Discussion What would you choose, SN or inert gas?

[meideprac]

It's relatively easy to get SN and the drugs needed for protocol in my country.
99% of helium is even easier to get.
Which method do you think is better for CTB?
What is the reason for that?

PPH is giving higher marks to inert gases, but I think I'm more likely to utilize SN in this forum.

 

[ReturnToVega]

Lucky, I wish it were easier in my country. And probably SN, sounds like less of a hassle.

 

[meideprac]

Lucky, I wish it were easier in my country. And probably SN, sounds like less of a hassle.

But SN protocols prepare a lot. Inert gases, on the other hand, only gas, hoses and secret bags are needed. No protocol is needed. But is SN a better option?

 

[kabuto43]

Inert gas is absolutely way better without any doubt it's literally the best and most peaceful method there is if done properly u just drift to sleep without feeling a thing

 

[MyShadow]

The inert gas method seems more peaceful but to do it properly, there's a lot of preparation. You have to acquire, assemble and test your equipment before you finally follow through with your exit. We're talking about weeks of preparation.

Then, there's the expense. I have been following multiple people who are using/have used this method and they've spent upward of $1,000US+.

 

[meideprac]

Inert gas is absolutely way better without any doubt it's literally the best and most peaceful method there is if done properly u just drift to sleep without feeling a thing

Right? I've been thinking between SN and inert gas. Thank you.

The inert gas method seems more peaceful but to do it properly, there's a lot of preparation. You have to acquire, assemble and test your equipment before you finally follow through with your exit. We're talking about weeks of preparation.

Then, there's the expense. I have been following multiple people who are using/have used this method and they've spent upward of $1,000US+.

Helium is cheaper than SN where I live, so inert gas would be a better option.

 

[Zerengin96]

If i could get my hands on SN, i would probably chose that, even though its more uncomfortable then inert gas

 

[Galahad]

It's relatively easy to get SN and the drugs needed for protocol in my country.
99% of helium is even easier to get.
Which method do you think is better for CTB?
What is the reason for that?

PPH is giving higher marks to inert gases, but I think I'm more likely to utilize SN in this forum.

My preferred method for some time has been nitrogen gas. Helium is regulated here (no pun intended) but I can easily buy 99.9% nitrogen and argon.

I also favour CO but I can't get sulphuric acid as it's heavily controlled here.

SN would be a much easier method if I could aquire it and the other drugs for the protocol.

I would favour CO over inert gas since 1% means an oxygen nasal tube is sufficient rather than the exit bag.

 

[outrider567]

Inert Gas

 

[peanutsandjelly]

My first preference was for inert gas but it seems hard to get right. Any little bit of CO2 seems to cause suffocation but there are accessible devices that can be coopted to do exactly that.

It's just a high risk, high reward method.

 

[RoseGirl]

sodium nitrite so i can cuddle blahaj into the other side

 

[woofwag]

I got SN very cheap online. Hoping to get meto too, but that's been more difficult. Inert gas is quite expensive where I live actually. And hard to compile all the materials, probably as much if not less so than gas. I also realized I'd rather not go out with a bag over my head. The mask seems ok maybe... but there's a much higher chance of ripping it off. Now there is also that chance of vomiting up the SN. But I think I could prevent that with meto and benzos. I do have a sleeping aid already, it's not a benzo but it does knock me tf out so I think I could take double dose of that and have it be as painless as gas. Tbh ideally is N. Just crazy expensive. I know how to get it, but most sources are like $900+ which is wayyyyy out of my price range. Oh well. In another life that's how I go ig.

 

[flutebloom]

I think a benzo + SN is a good combo. That's how I'd want to go.

Inert gas would be ideal if it wasn't so technical and expensive. I just don't have the energy to do it.

 

[Wishingforadream]

I would prefer inert gases. But the price of helium or nitrogen where I live is just too expensive combined with buying equipment, assembling and wasting gas during tests.

Buying SN and meto with shipping costs is still far cheaper than inert gases.

 

[thedarkdog]

My first preference was for inert gas but it seems hard to get right. Any little bit of CO2 seems to cause suffocation but there are accessible devices that can be coopted to do exactly that.

It's just a high risk, high reward method.

Yeah exactly, I looked into it to but I'm a clumsy af person, I'm glad I can tie my shoes. I never managed anything in arts and crafts class in school or ergo therapy in the psych ward so the handiwork required just doesn't seem doable to me.

SN seems much easier but I searched far and wide and didn't find a source. Since it has no recreational value it's also not on Dark Net Markets.

Instead I'm planning on a cocktail of Diazepam, Phenobarb and alcohol + anti emetics beforehand. Just have to wait until the stuff arrives (IF it arrives and I haven't been scammed)

 

[Hiro Uchiha]

If I had unrestricted access to both, Inert gas or maybe even CO for that matter. BUT the cost, preparation, space needed, availability of components/ingredients, are the determining factors I'm going with SN.

 

[Eclypser]

It's relatively easy to get SN and the drugs needed for protocol in my country.
99% of helium is even easier to get.
Which method do you think is better for CTB?
What is the reason for that?

PPH is giving higher marks to inert gases, but I think I'm more likely to utilize SN in this forum.

I've arranged both. Until November, I had only considered the inert gas, helium. I bought everything I needed, including the O2 detector. The test went well, even with a disposable balloon cylinder. Concerns about the lack of a flowmeter, the amount delivered by the regulator, its effective duration, and possible leaks from the extension tube led me to choose SN >99%. As soon as it arrived, I opened a 100g bag to test it, with both strips and blood, and the results were excellent. I'll keep the gas as a backup, but since December, I've been convinced that the SN protocol, if performed methodically, is currently the best option.

 

[Hellis]

Inert gas. I always think back to Vizzy who had both available but went with SN since he wrote the the SN bible, but then went to inert gas once SN wasn't peaceful enough.

 

[gasforme]

inert gas for me. I have been collecting links to every news and thing I can find about successful cases with nitrogen to try to assure myself that it will work

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Inert gas. Nitrogen. I've been told it is in fact euphoric. I bought SN to have as backup just in case, but it sounds like an unpleasant way to die, that's why it's my plan B.

 

[Eclypser]

Inert gas. I always think back to Vizzy who had both available but went with SN since he wrote the the SN bible, but then went to inert gas once SN wasn't peaceful enough.

Really interesting! But I'd like to understand how we know he used N2 for adverse effects with SN. Sorry, I'm quite new here and English is not my native language

 

[gasforme]

Really interesting! But I'd like to understand how we know he used N2 for adverse effects with SN. Sorry, I'm quite new here and English is not my native language

There was a news article showing the same setup in Thailand where you can see his hood. To me it seems like he did both to be extra sure.

Vizzy?

Is Vizzy still here??....my oh my. I'm about to cry...

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[Eclypser]

There was a news article showing the same setup in Thailand where you can see his hood. To me it seems like he did both to be extra sure.

Vizzy?

Is Vizzy still here??....my oh my. I'm about to cry...

sanctioned-suicide.net

If he was alone, I also believe it was the desire to hit the target 100% and in the shortest time possible, also to avoid an unwanted rescue

 

[gasforme]

If he was alone, I also believe it was the desire to hit the target 100% and in the shortest time possible, also to avoid an unwanted rescue

There was an earlier post of his that he basically sold all his stuff and went all in

Failed ctb using nitrogen exit

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