What do you think about the new age verification systen in the UK? Do you fear your country will copy it?

[noname223]

I am from Germany and my knowledge consists of like literally 1-3 news articles.

The biggest fans of this legislation will be VPN companies. I think the EU wants to copy a similar legislation but there are many voices against that. It seems like EU bureaucracy has something good they cannot get shit done. Lol.

I am not sure whether we will get a similar bad law. The law is horrendous. Maybe it is like the Brexit and it shows the other European countries which road not to follow. This is at least what I hope. It feels authoritarian. I read people try to trick the verification technology with the help of AI. I would probably simply use my VPN. But this law in a world wiithout VPNs would be totally insane. And smaller forums will close because of the bureaucratic hurdles.

I had a better image of Starmer and the UK government before all of that happened. But I also don't know that much about UK politics.

 

[moribundwhispers]

The biggest fans of this legislation will be VPN companies

it's the 3rd party companies that are contracted to scan ppls faces and ids. nobody heard of these two companies before but now they're everywhere.

 

[derpyderpins]

They're going into effect in the US and I hate them. And the discussion around it pisses me off so much.

> Government demands your ID and face scan to use part of the internet
> "Well, I don't care for that one bit no I don't"
> "it's just for porn! What, you want children exposed to porn and bad things? You love porn so much you just can't give it up?"
> " . . . you really, really think it will only ever be for porn? and you reallllly think teenage boys won't get around it?"

It's just, ugh. And it'll be """conservatives""" of course who are suddenly fine with government surveillance and overreach, like with the patriot act. I think the UK one is already going to reddit: I guess it'll be all social media with scantily-clad women, so - ya know - ALL social media. Oh, wait, Amazon sells lube and vibrating massagers, guess you gotta submit there, to? Hey, retard conservatives, you already hate restrictions on guns, how about you need to use the ID thing to find a range or look up any information about ammunition? What, you don't think the next democrat would do that to you? It'll just be porn, right? Then maybe we wait a few years, let people get really comfortable with it, before we start having it in liquor stores, and it connects to your nationwide, then global, face ID. Zero chance it'll turn into a Chinese-type social credit score that monitors your behavior constantly. Our government is way too competent and well-intentioned and full of good people for that.

I guess I'm the crazy one. I guess to some people that's crazy. Government would never just keep creeping in more and more.

It's only at a state level for now, but it's like half the states and the narrative is being set up to pRoTeCt tHe ChiLDRen. The battle-cry of the braindead political commentator. It started with the stupid things at the airport that waste time and that you're allowed to decline but people don't realize you're allowed to decline. It's way faster to decline and show them your ID, but the justification for purchasing THOUSANDS of those iPads is supposedly speed and convenience, definitely not putting everything in place for total surveillance state. I'm the crazy one.

 

[Hvergelmir]

No fear, just disappointment at the stupidity.

If such a system is implemented here, I'll boycott it as much as possible.
At the same time, I'd start using darknet services a whole lot more. The soaring demand of such might even incite better supply and a positive long term change to free speech and privacy.
In a sense overt surveillance might be preferable to the current covert one, which is largely invisible.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I barely notice it- I'm from the UK. Maybe because I've had membership here before the law came in, most of the time, I don't need to use the VPN to access here. I don't go in for other adult content really.

I'm of mixed minds. Truthfully and selfishly, I don't want minors here. They cause the most anger towards the site if they do CTB. They also put members at risk from their families and law enforcement. I'm sure they would investigate a minors death far more thoroughly than a middle aged adult.

If someone here has a detailed discussion about method information for instance, in the belief they are chatting to an adult and it turns out they are a child, I doubt law enforcement or the child's family will accept that as an excuse. In some ways, the fewer minors plus potentially volcanic parents that can find their way here, the better- to my mind. If that means that adults need to use VPN's then, maybe that's an ok price to pay. If children start using them too, that's another fault of their parents- not noticing. Parents need to parent!

Plus, I guess I am a prude really. I'm not so sure it is good for young teenagers to be watching loads of porn. I'm sure there has been a massive rise in sexual violence and sexual exploitation in younger generations. I'm sure that in part is down to what they're watching. All of that is encouraging desires in them. If it's particularly degrading or violent, I'm sure that plays a part in influencing them.

I heard a statistic once that 1 in 4 relationships in young people would be considered abusive. That's messed up! It's obvious the world is becoming more violent. Children carrying knives to school etc. We probably should be questioning why. I think our media consumption does play a part. I just don't know whether we can turn back now though. The hunger for it is there now plus, the knowledge that it's out there. It being taboo may just make it all the more enticing.

 

[moribundwhispers]

guarantee there are conflicts of interest. these companies' whole market was legislated into existence. and they say lobbying doesn't exist outside of america.

 

[rainwillneverstop]

Not just UK.
Australia, Canada, some US states, and EU is on the way too.
It's all interesting enough happening at the same time.