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[HadEnough1974]

I just want to ask, why is she monitoring the site? What is she hoping to gain? She's torturing herself reliving her daughters death. Even if she's successful in destroying this site, it won't bring her daughter back and it won't stop suicide. If anything people would just pick more painful methods to do it.

If you're reading this I hope you can recover from losing your daughter. I hope you find peace in your life, but this campaign against the site won't bring her back.

It's possible that she may be trying to help people who are in the same situation as her daughter was.

It's her way of grieving, let her grieve. Let's speak about them with empathy and compassion, regardless of what they say about us.

Thank you.

 

[Empty Smile]

It's possible that she may be trying to help people who are in the same situation as her daughter was.

It's her way of grieving, let her grieve. Let's speak about them with empathy and compassion, regardless of what they say about us.

Thank you.

 

[Lostnotfound]

Yes I agree, we are all adults discussing interesting topics what the law should be concerned with is the Doctors who just inundate you with pills for everything these days, we are allocated 10 minutes to see our GP, doctor because of the shortage and the amount of people who wants to see them, they are giving Children and Adults very dangerous pills with serious side effects including making them suicidal.

It is a well documented fact but no action because the big pharmacies are making a fortune and the share holders are being paid massive dividends, it reminds me of the tobacco companies in court 35 years ago about 12 CEO's all stood up in court and swore in front of the judge and camera crew, cigarette don't cause cancer and are not addictive, lol.

Cheers Geo

My depression gives me insomnia, my gp gives me Antidepressants and sleeping pills which increase suicidal behaviour. How does that work?

 

[Carina]

It's possible that she may be trying to help people who are in the same situation as her daughter was.

It's her way of grieving, let her grieve. Let's speak about them with empathy and compassion, regardless of what they say about us.

Thank you.

There is no way to directly reply to any of your points, but I will say the mother has been grieving for coming up on a year now given one of the earliest news articles, and even in that one she was calling for the closure of this and similar sites.

I'm not saying there's a wrong amount of time to grieve, but there's a point when you aren't grieving, you're lingering, and the person may need to seek therapy to actually recover themselves. Otherwise you may end up "grieving" for 50 years, as people in my family did, and still are doing. OR not, up to them... but then people are eventually wonder...

 

[Dear Flabby]

One friend of mine made the commend to me once "grieve but don't linger" Sadly in cases like this the person like the mother is doing the opposite, she's lingering, and not really grieving.

Most ironic part, most of us wouldn't even know who they were if not for the mother and media keep on bringing it up.

We all like to think and hope we and people we know are important, but really we are only to our loved ones. No one else cares.

Do I have the right to tell a family how to grieve? I cannot do that.
All I can do is suggest that they get help. Start with the Recovery Forum on this site.
Also, there are therapists and groups that specialize in helping the bereaved. These are just a phone call away. Your family doctor will have information and help, too.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I'm very tempted to contact that particular news organization and tell them how this site has done more to keep me alive than any medication or therapy ever could.

I've seen many people saved on this website and go into the recovery section. This is the only place in the world where people can discuss suicide openly and get support in that discussion. Talking about it venting helps a lot and allows people to sort things out. If you have no one to talk with about things you usually end up suiciding because keeping it in makes your life a living hell. Censoring websites, banning a resource like this website would be a terrible thing. This website provides a lot for people who are desperate, alone : before coming to this website many people were about to suicide with a dangerous method that could leave them a quadrapligic (me included) . Taking away this website is inhumane to those of us suffering alone. It's invaluable to me for this and many other reasons.

 

[Jumper Geo]

My depression gives me insomnia, my gp gives me Antidepressants and sleeping pills which increase suicidal behaviour. How does that work?

Sorry to hear that I hope this link helps explain it. https://www.mind.org.uk/information...-effects-of-antidepressants/#SuicidalFeelings

A friend of mine was on antidepressants and he lost his sex drive and it never came back so he was in a terrible state.

Cheers Geo

 

[faust]

Bah, need to update VPN again







Edit: "The Biebers can't and wont look away from the site. They continue to monitor it, hoping one day it will be shut down. " I think it is not a good idea to remind yourself every time of your daughter's death. It must be hard and painful. There is no point in lurking there for you, If I had such a pain, the last thing I would do is constantly reminding me.

 

[Carina]

Do I have the right to tell a family how to grieve? I cannot do that.

Just as an example.... or explanation.
Technically one is grieving, the other (lingering) isn't as it's more of a treatable psychological disorder.

Grieving is a natural process that ends over time

Lingering can can lead to
-- hurting others in the name of your beliefs and values because you know what you're doing is right
-- CTB
-- Taking your kids with you in a CTB
-- Spending decades "mourning" and treating other kids/people that remind you of your loved one you lost as if they were your loved one
-- other things

If I seem a tad.... sensitive or specific. It's because these things have applied, or almost applied in my family (as far as the CTB and taking kids with in a CTB).

So yeah, I view lingering as a MASSIVE difference, that probably should offer suggestions to someone in month 6+ still suffering after a loss.

 

[Dear Flabby]

Just as an example.... or explanation.
Technically one is grieving, the other (lingering) isn't as it's more of a treatable psychological disorder.

Grieving is a natural process that ends over time

Lingering can can lead to
-- hurting others in the name of your beliefs and values because you know what you're doing is right
-- CTB
-- Taking your kids with you in a CTB
-- Spending decades "mourning" and treating other kids/people that remind you of your loved one you lost as if they were your loved one
-- other things

If I seem a tad.... sensitive or specific. It's because these things have applied, or almost applied in my family (as far as the CTB and taking kids with in a CTB).

So yeah, I view lingering as a MASSIVE difference, that probably should offer suggestions to someone in month 6+ still suffering after a loss.

Thank you for clarifying. I am so sorry that dysfunctional grieving has traumatized your family. The situation you allude to sounds heartbreaking. If you ever need to talk about that (or anything), please feel free to message me.
Sending hugs,
Flabs

 

[Broken Chimera]

One friend of mine made the commend to me once "grieve but don't linger" Sadly in cases like this the person like the mother is doing the opposite, she's lingering, and not really grieving.

Most ironic part, most of us wouldn't even know who they were if not for the mother and media keep on bringing it up.

We all like to think and hope we and people we know are important, but really we are only to our loved ones. No one else cares.

You're right. But at this point she's only hurting herself. And yeah, only loved ones will care what happens to us. A sad but true fact.

It's possible that she may be trying to help people who are in the same situation as her daughter was.

It's her way of grieving, let her grieve. Let's speak about them with empathy and compassion, regardless of what they say about us.

Thank you.

Like Carina said, she's not grieving she's lingering. She's reliving those events and it's destroying her.

 

[HadEnough1974]

You're right. But at this point she's only hurting herself. And yeah, only loved ones will care what happens to us. A sad but true fact.

Like Carina said, she's not grieving she's lingering. She's reliving those events and it's destroying her.

She needs time and space to realize that herself. For now, she views us as the enemy, the evil people who took her child away from her. Pain and suffering took her child away.

 

[Broken Chimera]

She needs time and space to realize that herself. For now, she views us as the enemy, the evil people who took her child away from her. Pain and suffering took her child away.

Exactly. But she can't see that. She's blinded by pain. We're not the bad guys. I never lost a child, but I have lost family and Ik how that feels to hold on to hate. It's like injecting acid into your body hoping it'll kill the ones who wronged you. It doesn't get you anywhere but more pain.

 

[HadEnough1974]

Exactly. But she can't see that. She's blinded by pain. We're not the bad guys. I never lost a child, but I have lost family and Ik how that feels to hold on to hate. It's like injecting acid into your body hoping it'll kill the ones who wronged you. It doesn't get you anywhere but more pain.

I know that she can't, at least not yet and maybe she never will. We can't be reactionary and fight hate with hate. Let's embrace them and educate them instead of hate them back.

 

[Empty Smile]

Hmmmmm..... My "troll detector" is going full mode right now....

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Hmmmmm..... My "troll detector" is going full mode right now....

Well, you didn't quote anyone or anything in particular, so dropping that little bomb seems a little troll-y. Care to elaborate and clear up the smoke?

 

[Empty Smile]

Well, you didn't quote anyone or anything in particular, so dropping that little bomb seems a little troll-y. Care to elaborate and clear up the smoke?

I won't mention the name of the person so conflict can be avoided. Let's just say by the way things are being worded, someone is not here for the right purpose.

I've been around sites long enough to detect bullshitters.

 

[jrums]

Sorry to hear that I hope this link helps explain it. https://www.mind.org.uk/information...-effects-of-antidepressants/#SuicidalFeelings

A friend of mine was on antidepressants and he lost his sex drive and it never came back so he was in a terrible state.

Cheers Geo

ADs did that and more to me. It's why I'm here. I'm damn glad for this site.
And I'm sorry for your loss Mrs. Bieber but we can't all be saved and many of us don't want to be.

 

[TelstraSuckAFatOne]

"Those people don't want to end their life. They just want to end their pain, because I know she would never want to leave us," Bieber said.​

I know it's just a couple of sentences, but this statement really stood out to me. I think the mother may be so upset at the idea that her daughter was willing to suicide and inadvertantly hurt the parents that instead she is distracting herself with blaming the forum itself.

took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I won't mention the name of the person so conflict can be avoided. Let's just say by the way things are being worded, someone is not here for the right purpose.

I've been around sites long enough to detect bullshitters.

Yeah, that raht thar is creating conflict and bullshit. No thanks, Trolly McTrollypants from Clan Stinkbomb.

 

[enjoy]

former journalism major here. professional journalism is contacting both sides/showing fair points on both sides to prevent bias. not only did they not interview any of us, but the screenshots they provided for the segment are all ones that have the feasibility to cast us in a negative light.

very unprofessional. very ridiculous. my condolences to the bieber family and all, but please leave us alone. we didn't teach your daughter how to be suicidal. she was already struggling and accessed methods here that can also be accessed in many other corners of the internet. no one here told her to kill herself. we aren't pro-suicide. we're pro-choice and support our fellow members whether they live or die. your daughter happened to choose ctb.

 

[Empty Smile]

Yeah, that raht thar is creating conflict and bullshit. No thanks, Trolly McTrollypants from Clan Stinkbomb.

Hmmm, for being worried about conflict and bullshit, you sure like to keep it going. Are you having a guilty conscience?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Hmmm, for being worried about conflict and bullshit, you sure like to keep it going. Are you having a guilty conscience?

Nice projection attempt. Good form, but the landing didn't stick.

 

[Empty Smile]

Nice projection attempt. Good form, but the landing didn't stick.

It stuck just fine. Keep your trolling going, I won't lose any sleep.

 

[LMFAO FOCKERS]

@GoodPersonEffed @Empty Smile


Really ladies??? LMFAO

 

[Empty Smile]

@GoodPersonEffed @Empty Smile


Really ladies??? LMFAO


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Ladies???

*Looks in pants...*

No, I'm pretty sure I'm a male....

GoodPersonEffed on the other hand.....

 

[Jumper Geo]

Ladies???

*Looks in pants...*

No, I'm pretty sure I'm a male....

GoodPersonEffed on the other hand.....

I'm lost for words it's getting a bit depressing, so I hope this link says it for me,

 

[Anon2662]

@GoodPersonEffed @Empty Smile


Really ladies??? LMFAO


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I wish there was a laughing face reaction

 

[LMFAO FOCKERS]

Ladies???

*Looks in pants...*

No, I'm pretty sure I'm a male....

GoodPersonEffed on the other hand.....

My bad, I genuinely thought u were a woman at some point. Not sure why. May have mixed you up with someone else...

In that case...



Now its even...

 

[Empty Smile]

I'm lost for words it's getting a bit depressing, so I hope this link says it for me,

LMAO