What's the most out of touch thing a pro lifer has ever said to you?

[Moon Flower]

My ex told me today that suffering is part of the human experience which on it's own is fairly logical and not out of touch, but then he proceeded to say "If you suffer 10 hours but smile and laugh at least once at the end of it doesn't it make that worth it? I think if you can still smile you're not really suffering so badly that you can't continue"

 

[NotMeant2B]

Short answer to his question: No, it doesn't.
People always makes a excuse to keep on living because they don't know how to die without suffering, they're afraid of death just because they have not experienced it first hand, they don't want to leave behind everyone else. And it doesn't have to be like that. We can learn how to have a peaceful and dignified death; we can get usted to the idea of non existence, which is previous to when we were born; we may even develop a deeper appreciation for the ones we have around, knowing they can be gone by any other day, and that we need them around when we want to go. We need a culture that is accostumed to the idea of suicide, giving it the proper attention that it needs. Why do we have to keep prolonging a life we don't want to be in?

 

[Jean4]

My ex told me today that suffering is part of the human experience which on it's own is fairly logical and not out of touch, but then he proceeded to say "If you suffer 10 hours but smile and laugh at least once at the end of it doesn't it make that worth it? I think if you can still smile you're not really suffering so badly that you can't continue"

Tell your ex to live with the PTSD from 9/11 and 9/11 related illnesses for one day. I don't think he would last the day.

 

[1DayItWillBover]

Probably would have told him that was the dumbest shit someone has every said to me.

 

[porfin1234]

People that talk about suicide don't normally do it.

 

[TowerUpright]

People that talk about suicide don't normally do it.

(Sarcasm)
Oh, boy! That means I have no obligation to listen to you, suicidal person, and I'm absolved from and responsibility of actions you might take!!
(/Sarcasm)

 

[porfin1234]

(Sarcasm)
Oh, boy! That means I have no obligation to listen to you, suicidal person, and I'm absolved from and responsibility of actions you might take!!
(/Sarcasm)

he changed his mind a year later
I had horrible breakdown this past year and he ended up calling cops on me twice lol
I think because he was worried I would hurt someone else (told him about wanting to jump in front of car) and also that he would be liable if I died

 

[ShadowChild]

My ex told me today that suffering is part of the human experience which on it's own is fairly logical and not out of touch, but then he proceeded to say "If you suffer 10 hours but smile and laugh at least once at the end of it doesn't it make that worth it? I think if you can still smile you're not really suffering so badly that you can't continue"

"Suicide is selfish"
Probably the single most dumb thing iv heard.
I proceeded to lecture them about why saying that is ACTUALLY selfish and they had nothing to say back to that.
Another..hmmm there was a story in the news about some guy who threw himself off a building. But Deborah know best of course. "He wasn't depressed because he's smiling in the picture from 2 days prior"

"Suicide is selfish"
Probably the single most dumb thing iv heard.
I proceeded to lecture them about why saying that is ACTUALLY selfish and they had nothing to say back to that.
Another..hmmm there was a story in the news about some guy who threw himself off a building. But Deborah know best of course. "He wasn't depressed because he's smiling in the picture from 2 days prior"

You know you open up to someone and they want to know exactly how you're feeling and their immediate go to is to berate you and call you selfish. Like..yeah thankssss for that I'm glad I spoke to you that REALLLY helped "mate"

 

[AintNoWayOut]

barely even have words for how stupid that is. shouldnt it be common sense that when the negative vastly outweighs the positive that your overall mood will be... negative? just really dumb and out of touch.

 

[AlreadyGone]

"Every life is a life worth living"......

 

[Bandzbandz]

My ex told me today that suffering is part of the human experience which on it's own is fairly logical and not out of touch, but then he proceeded to say "If you suffer 10 hours but smile and laugh at least once at the end of it doesn't it make that worth it? I think if you can still smile you're not really suffering so badly that you can't continue"

Was he listening to Jordan Peterson at the time? Sounds like something only he would say. While I do agree with that statement, I think if you can improve your condition, or make your "suffering" more bearable by excluding certain people from your life, or making it disappear completely by ctbing, then you have the right to do so and should do for your own sanity (or lack thereof if you pass).

 

[S1mpleme]

My ex told me today that suffering is part of the human experience which on it's own is fairly logical and not out of touch, but then he proceeded to say "If you suffer 10 hours but smile and laugh at least once at the end of it doesn't it make that worth it? I think if you can still smile you're not really suffering so badly that you can't continue"

Yeah, sometimes I hear that from others. When I sick or feel any pain, they say that that's not too painful cause I can handle it. How on earth they know what I feel and if that's extremely painful, do I have a choice? That's not up too me, just a signal to my brain that makes me suffer. People say a lot of bullshit and don't even realize that.

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

From religious people, remember Job and what he went through. There was also another one like he only gives us what we can handle. I'm like how the hell is that real

 

[voyager]

Well, I've read some pretty stupid things online and have heard a few bad one's personally, but I think the worst one was "oh, come on, it wasn't all bad, you've had some good times since".

 

[BabyYoda]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/story-reaching-out.29790/

From religious people, remember Job and what he went through. There was also another one like he only gives us what we can handle. I'm like how the hell is that real

My mom used to tell me this :(

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

Deborah know best of course. "He wasn't depressed because he's smiling in the picture from 2 days prior

LMFAO. Those people don't know what depression is.

 

[passenger27]

"You should be over it by now."

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

"[People need to just] Let things get better, things just tend to get better."

I get trying to be positive, I'm part of a huge positivity based hippie community. However, no Frank..things just don't always get better.

 

[ShadowChild]

"[People need to just] Let things get better, things just tend to get better."

I get trying to be positive, I'm part of a huge positivity based hippie community. However, no Frank..things just don't always get better.

Positive thinking only goes so far like if you just believe things will get better then the problem is you're putting all of your faith into the universe coming through for you and a lot of the time it won't, because you are simply trusting a hypothesis and when things don't change your faith eventually snaps and you're back to square one except you're older and with less faith than you had originally. That's my problem with positive thinking.

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

Positive thinking only goes so far like if you just believe things will get better then the problem is you're putting all of your faith into the universe coming through for you and a lot of the time it won't, because you are simply trusting a hypothesis and when things don't change your faith eventually snaps and you're back to square one except you're older and with less faith than you had originally. That's my problem with positive thinking.

I understand what you mean completely. I am naturally a very positive person when I'm not sick so I try to maintain it when I fall ill if possible. I'm all for trusting in the universe that things will work out for the best, putting it positivity, good energy, etc..but at the end of the day if you want something you have to help manifest it. The universe isn't just going to hand you everything good, some people seriously don't get that. Then of course there are the very appropriate times to be hesitantly positive/realistically positive about things.

 

[Cutepoison]

"Every life is a life worth living"......

Fucking bullshit. How fucking hypocritical!
I think for me the most out of touch thing - my mum says I'm cruel when I say i want to die. Wtf?!? I asked her, if i had leukemia, would she also call me cruel?
That's the messed up thing about depression. It's terminal, it kills you slowly. Sure, some get out of it, and good for them, but I'm at a point in my life where I don't even want to "get better". I want out. Thanks, I tried living but not a big fan.

 

[TAW122]

"There is more to life than (insert whatever thing)." and "You are more than just (insert whatever thing)." where (insert whatever thing) can refer to hobbies, interest, ability, or activity.

That is some of the most inane and stupidest remarks I have ever heard. I just want to barf when I hear that!

Pro-lifers just have no concept of suffering and/or they are too cruel to even consider that sometimes death is sometimes a relief from all the suffering. It's like they enjoy suffering and think that 'life is worth it' despite all the negatives that come with it and want to project their views onto everyone else.

 

[Quarky00]

"You have a great future ahead!"

 

[I’vehadenough]

"You have a great future ahead!"

Lol! A good future of having to relay on drugs to make you feel better about your fucked up life until you die...no thanks
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Lol. Uh no, it's a permanent solution to a permanent problem and that sounds good to me!

 

[Crushed_Innocence]

"ITS NOT TOO LATE" Im 40. Over 100 pounds overweight, have only high school diploma, no social life, no family, no job, criminal record, never mastered any of my gifts or talents.

HA! these muthafukkas are a joke. No I will not lower my standards. I choose death

 

[Broken Chimera]

Them: It can't be that bad. Smile.
Me: (If looks could kill.)

 

[littlelady774]

"Suicide is murder"
"People who kill themselves are cowards"

 

[WhyIsLife56]

My mom tells me "that's life"
You know what else happens in life?
Death

So yeah that's life ;)

 

[Untitled]

From religious people, remember Job and what he went through. There was also another one like he only gives us what we can handle. I'm like how the hell is that real

Classic religious answer.

Job said again and again that he wish he had never been born. Even his wife advised him to curse God and die.

If God didn't repay him, he probably would have been on this forum with us, trying to figure out how to CTB.

 

[PDAnnie2610]

That I should consider how my parents would feel had I chose death.

I didn't experience their consideration when they left me alone to deal with being molested as a kid at 9 years old though. Nor did I experience any consideration for how I feel when he insinuated that I deserve to be bullied in school as an 11 year old.