perfectly set up like you intend it to be ...like it's done on Bjork in the "Dancing in the Dark" movie, with a retractable floor, falling from high (dangerous ? you tell me), breaking the neck, medieval style ! Not glamourous ! Too violent for me (because I will NDE har har)

Primary is Switzerland, dying in the arms of Nitschke lol kidding. Yes, N. The ReBreather fiasco made me want it more. Backup is SN (I like the guarantee of a short time vs N which can have an "escaping" tail) but could become ReBreather if a lot more of reassurance was given. I now admit I'd like not to think about anything else than N. The other methods are there to calm me down about a supply mishap.
My problem is asthma (my respiratory capacity is at 60%). Therefore, I'm cautious about SN (breathlessness side effect / Propranolol unsuited) and inert gases (in theory, I could last longer with possible defensive reactions)
I'm interested in the new N from A, but waiting for clarification...

 

[bukowski]

I like the guarantee of a short time vs N which can have an "escaping" tail

Can you please elaborate?

 

[Skathon]

Availability and effectiveness.

 

[enjolras]

Can you please elaborate?

Apparently, SN is very certain within 4 hours max. With bad luck, N could take more hours (median time is 25 mins but at the extreme >2h 7-8%, >6h 3-4% >12 hours ~0.5%). Small probabilities but I'll try to let myself 1.5 days (starting at evening). I'd feel shit to win at the lottery for once. At some clinics, they monitor a fast exit and intervene if necessary.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

My first priority is reliability: that is, the plan being 100% failsafe. I don't want any possibility of being found before my bus leaves with me onboard. Because I know the pro-lifers will do everything in their power to make me as miserable as possible for even considering CTB'ing, to scare me out of ever trying it again. (For my own good, of course.)

"Peaceful" is a second priority. I want it to be painless, without a doubt. But I'm willing to put up with several minutes of physical pain if it makes the plan 100% failsafe.

 

[darkhorse256]

Availability (so I can actually do it) and reliability (so that I don't end up alive when I don't want to be). I don't really care if it's peaceful, a secondary priority would be speed so that nobody could save me or talk me out of it.