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KillingPain267

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Like, why do people go lengths to waste their time on exercising, which is often painful, and restricting their food intake just to live 8 years more or something? I get that someone might like hiking or weightlifting as a hobby in and of itself, but why waste so much time and pain on it just for longevity? Like that Bryan Johnson guy or whatever. Nobody is going to live forever that way anyway. I used to be into health and diet, but only as a way to avoid getting cancers for which the treatments seem worse than the disease. Because I knew if ever I got cancer my family would pressure me into taking the treatments just survive despite there being permanent side effects lowering quality of life. But now I don't care about avoiding heart disease or cancer because I would just refuse treatment or use it as a more acceptable excuse to ctb.
 
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Aiyuxiao

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I feel this 💯

When I was younger, I used to be very into health and fitness. To the point where I became an instructor working/teaching classes at gyms and studios. I also mostly ate a healthy diet (went from vegetarian, paleo, keto, anti-inflammatory, etc.). Consumed healthy supplements & vitamins, etc.

And I learned in the end, it doesn't matter. You can do everything right, and it doesn't matter. I ended up still becoming chronically ill and disabled. It's so stupid. I worked hard in my youth doing XYZ thinking it will keep me healthy and pain free, but it didn't.

Now I'm over here wanting to kill myself over my illnesses and disabilities, and I think to myself everyday, "If I was diagnosed with a terminal illness, it would be my way out." Like you, I wouldn't seek treatment, idgaf what anyone else in my life says. Or I'll use it as an excuse to end it all. My body, my choice.
 
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Forever Sleep

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Maybe they feel better day to day feeling healthier. To be honest, I've done myself no favours by stopping exercise and letting my weight balloon. I feel like shit. Work is harder because I have less energy to do it. I know I need to get back into it again. Even a small amount- to feel better but, I just don't feel like I want to face it right now.

They might also not be doing it for a long lifespan. Some 'healthy' people still do other unhealthy things- eg. smoke and drink to excess. They may be doing it to remain attractive.
 
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Kali_Yuga13

Kali_Yuga13

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People that "get into" health usually do so to sublimate some psychological process. A hyper competitive person will view being the "heathiest" as a goal but it's driven by vanity. Or living the longest is viewed as "winning" a race. That's what I thin is going on with public heath nuts and longevity gurus.

As a depressed person when I stumbled upon being heathy as a lifestyle it was a great outlet at first but I eventually food and supplements can't fix trauma of family problems.

I have seen little rhyme or reason why some of my family lived into old age with very bad habits yet some with better habits died younger.

I think riding oneself of toxic people is more important than diet. I'd rather eat a little junk food with people that love me than the heathiest food with miserable people.

When scientists talk about the "Mediterranean diet" and longevity they fail to consider the interpersonal customs. People there don't go around thinking "I'm eating heathy today". They have a robust farming and cooking culture centered around enjoying each other's company when eating.
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

Angst Filled Fuck Up

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If you live long enough, you often don't have much of a choice but to shape up. If you never exercise and eat nothing but crap you'll feel terrible day to day before too long. You can typically get away with it without any real repercussions in your twenties, but as you age, things really start wearing down. So it inevitably becomes more of a quality of life issue than anything else, I think.

Granted I don't see the point of living to 92 instead of say 85, but a lot of people do fear death and will do everything they can to stave it off.
 
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divinemistress36

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I just exercise sometimes for the dopamine, I don't want to live a long time so could care less about that
 
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Cause the normies don't wanna die, they fear death, it's this incoming personal apocalpyse that they have to face eventually. They know it's happening and there's nothing they can do to stop it so they try everything in their power to delay it.
 
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Forveleth

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Because if I am alive I do not want to feel like shit physically. Having hit garbage mental health is bad enough. I like being able to walk up stairs without being out of breath. I like being able to do the chorea without having to take ten breaks. I do not want to go through daily life with knee, hip, back pain.

I never thought I would make it to 40 and if I get to the age where I am at risk for stroke/heart attack I would like to decrease my odds of that too. I do not want to be suicidal while also slurring my speech and drooling out one aide of my mouth.

My purpose is not to live longer, it is to live a better quality life until I end it. I want to face Death eyes wide open and standing tall.
I just exercise sometimes for the dopamine, I don't want to live a long time so could care less about that
Honestly a bit of this too. That soreness (not pain, if you feel pain you worked too hard) is satisfying in a way. I also just like being able to slowly lift heavier and heavier things.
 
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amerie

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I get that this is a suicide forum but not everyone wants to die, life isn't that bad if you're lucky enough to not be depressed or a minority and some people want to live longer for their children and to experience more happy memories.

Also exercising is fun I love Zumba and weight lifting
 
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mirror_mercury

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to die of old age, is the ultimate goal

people who lifespan maxxx.......... they need to detach attachment of their life, death is inevitable for all

that is not to say, you want to chase dangerous thrills like sky diving
 
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KillingPain267

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Maybe they feel better day to day feeling healthier. To be honest, I've done myself no favours by stopping exercise and letting my weight balloon. I feel like shit. Work is harder because I have less energy to do it. I know I need to get back into it again. Even a small amount- to feel better but, I just don't feel like I want to face it right now.
I totally relate to this. I gained weight from, possibly, antidepressive medication and consuming sodas and candy. But those things are the only tiny joys in life keeping me from entirely giving up. But it makes me less functional for society, for sure, due to tiredness.
They might also not be doing it for a long lifespan. Some 'healthy' people still do other unhealthy things- eg. smoke and drink to excess. They may be doing it to remain attractive.
That is so true! Maybe most fitness freaks probably do it for vain reasons and only post hoc rationalize it as "lifespan maxxing" or health maxxing.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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What is this maxxing thing? You max out a stat and these people max out their life spans? The one with the most lifespan I saw was an old lady that was 117 if I remember and when I asked her what she did to get there she said "nothing I lived normally" , she didn't do any diets or exercise, she could barely move. It was all down to genetics.

I don't know, exercising doesn't give ME anything either, I've tried it multiple times for long periods of times 6months+, when you see life this way everything becomes pointless. I mean, honestly, everything is pointless and even me rubbing this fact in everyone's faces would be pointless, the quicker we die, the quicker we stop thinking, the quicker we forget about this shitty "experience" , we won't feel anything anymore, this will be a "bad dream" that won't even get registered because there will be nothing, no more mechanism to run and create problems and pain. I don't need to feel the "darkness" or the nothingness that will come, I just don't need to feel life anymore.

I should just do it as soon as possible to be honest. Everything is bleak and colorless as it has always been, the color was just an illusion my brain was adding on top of it, I don't wanna be my body's fool. I want to go.
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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It's from incel terminology, I admit, (however stupid and hateful I think incel ideology is).
I ended up searching about it since I did see it before (maxx + word combination I mean) but assumed it to be something 15 yo gamers would use and I didn't pay it attention and given you said it's incel terminology, it just looks like pointless stat padding to me, "sportswashing" but in different ways? Putin doing judo with kids type beat. not gonna change my opinion on the group/person.
 
KillingPain267

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What is this maxxing thing? You max out a stat and these people max out their life spans? The one with the most lifespan I saw was an old lady that was 117 if I remember and when I asked her what she did to get there she said "nothing I lived normally" , she didn't do any diets or exercise, she could barely move. It was all down to genetics.
Some studies show that certain diets and lifestyles improve chances of living longer (and I tend to believe them despite not understanding why they see it as desirable). Anyway, that's where I got it from. But yeah, centenarians are an enigma to science, still (in fact, aging and death is, in general). I really hope I only last until HALF a century, unlike those genetically superior (or "mysterious") centenarians.
 
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katara

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You make a good point, I often wonder why too. It's too expensive to eat healthy in America anyways.
 
KillingPain267

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I don't know, exercising doesn't give ME anything either, I've tried it multiple times for long periods of times 6months+, when you see life this way everything becomes pointless. I mean, honestly, everything is pointless and even me rubbing this fact in everyone's faces would be pointless, the quicker we die, the quicker we stop thinking, the quicker we forget about this shitty "experience" , we won't feel anything anymore, this will be a "bad dream" that won't even get registered because there will be nothing, no more mechanism to run and create problems and pain. I don't need to feel the "darkness" or the nothingness that will come, I just don't need to feel life anymore.
I guess this is why I love "depressant drugs" (like alcohol, benzos, sleeping pills, opioids etc.), because they simulate the next best thing to eternal unconsciousness (a sweet deep slumber).
I should just do it as soon as possible to be honest. Everything is bleak and colorless as it has always been, the color was just an illusion my brain was adding on top of it, I don't wanna be my body's fool. I want to go.
It's strange how the BRAIN, the supposed "most human part of us", particularly the brainstem, sends signals to keep the lungs and heart going, (despite not us wanting to). We cannot (with our brains) tell the heart to just stop. Ugh!
I ended up searching about it since I did see it before (maxx + word combination I mean) but assumed it to be something 15 yo gamers would use and I didn't pay it attention and given you said it's incel terminology, it just looks like pointless stat padding to me, "sportswashing" but in different ways? Putin doing judo with kids type beat. not gonna change my opinion on the group/person.
Yup, but I advise not to go deeper into their incel stuff. It's truly stupid (exactly like you say, something an immature 15 yo gamer would come up with). 🤣 I only use terms like "maxxing" because I assume some users here are young and would resonate with it, plus I read that some mods here come from incel circles (which is quite sad).
When scientists talk about the "Mediterranean diet" and longevity they fail to consider the interpersonal customs. People there don't go around thinking "I'm eating heathy today". They have a robust farming and cooking culture centered around enjoying each other's company when eating.
Interesting thoughts! Even if I tend to agree with studies that there is something to high-fiber low animal meat diets in and of themselves, social connection cannot be ignored. Depression and anxiety really takes a toll on the heart. And as a person suffering from those conditions, even eating with nearest family can be hard when I don't feel like socializing at all. Yet, I wish the effect was great enough to induce an actual heart attack! I guess I have to keep eating trans-fats and simple carbs (sugar) to eventually, actually, croak!
If you live long enough, you often don't have much of a choice but to shape up. If you never exercise and eat nothing but crap you'll feel terrible day to day before too long. You can typically get away with it without any real repercussions in your twenties, but as you age, things really start wearing down. So it inevitably becomes more of a quality of life issue than anything else, I think.

Granted I don't see the point of living to 92 instead of say 85, but a lot of people do fear death and will do everything they can to stave it off.
Makes sense!
I just exercise sometimes for the dopamine, I don't want to live a long time so could care less about that
Drugs give me a much faster dopamine effect. Since unfortunately my brain already knows this, exercise cannot compare to a bottle of gin, three lines of coke or an oxy pill. The latter are easier to obtain than two hours of abusing my muscles and bones. Ugh!
Cause the normies don't wanna die, they fear death, it's this incoming personal apocalpyse that they have to face eventually. They know it's happening and there's nothing they can do to stop it so they try everything in their power to delay it.
Sounds like avoiding reality, haha.
Because if I am alive I do not want to feel like shit physically. Having hit garbage mental health is bad enough. I like being able to walk up stairs without being out of breath. I like being able to do the chorea without having to take ten breaks. I do not want to go through daily life with knee, hip, back pain.
Legit!
I never thought I would make it to 40 and if I get to the age where I am at risk for stroke/heart attack I would like to decrease my odds of that too. I do not want to be suicidal while also slurring my speech and drooling out one aide of my mouth.
Again, legit! This is why I try to avoid messing up on drugs as much as possible: because when I take my life I want it to be without interference of medical staff and family who don't trust me to be alone for 5 minutes without self-abusing (on drugs or impulsive ctb decisions).
Honestly a bit of this too. That soreness (not pain, if you feel pain you worked too hard) is satisfying in a way. I also just like being able to slowly lift heavier and heavier things.
Yup, it's the endorphins (a natural opioid). Unfortunately, as an opioid addict, my brain already knows and remembers a much faster way to obtain a much greater amount of endorphin release (through a simple pill or a few drinks).
 
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Not sure but people saybcan immensely improve mental and physical health

Ofc that doesnt count for everyone everyone
 
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Not sure but people saybcan immensely improve mental and physical health

Ofc that doesnt count for everyone everyone
I have little to no motivation to even get up from bed. Even though I know exercise may give mental benefits (studies prove it), the negative stress to get those benefits outweigh the positive potential benefits.
 
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bankai

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For me, it's about being healthy as long as I'm here. I lift weights. I do zone 2 endurance training. I box. And I do HIIT.

I also hit the sauna thrice a week and I do cold plunges from time to time. Also red light therapy. It makes me feel good, for what it's worth. It's not about living long. It's about being healthy. But I also enjoy the stuff so it's not the same If you don't enjoy it I guess. it would probably seem like torture.
 
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FoxSauce

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I have little to no motivation to even get up from bed. Even though I know exercise may give mental benefits (studies prove it), the negative stress to get those benefits outweigh the positive potential benefits.
Exactly thats why I said not everyone can benefit. Im sorry you feel that way
 
bankai

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Endorphins are good for your mood. The problem is, to create them, you're going to have to go through something that creates their antagonist.Dynorphins.

You get the endorphins when you exercise. But when you go through the hard part of exercising and you're sweating and you're building up lactic acid and struggling and suffering and tearing up, that's when the dynorphins get created. And the harder the exercise, there's more dynorphins. But there's also more endorphins released post workout.

I usually do a hard workout and then go into the sauna. When you push yourself in the sauna, as in when you try staying in longer and push yourself to stay when you start feeling really uncomfortable. That's also when you create a lot of dynorphins.I feel pretty good At least for several hours after I come out. You can't necessarily call it happiness. But you definitely do feel good and the mood is elevated from what it was before.
 
Niron1492

Niron1492

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Its hard for me too,i excersise at home with bodyweight fitness to just look healthy as i get bullied often so i just try to have a normal weight(well more towards skinny since i dont eat much).
It's also saved me from a recent trauma so thats why i continue doing it,and i guess recommend others if they want though i dont like the fixation in society as a whole on exercising since i think people should mostly just enjoy life(well those that can atleast) rather than work themselves up and not eat whatever they want or relax on a couch for days.
My grandmother died from cancer and she always ate healthy and she worked in a factory which i guess she also exercised,So its not like you are immune to it if you workout when you can always perish at any moment.
 
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TBONTB

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Like, why do people go lengths to waste their time on exercising, which is often painful, and restricting their food intake just to live 8 years more or something? I get that someone might like hiking or weightlifting as a hobby in and of itself, but why waste so much time and pain on it just for longevity? Like that Bryan Johnson guy or whatever. Nobody is going to live forever that way anyway. I used to be into health and diet, but only as a way to avoid getting cancers for which the treatments seem worse than the disease. Because I knew if ever I got cancer my family would pressure me into taking the treatments just survive despite there being permanent side effects lowering quality of life. But now I don't care about avoiding heart disease or cancer because I would just refuse treatment or use it as a more acceptable excuse to ctb.

When I was doing exercise (not anymore) it was about trying to have good quality of life. I wanted to be strong enough to get out of a chairs and limber enough to tie my shoes.