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Mirelight

Mirelight

Just going through life's motions
May 21, 2024
234
non-religious here:

For me it's the books, the rules and how unchanging they are. Personal god sounds pretty good, someone imaginary to rely on at the hardest of time... even I do that sometimes. But how can you expect the law that worked for the people in 2 thousand years ago to govern today's society? Sure some fundamentals remains unchanged, but there are so many people who literally wants their constitution to be replaced by biblical or shariah law!

And I get that they were revolutionary and progressive for their time, but today it's ultra conservative. That's why constitution is vastly superior imo. It's DESIGNED to adapt to societal change while preserving few core principles so it always remains relatively progressive.
 
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mysticatedwine

mysticatedwine

rotting autistic sun
Mar 4, 2025
154
if i were to point out what bugs me the most, it'd be the fact that religion tends to involve a lot of self-righteousness and lack of hindsight. it might sound cheesy, but i don't think there is a "good" or "bad" essence in people, but rather that people act in response to the environment they have, the structures they grow in... religion tends to erase that in favour of an individualistic take on morals.

that's just my feelings, no generality. if you, who is reading this, is religious and don't go after people who are simply doing their best, good for you
 
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Manaaja

Manaaja

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Sep 10, 2018
1,538
I hate most the illogicalness of it all. If someone today made Christianity 2. Made a book that said "Don't eat pigs, eat chicken!" that would be logical and clear. Really stupid maybe, but logical. But when I write in year 0000. "Your mother's hand is like an oak. Your father's like a chimney." and people will think that's a religious text and spend centuries trying to understand what that text means, including it in their religious books, I hate it. Cmon, what's so divine to write a nonsensical poem? And when a religious book says both "Humans were created before animals" and "animals were created before humans", that's crazy. No one should believe it. And the cherrypicking "Yeah this book bans all meat, but it actually only means deer meet because I say so".

There was a video game, where there was a prophet. That prophet taught people spells like healing and light, and said it was taught to her by angels, and that anyone who follows the religion can learn it. And you join the religion, and what is this uwu what a bulge you learn to heal your wounds with magic, yeah, it makes sense people will take the religion seriously and believe the religion's teachings are real, when you can get divine magical abilities you couldn't get without it.
 
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Carrot

Carrot

Mage
Feb 25, 2025
511
It's abused by people in power who don't follow what they preach. It's a tool for power, one of many examples of divide and conquer.

Could we as humans agree not to make up stuff if we don't know something? I think most people would agree that if there is a flood somewhere, claiming that we must have angered Poseidon is ridiculous. But the same is not true for religions, which contradict each other, which one is the correct one? And I'm the crazy one for not believing?
 
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Cosmophobic

Cosmophobic

Student
Aug 10, 2025
158
Most religions, Chrisitanity and Islam in particular, expect too much of the human animal and then they threaten punishment for not living up to those lofty expectations. It just doesn't work with how naturally fucked up we all are. In the worst cases it aligns with someone's fucked-upness and they become a zealot.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
13,185
I suppose the biggest issue is the entire premise really- they rely on faith. If ultimately, fact checking doesn't get us anywhere but they still insist they are right then- that's terribly dangerous. You can insist anything is right and, insist people believe it.

That's where it ties in to your original problem OP- that many of the original texts were written by men. Not God. What's to stop them sneaking in a few things that benefitted them? Again though- like you say- how do texts written 1000's of years ago relate to this world?

Via interpretation. But- that's also manmade and, also potentially dangerous. For example, extremists can use those same texts to justify killing.

Not knowing who is actually the correct God has caused so many upsets in this world. Religion might do more good if it wasn't based so heavily on faith.
 
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Hvergelmir

Mage
May 5, 2024
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To me it's not just how religion is based on faith - lots of things are, including scientific pursuits.
The issue is more about how they claim perfect certainty, and portray doubt as sinful. Being able to adapt is humanities greatest strength, and religion discourages that, in favor of following one rigid path.
...at least in theory. In practice, adaption and thinking is often present, but delegated to the leaders, in which case the religion becomes little more that a tool to control people.

I see the same issue in many secular ideologies.
 
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TheShadowQueen

TheShadowQueen

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Dec 5, 2023
246
It breeds hate and is used to justify horrible actions & beliefs
 
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fallingbehind

fallingbehind

Passed down like folk songs
Mar 22, 2025
80
Created to control and oppress women.
 
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itsgone2

Student
Sep 21, 2025
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I must say, I think it depends almost entirely on your particular church leader. I've never had a bad experience and maybe I'm lucky but the leaders I've known truly believe in God and just want to help everyone live better lives.
I wish I had listened better as I've made too many mistakes in life to count.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,792
That it isn't true and so u r not dealing w reality if u believe those falsehoods.

most of these religions say there is some god and or devil watching every thing u do and think

Anyone watching me for a few hours would go completely insane with boredom watching me for a few hours. What do i all day same boring ridiculous garbage . Im washing clothes, cleaning, grocery shopping, taking out trash , watching dumb youtve videos , working a boring job, etc. Why would a god or anyone or anything want to do this or think this is important? Its not .nothing matters.

Who would want that job to watch a boring human every second? Whocan believe this?

Come on u really belive something is watching u all tr time?

Nothing matters

The only thing that matters to me is me avoiding unbearable pain

They want me to believe some god is watching all 8 billion humans at the same time. How and why ? It seems like s completely ridiculous idea to me

And my thoughts r worse mostly constantly switching every few seconds animal reactions or programmed habits ( anyone monitoring this would go nuts).
To me it's not just how religion is based on faith - lots of things are, including scientific pursuits.
The issue is more about how they claim perfect certainty, and portray doubt as sinful. Being able to adapt is humanities greatest strength, and religion discourages that, in favor of following one rigid path.
...at least in theory. In practice, adaption and thinking is often present, but delegated to the leaders, in which case the religion becomes little more that a tool to control people.

I see the same issue in many secular ideologies.
I agree. A tool to control people. agree secular non-religious ideologies also to control people
 
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heroine

heroine

bound by the fetters of attachment
Feb 4, 2025
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nearly every single religion is misogynistic as fuck & they're also used to justify and spread hate. as an atheist I also personally find it all really nonsensical, I respect religious people that arent awful people though
 
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