Discussion whats your opinion on NaNO2 and AlP

[Kaya]

whats your opinion on NaNO2 and AlP

 

[Unknown21]

Alp is aluminum phosphide, right?
It's a horrible way to die with tbh, i don't think it's a good idea at all, it's very fatal but also very slow and painful.
SN is much better.

 

[Intoxicated]

Alp is aluminum phosphide, right?
It's a horrible way to die with tbh

Maybe it wouldn't be so horrible with that shit ton of pills you need for optimal protocols of NaNO2 poisoning suggested on this forum.

SN is much better.

When using a right dosage, the mortality with AlP is close to 100%.

Overall mortality in cases of aluminium phosphide poisoning varies between 70–100%. It is higher in those who consume more than two tablets and none of the patients who had ingested more than 3 tablets survived

Fatal aluminium phosphide poisoning

Aluminium phosphide (AlP) is a cheap solid fumigant and a highly toxic pesticide which is commonly used for grain preservation. AlP has currently aroused interest with a rising number of cases in the past four decades due to increased use for agricultural ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For those who value reliability more than perceptions, AlP can be better.

 

[Unknown21]

Maybe it wouldn't be so horrible with that shit ton of pills you need for optimal protocols of NaNO2 poisoning suggested on this forum.

When using a right dosage, the mortality with AlP is close to 100%.

Overall mortality in cases of aluminium phosphide poisoning varies between 70–100%. It is higher in those who consume more than two tablets and none of the patients who had ingested more than 3 tablets survived

Fatal aluminium phosphide poisoning

Aluminium phosphide (AlP) is a cheap solid fumigant and a highly toxic pesticide which is commonly used for grain preservation. AlP has currently aroused interest with a rising number of cases in the past four decades due to increased use for agricultural ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

For those who value reliability more than perceptions, AlP can be better.

Look, I'm one of those people whose top priority is, and always will be, reliability, but aluminum phosphide is not a good way to die. Firstly, it is very painful, causes internal bleeding, and has corrosive properties, so it will rupture your entire intestines and digestive system. Secondly, it causes suffocation. This could make you seek help and then live disabled or with damage to an important vital organ. As for complementary medicines, I don't think they will do much.

 

[Intoxicated]

Firstly, it is very painful, causes internal bleeding, and has corrosive properties, so it will rupture your entire intestines and digestive system.

I can imagine how badly it can hurt in the stomach, since AlP violently reacts with water. I'd probably consider inhaling H3P similarly to H2S as an alternative to using my own stomach as the reaction chamber for AlP + H2O, although this wouldn't be easy either since the mixture of phosphane and diphosphane produced via hydrolysis of AlP is pyrophoric and can ignite at room temperatures. H2S poisoning appears to be more simple and reliable.

This could make you seek help and then live disabled or with damage to an important vital organ.

If ingestion of high doses of AlP is as deadly as I think, any help is likely to be unsuccessful at saving the life.

 

[lastboyscout]

and by inhalation?

 

[schrei_nach_liebe]

I'd probably opt for NaN3 before AlP

 

[lastboyscout]

bought the AIP today for 18 euros so i started testing it . first 30 min just felt a little bit warmer and a light skin burn and after 1h, the air seems more heavy or maybe thats only my psychologic ....in utube they were putting 1 tablet for 1 mole hole with no water so im not using water . i just putted 5 tablets in a cup next to me. Anyone knows if im doing right? im in a 5x3 closed room.
i would like to avoid eating ... 5 years ago i had acute pancreatitis by drinking a full bottle of very strong home made alcool and the pain in stomach was so much hard that i still remember it and honestly i would like to not feel it again

 

[Intoxicated]

in utube they were putting 1 tablet for 1 mole hole with no water so im not using water . i just putted 5 tablets in a cup next to me. Anyone knows if im doing right?

I think, without abundant moisture PH3 would be produced rather slowly. On the other hand, mixing AlP with too much water is dangerous because of a possible ignition of P2H4. So I'd advise to find a good balance.

 

[lastboyscout]

i should have c

I think, without abundant moisture PH3 would be produced rather slowly. On the other hand, mixing AlP with too much water is dangerous because of a possible ignition of P2H4. So I'd advise to find a good balance.

yeah just the AIP didnt work. just left a bad smell in the room , wish i had learned chimestry instead of accounting