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Berlin76

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Aug 18, 2019
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One big problem with that would be trust - almost everybody would object to a family/friend "opting out of life", even if they had a very good reason. Have to admit, even I have a moral objection to helping someone if they show deficits in critical thinking, or if they appear to be going through a temporary mood swing. You'd be asking someone to arguably commit a crime for you which would entangle them in legal matters, possibly prison, and give them a criminal record. In an ideal world, the person doing this would be a doctor at a euthanasia clinic. The safest way for using a drip would be to do it yourself, and not get found. The 100mL could be injected/poured into a bag of saline, the drip securely attached to an appropriate blood vessel, then started. You could give yourself an IV shot of benzodiazepine to make sure you settle down before it kicks in. I don't think taking 100mL of liquid is feasible by IV without the bag. Looks like this person tried to inject it directly and didn't get a sufficient dose in before passing out, or didn't know the lethal dose requirement was the entire bottle.


Pretty sure there are people on here with enough nursing/pharmacy knowledge to advise on setting up a drip, and the basic requirements are available without being in the industry. Maybe you could pay someone for instructions.

I've been thinking about whether N is absorbed when administered as an enema. It appears so. Could be a way to bypass the nausea problem, and/or augment the dose taken by mouth.



Sorry to hear that. How much did you take, did you swallow it all, and was there any vomiting? If so, was it caused by the bad taste, or did you get over the taste then feel the vomiting urge afterwards?

The bottle form does contain some pretty gross additives, and I would be using the pure powder in tap water. Maybe it needs to be diluted a bit to avoid the vomiting, or maybe that's a pharmacodynamic effect which is unavoidable at any high dose, or maybe it's related to the additives. I will take all measures to avoid vomiting, but antiemetics and metoclopramide in particular increase the chances of a seizure and vomiting, so they are unfortunately not an option, but I've kept down some absolutely vile chemical liquids before.

Domperidone is the only antiemetic I could take, as it is mostly kept from crossing the blood-brain barrier by design which is a good thing. Benzos have some antiemetic effect by keeping you calm, maybe I could get a little stoned too. With using a funnel and numb mouth and pure product, it should work. I'd have plenty to IV and enema in addition after drinking, to act as a contingency. Put it into every orifice possible and some should stick...

Why does it have to be so easy to be born, but so damn hard to die without agony in some form? Life is such a disappointment, even when not in the desperate states many of us are.

Just buy the meto and test one tablet of 10mg. Everybody is so afraid of side effects here because they read about it.
Only a few people get it so it's unlikely for most of us.

Just by dipping my finger in it started gagging. In november 2018 i took 2ml as a test without anti e and also vomited.

So 200ml without meto or any other anti e is impossible.
 
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RightToExit

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Sep 25, 2019
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In an ideal world, the person doing this would be a doctor at a euthanasia clinic.

Yes, or a professional that does house visits. You could use written contracts and video recordings to establish unambiguous consent, then you open the valve yourself. My problems are N availability and lack of medical equipment and knowledge how to self-inject, plus the obvious legal barriers. Otherwise I would just buy a suicide kit or euthanasia machine and not involve other people.
 
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Idorus

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Apr 30, 2018
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That's a really clever idea, just ordered some. The miracle berry pills would need to be chewed so that the whole mouth, tongue, throat gets an even coating. Wikipedia says that it's pH-dependent in altering taste, could be that this bitterness is caused by a different mechanism to food bitterness, but only one way to find out. As pentobarbital can absorb through the tongue and mouth, and a dose even 1% of a 6.3g bottle would still be enough to have some effect, anyone trying this would need to be very careful to not swish it around their mouth then end up dozing off and spilling their bottle.

Did you get those miracle berry pills and so yes, what is the experience?
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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I've written a guide on handling taste issues with N :

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-taste-guide-draft.26278
 
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Can N be mixed with something to mask the horrible taste? I really would prefer to go for an injection form but I would need someome to assist me & I don't have anyone. I did, but they are gone now. :(
Can N be mixed with something to mask the horrible taste? I really would prefer to go for an injection form but I would need someome to assist me & I don't have anyone. I did, but they are gone now. :(
 
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jgm63

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Can N be mixed with something to mask the horrible taste? I really would prefer to go for an injection form but I would need someome to assist me & I don't have anyone. I did, but they are gone now. :(
Can N be mixed with something to mask the horrible taste? I really would prefer to go for an injection form but I would need someome to assist me & I don't have anyone. I did, but they are gone now. :(
It's discussed in the N taste guide that you "liked" above, so I would have a read of it.....
 
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It's discussed in the N taste guide that you "liked" above, so I would have a read of it.....

Ok thanks.
It's discussed in the N taste guide that you "liked" above, so I would have a read of it.....

Ok I had a look, it is a good guide, so is there nothing I can mix it with that won't increase the volume too much?
It's discussed in the N taste guide that you "liked" above, so I would have a read of it.....

Even if it does increase the volume will it not take away enough of the bad taste away so that its easier to drink?
 
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