Discussion What do you believe happens when you die?

[Numbtopain97]

It's kind of like what happens before you're born? When your consciousness ceases there is nothing left. Not even blackness

 

[TearyEyedQueen]

I believe there's nothing. I could be wrong, but that's it for me, the same thing like before I was born.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

It's kind of like what happens before you're born? When your consciousness ceases there is nothing left. Not even blackness

The Nothingness. Just as before you were born.

 

[voyager]

There might be nothing, and I can accept that, but insisting there's nothing is just as absurd. We can't explain our existence or the universe, both underlie the same paradox. So, how are we even here? None of us can remember nonexistance and consciousness is really all we know. So, is it even possible to die? We're meant to believe there was a time before and after, but it might as well be a perfect simulation or the universe turning in on itself.

Memories are an odd thing, too. We know we were there in time, but in retrospect they are frozen and without hindsight any given situation would play out the same as it always has. So, are we conscious and of free will or merely observing and enacting a script? Thus, my best guess is that when we die, everyone else remains in this timeline, but we instantly pass into infinity and this allows pretty much anything, and nothing, but since it happened once it may very well happen again. So, either death is not the end or we're basically reincarnated for all eternity and death is amnesia cleansing us.

 

[Jeannine]

I am a traditional Catholic, and so I guess Hell. I have some hope maybe Purgatory, but I know that's false hope. Also feel really bad and I don't want nor deserve a Catholic funeral, even though the Church is lenient on that these days.

 

[Asta]

@LASTUSER - What in the world are you doing on this site? You're obviously a pro-lifer and you don't belong here, unless you're planning to off yourself. Kindly take your bible-thumping rhetoric somewhere else! There isn't a shred of proof that anything in it is true!

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

I was raised in the church and always believed in heaven and hell. Then studied comparative religions and realized that it's all bs. I sincerely believe that everything just stops. And I find comfort in that. Eternity sounds like a drag.

 

[Pan]

Everything does reboot. We do not reincarnate as animals, rocks or plants. As a human being, you have reached the height of development; you cannot devolve. Instead, your life goes on and on and on. True, I can quote quantum physics or the Bhagavad Gita—-it matters little. Forget inherited bad karma—-you have paid in this life only, and, at your death emerge refreshed and ready to take on the world anew. If you develop a deep connection with nature, for example, you discern cycles within cycles. Christians, for example believe in the Christ as a savior. He is a symbol only, promising renewal after death.

 

[Grandexit]

I hope it's lights off, just a big dark nothingness.

 

[LASTUSER]

@LASTUSER - What in the world are you doing on this site? You're obviously a pro-lifer and you don't belong here, unless you're planning to off yourself. Kindly take your bible-thumping rhetoric somewhere else! There isn't a shred of proof that anything in it is true!

I am planning to commit suicide within the next few days, I will post my goodbye thread before then. I suffer from serious Lyme illness and finally want relief from the symptoms. I still believe The Bible even though I am going to kill myself, because I am saved by The Lord Jesus Christ and all my sins were washed away with his shed blood on the cross, suicide included. The Bible makes it clear that once you are saved, it is forever, that you can never lose it. Saul and Samson are two examples of people in The Bible who killed themselves and are in Heaven right now.

Am I pro life? Yes I am. But your definition of life and mine are probably different. According to The Bible, someone only has life when they believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of The Son of God for salvation. Jesus is my life, he is the only life there is. I already have life everlasting. I will never die. My flesh and blood body may be gone soon but I will live on and one day I will rise again. I don't fear death, I fear God. If I wasn't saved, I would be scared of committing suicide, becuase I know that hell is real and no one goes there for suicide, they go there for rejecting and ignoring the gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[Asta]

How can you possibly know that Saul and Samson are in "heaven", and how could Samson have been "saved" by the lord J.C., when he lived long before J.C.'s time? Nevertheless, sorry that you've had to experience all that suffering. Hope you are successful in your exit.

 

[LASTUSER]

How can you possibly know that Saul and Samson are in "heaven", and how could Samson have been "saved" by the lord J.C., when he lived long before J.C.'s time? Nevertheless, sorry that you've had to experience all that suffering. Hope you are successful in your exit.

Jesus Christ is The Lamb slain since the foundation of the world. Everyone that has ever gotten saved or will ever get saved, Old Testament or New Testament, is and was saved by him. From Adam and Eve all the way to the last people that ever get saved at the end of his 1000 year millennial kingdom to come. He is the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to The Father, but by him.

Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate your words of encouragement and hope I am successful as well. You may disagree with my beliefs, but I only want rest, which is also what I want for the people of this forum to have too, which is why I say what I do.

 

[c824767]

Whatever it might be and there is no limit to the imagination, I hope I will be surrounded by something other than the almost infinite intent of malevolence, disenfranchisement, predator behaviour for any possible resource (starting with money) that is required for our biological security, suppression, violence, intimidation, greed, complacency and destruction that has taken a hold with humans on this planet now and in history.

 

[_Minsk]

I am planning to commit suicide within the next few days, I will post my goodbye thread before then. I suffer from serious Lyme illness and finally want relief from the symptoms. I still believe The Bible even though I am going to kill myself, because I am saved by The Lord Jesus Christ and all my sins were washed away with his shed blood on the cross, suicide included. The Bible makes it clear that once you are saved, it is forever, that you can never lose it. Saul and Samson are two examples of people in The Bible who killed themselves and are in Heaven right now.

Am I pro life? Yes I am. But your definition of life and mine are probably different. According to The Bible, someone only has life when they believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of The Son of God for salvation. Jesus is my life, he is the only life there is. I already have life everlasting. I will never die. My flesh and blood body may be gone soon but I will live on and one day I will rise again. I don't fear death, I fear God. If I wasn't saved, I would be scared of committing suicide, becuase I know that hell is real and no one goes there for suicide, they go there for rejecting and ignoring the gospel of Jesus Christ.

i just wonder why on earth people even murder or sin at all, why has 'god' given us that body, why does he has us given so many problems.. if god was a good god he would've given us the ability to chose what to feel, wouldnt even have created illness, hate and anger.. why do we have to feel jealousy, envy? i can understand peeps who do horrible things like killing people, i still would never do it tho but if god is all knowing he must know that those feelings can get people to do things which are horrible... this whole religion stuff is just pure bs to me, it has been crated to rule people, it only creates fear and suffering.. in fact we still have to deal with its lies about hell and heaven.. its just so cruel... sorry for posting this but thats what i think about it

 

[c824767]

i just wonder why on earth people even murder or sin at all, why has 'god' given us that body, why does he has us given so many problems.. if god was a good god he would've given us the ability to chose what to feel, wouldnt even have created illness, hate and anger.. why do we have to feel jealousy, envy? i can understand peeps who do horrible things like killing people, i still would never do it tho but if god is all knowing he must know that those feelings can get people to do things which are horrible... this whole religion stuff is just pure bs to me, it has been crated to rule people, it only creates fear and suffering.. in fact we still have to deal with its lies about hell and heaven.. its just so cruel... sorry for posting this but thats what i think about it

Bible would make a lot more sense if God were the "bad guy" Those who are too empathetic and sensitive, are too vulnerable to function well in "God's creation".

 

[_Minsk]

Bible would make a lot more sense if God were the "bad guy" Those who are too empathetic and sensitive, are too vulnerable to function well in "God's creation".

trueee

 

[Pan]

Yes, you reboot as you —-forever.

Nothingness, what else? Only someone really naive would think otherwise.

That which cannot be conceived of cannot exist. Try as you might, you simply cannot envision or describe nothingness. Logically, then, it does not exist.

 

[SinisterKid]

This thread is not some exercise in teaching the Bible or the word of god, it is asking what we believe happens when we die. If you believe we go to heaven, fine, no problem, but do not continue to tell us how, why and when, its not what the thread is asking. Continue and we can close the thread or remove posting privileges. Please stop proselytising.

 

[Pan]

I am not trying to proselytize; if you choose to close the thread, that is fine. Best to you.

 

[SinisterKid]

I am not trying to proselytize; if you choose to close the thread, that is fine. Best to you.

I was meaning in general and LASTUSER in particular. Not you personally, sorry if that was not clear.

 

[domedune]

I believe that nothing happens. You're gone. You don't feel anything anymore. You don't exist.

 

[Pan]

I was meaning in general and LASTUSER in particular. Not you personally, sorry if that was not clear.

No problem. Understood.

 

[heheb27595]

Losing the memory is like being dead.
Many people from car accident lose it all and had to restart over.
Internet is the only thing that can save a micro fraction of it.

I believe that nothing happens. You're gone. You don't feel anything anymore. You don't exist.

For some time but 1000 years will feel like 1 second.
And then born somewhere else and anyone else.
It must be something different in order to adapt, survive and thrive to the different location.

 

[Beside You In Time.]

A state of nothingness you pro-life pos. I've noticed quite a few pro-lifers on this forum from reading for nearly a year to the point where I've wondered if the forum mods are pro-lifers themselves. The people here have realized that they are living a miserable shit existence and want to end their misery. There is no point to life, we are entropy from the big bang, we are by-products of that. We exist because we evolved over billions of years from primordial life forms. We exist for the sake of existence which is to consume and breed. For some reason, we do not know why, this is how life evolved. Pointless, meaningless, repetition. Some of the people here want to check out due to various reasons, to each their own. The point is, life has absolutely no defined meaning to it and there is no magic kingdom, no afterlife, no supreme being, no sky god or gods. Death is a state of nothingness.

 

[heheb27595]

Well, unless you don't mind being an A.I.robot/cpu.

 

[Hopeindeath!]

I am a Bible Believing Christian, I have faith with all my heart and soul that The Bible is the truth. A lot of you have different opinions about what will happen after you die. Some of you think that when you die, that you will cease to exist . Some of you don't know what will happen and some think there might be something after this but can't quite figure out what it is. Well, I will tell you what The Bible says will happen. That after you die, that there are only one of two places that you can go, heaven or hell. No limbo. No purgatory. No darkness and nothingness. A literal heaven and a literal hell. My question for the people that read this thread is this: If you died today, are you 100% sure that you would go to heaven?

Here is the good news, going to heaven is easy. It is a free gift from God that you can never lose. Even if you commit suicide. It doesn't require going to church, or getting baptised, or living a clean life. The only thing you have to do to go to heaven is believe on The Lord Jesus Christ. The most famous verse in The Bible is John 3:16 which says this: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Take a couple minutes out of your day and watch the video I will post below, which will explain how to know 100% sure that when you die, that you will go to to heaven.

I agree with you.

I am planning to commit suicide within the next few days, I will post my goodbye thread before then. I suffer from serious Lyme illness and finally want relief from the symptoms. I still believe The Bible even though I am going to kill myself, because I am saved by The Lord Jesus Christ and all my sins were washed away with his shed blood on the cross, suicide included. The Bible makes it clear that once you are saved, it is forever, that you can never lose it. Saul and Samson are two examples of people in The Bible who killed themselves and are in Heaven right now.

Am I pro life? Yes I am. But your definition of life and mine are probably different. According to The Bible, someone only has life when they believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of The Son of God for salvation. Jesus is my life, he is the only life there is. I already have life everlasting. I will never die. My flesh and blood body may be gone soon but I will live on and one day I will rise again. I don't fear death, I fear God. If I wasn't saved, I would be scared of committing suicide, becuase I know that hell is real and no one goes there for suicide, they go there for rejecting and ignoring the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Your post made me cry. I am so sorry for your suffering and that you want to CTB. I believe you will go to Heaven no matter what choice you make.

 

[heheb27595]

This life you have right now with that lyme isn't hell?

 

[dioxide]

A state of nothingness you pro-life pos. I've noticed quite a few pro-lifers on this forum from reading for nearly a year to the point where I've wondered if the forum mods are pro-lifers themselves. The people here have realized that they are living a miserable shit existence and want to end their misery. There is no point to life, we are entropy from the big bang, we are by-products of that. We exist because we evolved over billions of years from primordial life forms. We exist for the sake of existence which is to consume and breed. For some reason, we do not know why, this is how life evolved. Pointless, meaningless, repetition. Some of the people here want to check out due to various reasons, to each their own. The point is, life has absolutely no defined meaning to it and there is no magic kingdom, no afterlife, no supreme being, no sky god or gods. Death is a state of nothingness.

Guess that you should add your post "i believe" and "i think", and not state them as absolute truth.

The fact you believe that afterlife there is only black paint, does not mean that it is a fact, is just one opinion and count as other's-

So that is your point, and it is ok, but till you can prove and explain several stuff like space, universe, mistery, energy and proof your theory, it is just another theory that is worth as other's-

Medicine and science is far for curing even a flu virus, i guess they can not be more far from the mistery of life, death and universe.

 

[chris8000]

I think the overwhelming opinion in Western countries because of science (which I am a big fan of), is nothing happens. They would tell us nothing more exists to a human than matter and atoms and we are just here to reproduce, but science does still not understand consciousness and it does have a very limited perspective and incomplete knowledge.

I'm not saying I have the answer to this perennial question, but my guess is there is an afterlife and there is more to a human being than matter. Somehow I feel our actions and deeds do actually matter in our journey through the cosmos. My guess is we undergo reincarnation until we have reached a certain point, then it goes on no longer, I don't know where it ends or if it ever ends.

 

[EBEN30]

I don't know what happens when we die, I don't think anyone can know. All religions say different things but I don't believe any one religion to be true. Indeed a Christian already posted on this thread telling people they will go to one of two places, Heaven or Hell. What is funny, is the fact that, that Christian would likely be a Muslim had he been born and raised in the Middle East or a Buddhist if he were born in Asia. I think, if any one religion were true above the other, there'd be certainty, no God would leave it to chance, speculation, theory and faith. I believe all religions hold fragments of truth but none hold the ultimate truth.

I am a deeply spiritual person that does not adhere to any one religion, I believe in my heart, in the fibre of my essence, that there is something more to this life, I believe we go on. I believe the universe is one, experiencing itself, I believe everything, everyone is God, you are God, I am God, we are all incarnations of the universe experiencing itself and this cycle will go on and on.

They are just my personal views and opinions though and I would be the first to hold my hands up and admit that I could be very wrong. Even if we die and there is nothingness, even if this reality is exactly the way scientists believe and think it is, I'm cool with that. I think the human mind struggles to comprehend not being consciousness.

Do you remember anything before you were born?
No, of course not.

Do you have any recollection of being fearful, scared or sad because you don't exist?
No, of course not.

There is nothing to fear and if we all just ceased to exist once we die, that's fine by me. I think as humans we want to reach out and hold onto something that brings us comfort, we look for things that bring us peace, knowing and understanding.

I read this little piece not long ago, even if we ceased to exist and we go off what science knows right now and that there is nothing after death, I can find comfort in this and I hope you can too:

You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed. You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.

And at one point you'd hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him/her that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let him/her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her/his eyes, that those photons created within her/him constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.

And the physicist will remind the congregation of how much of all our energy is given off as heat. There may be a few fanning themselves with their programs as he says it. And he will tell them that the warmth that flowed through you in life is still here, still part of all that we are, even as we who mourn continue the heat of our own lives.

And you'll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know that they can measure, that scientists have measured precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time. You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they'll be comforted to know your energy's still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you're just less orderly.