Discussion what would it take for you to not want to ctb?

[vulkann]

if you could create a utopia for yourself what would it look like? or is living painful no matter the circumstances?

I feel like no amount of money or changes to society would end my suffering.

 

[Vizzy]

if you could create a utopia for yourself what would it look like? or is living painful no matter the circumstances?

I feel like no amount of money or changes to society would end my suffering.

Nothing can be done it's too late, I just wanna ctb and be free!

 

[InTheDarkAlone]

if you could create a utopia for yourself what would it look like? or is living painful no matter the circumstances?

I feel like no amount of money or changes to society would end my suffering.

Well, I botched my go at life as much as it was ruined for me, so nothing.

 

[ger3172]

a few years ago id definitely say real love, but at this point im so damaged and traumatized i think not even that is gonna fix anything

 

[Deleted member 60002]

A job that I enjoy which also allows me to make a positive difference in the world. Also, I would like to live comfortably and not have to worry about bills. It would be nice to be able to go on vacation every year as well.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

A job that I enjoy which also allows me to make a positive difference in the world. Also, I would like to live comfortably and not have to worry about bills. It would be nice to be able to go on vacation every year as well.

Very similar here! I'm with you!

 

[EternalDaydreaming]

My friends would have to descend from heaven for me to not go I'm just bidding my time rn

 

[TheHuman]

if you could create a utopia for yourself what would it look like? or is living painful no matter the circumstances?

I feel like no amount of money or changes to society would end my suffering.

The perfect utopia would be one where the irs is gone, end of story. Perfect world with 0 flaws!

 

[random123kid]

Shitload of money will make me completely abandon the idea of ctb. Like 10 million dollars will work.

 

[LittleJem]

imagine no mental illness

then remember the limitations of psychiatry

oh

 

[LongingForRest]

For my Tinnitus to not be so loud that it intrudes on every aspect of my life, the biggest detriment being to my sleep.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Shitload of money will make me completely abandon the idea of ctb. Like 10 million dollars will work.

I'm with you!

 

[Robineas]

Ironically if I was to get hold of N, I would feel a reassurance that I was able to go peacefully when I wanted to, and that would make living with my condition easier.

 

[outrider567]

Nothing on Earth

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

nothing really

 

[deomlez]

Nothing

 

[GasMonkey]

A young GigaChad body with optimal health and enough money to live without working.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me existing is completely undesirable and unnecessary no matter the circumstances, I don't see any value in being conscious and aware, trapped inside a decaying flesh prison as to me having awareness just leads to suffering. I only wish for the ideal state of non-existence where everything is finally forgotten about, I see existence as just being a tragic disturbance in what would otherwise be the perfect state of not-being, I personally see no point to existing, having to endure existence could never be for me.

 

[Rumi]

A young GigaChad body with optimal health and enough money to live without working.

A jacked body is honestly not that difficult to get. It usually takes 12-18 months for people to see the results they want.
I would be content if I could support myself on a minimum wage, or near minimum wage job without having to worry about rent or groceries, or relying on the government.

It would also have to easy and not involve too much social interaction. There are very few jobs that fit these requirements though.

Ive given up on friends and an intimate relationship, as Im not sure I need them, and there is no shot that I will get them anytime soon anyway.

I would be perfectly content to live the live of a recluse outside of an 8 hour work day, and spend by free time on hobbies, but people expect more of me than that.

 

[GasMonkey]

A jacked body is honestly not that difficult to get

Getting muscles doesn't transform you into a chad, to be a chad you need the genetics of a chad.
There are chads drowning in pussy without having touched a weight in their life.

 

[Rumi]

Getting muscles doesn't transform you into a chad, to be a chad you need the genetics of a chad.
There are chads drowning in pussy without having touched a weight in their life.

I assumed that you wanted a better body for the sense of achievement it would give you. That was my goal when I used to lift.

 

[Valky]

Damn, that is a really, really hard question.

 

[deomlez]

In phase with you ! Except of having this type of job, mine is perfect for my expectations.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't have enough energy to imagine a utopia that would work to be honest. My mind is probably too polluted with capitalism and practicalities. I think a whole re-design of life would need to be in order though- to ensure a lot less suffering for all.

I don't know really- it's hard to imagine an existence where living things don't prey on and exploit other living things. For a start- this is utopia- so- death needs to be abolished. Can't have living entities being euphoric to be alive and then- dead the next moment. But if nothing dies- it's going to get overcrowded pretty soon. Perhaps it should be more brief than that though- everyone should be able to live their absolute best lives for a short period and then- everything dies at once- peacefully and without knowledge of it approaching.

It's all well and good to imagine utopia's but it's harder when you think about how they could actually work.

I guess as an image though- I imagine that scene in Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory- with a beautiful landscape where everything is made of sweets. (So long as you didn't get fat.) With animals wandering about as well- where they were all tame. Sonething out of a fairytale where there weren't any worries or responsibilities and everyone could do what they wanted (so long as it didn't hurt others.)

 

[Andarosh]

If only I would be able to fix my one and only dearest friendship that I destroyed almost a year ago, something for which I am sad almost every day. Because of that I am afraid of making friendships, as I see myself as a monster.

 

[ringo99]

Being born to a family that's not completely dysfunctional

 

[jonward55]

£50,000

 

[highjumping]

if you could create a utopia for yourself what would it look like? or is living painful no matter the circumstances?

I feel like no amount of money or changes to society would end my suffering.

if my friends were still alive and someone would love me truly
but it's never gonna happen

 

[MyLifeisHell]

To restart life as a neurotypiical.

Getting muscles doesn't transform you into a chad, to be a chad you need the genetics of a chad.
There are chads drowning in pussy without having touched a weight in their life.

Yeah there's no exercise to grow taller or fix your face...

 

[chloramine]

I don't know that anything would instantly work because it's so ingrained at this point. To give myself the best chance at recovery having a close group of safe trusted friends, a simpler life where I work a meaningful job that helps people but I don't have to deal with bureaucracy or all the stops little tasks that pop up all the time and not having to worry about money. I don't know if that'd work. I suppose something like superpowers would be cool too but presuming we're not going into sci fi fantasy stuff then that's the best I can come up with.