What psychologist dont understand is that i have an objectively shit life

[couldntthinkofaname]

its not just my perceiption

me taking ssri is nothing else then an alcoholic who drinks to cope with homelessness

doesnt change the situation and the cause but helps to numb yourself

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

can we move this to offtopic?

 

[RacilyDank]

I agree. If your wanting to ctb is due to shitty life circumstances that you feel can't be overcome then pills aren't going to help.

This is why I'm hesitant about going to see the psych tomorrow. When I got referred things weren't this bad, I just felt bad. It takes so long to get an appointment by the time you get seen everything is ten times worse.

 

[Nightmare]

que sad...

 

[Slayer]

Same for me. I'm on anti depressants but they don't fix the problem (I have no skills and I'm unemployable).

 

[Arvinneedstodie]

Exactly! I'm sure anti depressants are helping and have helped many people, but not for people like me. I am depressed and suicidal because of long term/ permanent circumstances. I am unattractive, unhealthy, and broken in many ways. I am actively trying to improve myself, but at the end of the day, genetics are genetics, and no amount of anti depressants can change that fact. This is why every country should follow some European countries' lead, and legalize assisted suicide as an option for all long term mental, and physical health sufferers. To think that i have to go through the painful and difficult process of killing myself just makes me want to cry, every time.

 

[RevolutionaryRed]

Im on anti depressants. If my life wasn't shit, I could see them working for me. But I'm near homelessness, thousands of dollars in debt and live in a town with very little opportunities. These pills don't change that fact, it just makes...... idk actually

I don't know how I feel most the time . I'm suicidal, but then again I'm probably not. But I'm probably gonna ctb

 

[Red star]

Exactly! This is why every country should follow some European countries' lead, and legalize assisted suicide as an option for all long term mental, and physical health sufferers. To think that i have to go through the painful and difficult process of killing myself just makes me want to cry, every time.

Holy shet! I didn't know there's a legal assisted suicide for long term mentally ill patients :o can you imagine that as a reality for us? Wow. That would change everything. But I dunno if I'd want to give away the control because there's still a certain way I want to die. If they straight up gave me the pills I need though that would be fabulous haha

 

[WastedPotential]

It's not that psychologists, psychiatrists, or any other health professional for that matter, don't understand it. What happens is that when they agree with you, they cannot let you know it. I'm pretty sure that some of them would have wanted to kill themselves if they had the life of some of their patients, but they are not allowed to say something like "yeah, it's true, your life is so fucked up that if I were you I would probably have killed myself a long time ago."

Even though I am not a health professional, I would probably never tell someone that the best thing for them is indeed to kill themselves, except maybe in extreme cases, like the one from the movie The Sea Inside. However, I know very well that I would have killed myself in situations that are far less extreme than that. Does that makes me a hypocrite? The answer is: maybe—it's not that simple.

The reasons that prompt people to end their lives are naturally different for each person, so this is hardly an objective matter. For instance, the reasons why I decided to kill myself would probably not be enough for many people here, and I'm sure that I would not feel like killing myself either for the reasons that make some of you want to do it.

I might understand someone else's reasons and be empathetic to them, but their problems would probably have a different effect on me. For this reason, I wouldn't feel comfortable telling them that they are right about wanting to end their lives, and I don't feel like I am being hypocritical for that: simply trying to put myself on their shoes is not enough when it comes to a life-ending, irreversible, decision.

Telling people why we think they should try to keep going with their lives is much easier: the decision to stay alive is always a reversible one.

Health professionals are humans like the rest of us, so, regardless of their professional responsibilities, it is not unreasonable to think that thoughts like these might go through their mind too. Their position is not an easy one: they cannot say they agree with you that your life is a shit even if they do, and they can't change the circumstances of your life either, so all they can do is try to make you cope with everything, and sometimes it means making you numb.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

im raging hard right now


even if my life would be miracly fixed these days i dont know if i could continue with all that shit that happened in the past

probably but it would be very painful


edit: in such a case a psychologist would be actually helpful

 

[itsallover]

I had a psychologist try to tell me that I have to try and accept my new normal and appreciate the things that I still can do. It is a struggle to make it through each and every day as I self-medicate the shit out of myself just to cope. I have never had a drug or alcohol problem before this. I am going to a surgeon this Wednesday and I'm just going to be flat out with him. Offer me something no matter how invasive because I refuse to live this way much longer. I am not accepting my "new normal". I am not going to go from someone who worked two jobs and partied even harder to a house rat for the rest of my life. Also, the best I ever felt in my life was when I was a complete health nut that was always in the gym. No SSRI can replicate that.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

I had a psychologist try to tell me that I have to try and accept my new normal and appreciate the things that I still can do. It is a struggle to make it through each and every day as I self-medicate the shit out of myself just to cope. I have never had a drug or alcohol problem before this. I am going to a surgeon this Wednesday and I'm just going to be flat out with him. Offer me something no matter how invasive because I refuse to live this way much longer. I am not accepting my "new normal". I am not going to go from someone who worked two jobs and partied even harder to a house rat for the rest of my life. Also, the best I ever felt in my life was when I was a complete health nut that was always in the gym. No SSRI can replicate that.

what happened?

 

[Shay]

I had a psychologist try to tell me that I have to try and accept my new normal and appreciate the things that I still can do. It is a struggle to make it through each and every day as I self-medicate the shit out of myself just to cope. I have never had a drug or alcohol problem before this. I am going to a surgeon this Wednesday and I'm just going to be flat out with him. Offer me something no matter how invasive because I refuse to live this way much longer. I am not accepting my "new normal". I am not going to go from someone who worked two jobs and partied even harder to a house rat for the rest of my life. Also, the best I ever felt in my life was when I was a complete health nut that was always in the gym. No SSRI can replicate that.

That must be the catch phrase of everyone. I've heard it from friends and therapists! Everyone wants me to live so they tell me this is the "new normal". That's not a good enough answer and it's enraging. I don't want the new normal otherwise I wouldn't be planning to kill myself

 

[ion900]

I had a psychologist try to tell me that I have to try and accept my new normal and appreciate the things that I still can do. It is a struggle to make it through each and every day as I self-medicate the shit out of myself just to cope. I have never had a drug or alcohol problem before this. I am going to a surgeon this Wednesday and I'm just going to be flat out with him. Offer me something no matter how invasive because I refuse to live this way much longer. I am not accepting my "new normal". I am not going to go from someone who worked two jobs and partied even harder to a house rat for the rest of my life. Also, the best I ever felt in my life was when I was a complete health nut that was always in the gym. No SSRI can replicate that.

Yes, I agree. My metabolism is wrecked and this is why I cannot work out. Did you have an injury?

 

[itsallover]

Yes, I agree. My metabolism is wrecked and this is why I cannot work out. Did you have an injury?

Yeah it's part of a lawsuit now. It really doesn't do me any good because I can't get my health and life back no matter what I do. Everyday is torture so even a big settlement does nothing for me.

 

[windingdown]

I had a psychologist try to tell me that I have to try and accept my new normal and appreciate the things that I still can do. It is a struggle to make it through each and every day as I self-medicate the shit out of myself just to cope. I have never had a drug or alcohol problem before this. I am going to a surgeon this Wednesday and I'm just going to be flat out with him. Offer me something no matter how invasive because I refuse to live this way much longer. I am not accepting my "new normal". I am not going to go from someone who worked two jobs and partied even harder to a house rat for the rest of my life. Also, the best I ever felt in my life was when I was a complete health nut that was always in the gym. No SSRI can replicate that.

I very much hear you on transitioning (or abruptly changing) from being Person A to Person B. Where you can't recognize your life (and maybe yourself) anymore. Losing the things about your life, or yourself, that made life meaningful for you. It is a profound kind of grief.

 

[itsallover]

what happened?

Psychiatrists overmedicated me to the point where I developed severe physical health problems. I have been trying for two and a half years to get my health and life back. Now I'm seeing a reconstructive surgeon and if they can't fix it then I'm totally screwed. I have a lawsuit being filed and will try to make my family beneficiaries of a settlement if I die before it. Everyday is torture and I can't wait years while I'm suffering like this. They want a deposition from me but I just want to write a letter explaining what happened so I can finally be free of this debilitating condition. I am completely exhausted and tired of trying. Either fix it or kill me already. I'm gonna have to take matters into my own hands at this point. My family will be devastated that I'm made but I hope they can at least live well with the compensation.

 

[Otto]

I feel that all the meds I take just numb the pain a little bit don't treat the route cause.
A bit like taking a pain killer when you have a hole in your tooth t numb the pain but it's still there.
I've had therapy and it starts to help but then it comes to an end and I'm left with even more shit I don't know how to deal with,but the pills keep multiplying.
I just wanted wish I could pull this tooth out as the fillings never last and the hole just keeps getting bigger

 

[GeorgeEastman]

I should become a psychologist. Just declare myself one and put up a sign at the mall. I would, but then people would walk up to me and start talking. I'd hate it so much.

No wonder they're not convinced you have a shit life. Look at theirs.

 

[ion900]

Yeah it's part of a lawsuit now. It really doesn't do me any good because I can't get my health and life back no matter what I do. Everyday is torture so even a big settlement does nothing for me.

Exactly. Don't fall for the lie that there isn't a way out. Another age needs to come fast. One were we aren't strangers anymore. It is genius to make big cities where it becomes normal to be ignore passers by.

 

[ion900]

Psychiatrists overmedicated me to the point where I developed severe physical health problems. I have been trying for two and a half years to get my health and life back. Now I'm seeing a reconstructive surgeon and if they can't fix it then I'm totally screwed. I have a lawsuit being filed and will try to make my family beneficiaries of a settlement if I die before it. Everyday is torture and I can't wait years while I'm suffering like this. They want a deposition from me but I just want to write a letter explaining what happened so I can finally be free of this debilitating condition. I am completely exhausted and tired of trying. Either fix it or kill me already. I'm gonna have to take matters into my own hands at this point. My family will be devastated that I'm made but I hope they can at least live well with the compensation.

Any psych drugging is over drugging. It is a human right to chose what goes in your body.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

Psychiatrists overmedicated me to the point where I developed severe physical health problems. I have been trying for two and a half years to get my health and life back. Now I'm seeing a reconstructive surgeon and if they can't fix it then I'm totally screwed. I have a lawsuit being filed and will try to make my family beneficiaries of a settlement if I die before it. Everyday is torture and I can't wait years while I'm suffering like this. They want a deposition from me but I just want to write a letter explaining what happened so I can finally be free of this debilitating condition. I am completely exhausted and tired of trying. Either fix it or kill me already. I'm gonna have to take matters into my own hands at this point. My family will be devastated that I'm made but I hope they can at least live well with the compensation.

i dont understand - did your face got deconstructed? how? what do you mean with reconstructive surgeon

 

[406blue]

An objectively shit life, quite. Each time i leave a cbt session or having talked to my doctor, i get the feeling that nothing has changed except that the isolation has become more profound. The drugs seem to have the same effect. Isn't it a pity that one has to struggle so hard to find a peaceful way out.

 

[ion900]

An objectively shit life, quite. Each time i leave a cbt session or having talked to my doctor, i get the feeling that nothing has changed except that the isolation has become more profound. The drugs seem to have the same effect. Isn't it a pity that one has to struggle so hard to find a peaceful way out.

I've found not being ashamed of the struggle leads to a more proactive approach in the moment.

 

[406blue]

I've found not being ashamed of the struggle leads to a more proactive approach in the moment.

I am a lot less ashamed of the struggle having joined these discussions.

 

[satou]

Every time I see the title of this thread I feel like I can really relate.

me taking ssri is nothing else then an alcoholic who drinks to cope with homelessness

This too. The real problem for me is that I feel that given the right circumstances, I could be relatively happy (or at least at peace with living...). It's just that I'm not sure if those circumstances could ever really happen.

 

[406blue]

its not just my perceiption

me taking ssri is nothing else then an alcoholic who drinks to cope with homelessness

doesnt change the situation and the cause but helps to numb yourself

Alcohol, nicotine, ssri, valium, cocaine, morphine, moonshine, anything to dull the pain. I have been to india several times and on the last trip i noticed a large increase in the amount of men sitting around drunk in their dhabas as tourists wander past on their way to their next massage clinic. Why is the world so full of unhappy people.

 

[windingdown]

I am a lot less ashamed of the struggle having joined these discussions.

I am with you. No doubt the humans in this community are very diverse, all coming from very different paths. But we have ended up in the same or a similar place. I appreciate the willingness to discuss stark life issues, and the lack of judgement.

 

[windingdown]

Alcohol, nicotine, ssri, valium, cocaine, morphine, moonshine, anything to dull the pain. I have been to india several times and on the last trip i noticed a large increase in the amount of men sitting around drunk in their dhabas as tourists wander past on their way to their next massage clinic. Why is the world so full of unhappy people.

I think it's just hard to be human. The human condition is to struggle for happiness or well-being in circumstances that make these things difficult to impossible. And people everywhere face the same practical and existential struggles, no matter where we come from.

I think the incredible thing is that so few people kill themselves.

 

[2CropcircleUNeedHelp]

Great point here