Well, this just sucks. He survived N.

[lifeisbutadream]

Either N was fake or old (which significantly reduces its effectiveness), or he took a smaller dose or was found too quickly and received medical care. There is no theoretical possibility to survive N in the appropriate dose, within the expiration date and without timely medical intervention.

Do you think age significantly reduces the effectiveness of powdered N? I thought that it was very stable and that even old prescribed N sleeping pills from about 70 years ago, if you could find them, should be as good as new. Am I wrong? A few years ago I did test some that was about eleven years old and it seemed as good as new.

 

[Valhala]

Do you think age significantly reduces the effectiveness of powdered N? I thought that it was very stable and that even old prescribed N sleeping pills from about 70 years ago, if you could find them, should be as good as new. Am I wrong? A few years ago I did test some that was about eleven years old and it seemed as good as new.

I was thinking of solution N, in powder form it is much more stable, but it certainly loses its effectiveness even in that form over time.

 

[nogods4me]

I was under the impression that one of SN and N were safer than the other in terms of brain damage if found before passing. Is there any consensus as to which one is better for that? Are they both fine? I thought that if found after taking N one would be likely to end up as a vegetable. Is that more the case for SN or is it in fact never likely to happen for either?

 

[intr0verse]

I was under the impression that one of SN and N were safer than the other in terms of brain damage if found before passing. Is there any consensus as to which one is better for that? Are they both fine? I thought that if found after taking N one would be likely to end up as a vegetable. Is that more the case for SN or is it in fact never likely to happen for either?

I don't know much about SN but i think there's an antidote to it. For N there isn't such thing, mostly supportive measures to keep you breathing until the drug is eliminated.
With N you are safe (no brain damage) as long as you're found while still breathing.

 

[J&L383]

Could physical strength impede the effectiveness of N? Most of the people at Dignitas are very frail.

Perhaps, but a 40 year old who recently died, who was a quadriplegic for 10 years, was otherwise very healthy. (I'm pretty sure he died at Dignitas, although that isn't documented).

 

[lifeisbutadream]

To be even more certain you can do as the actress who played Auntie Em in The Wizard of Oz did. She took a sleeping pill overdose - that is an n overdose because such were sleeping pills in 1962 - lay down, and tied a plastic bag over her head.

 

[bananaolympus]

Well no method has a 100% chance of death

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

We know nothing about what this guy did except that he allegedly took 15 grams of it. We don't know if it was pure, we don't know how he took it, if he threw it all up, etc and etc. So no reason to panic in my opinion.

 

[withouthope]

This testimony is clearly false. A dose of 15 grams of Nembutal is absolutely lethal, and there is no rational possibility of surviving such a high dose without immediate medical intervention, which would still not guarantee the absence of permanent damage. The idea that someone could be "undiscovered for two days" after taking a lethal dose of Nembutal is completely implausible, as intoxication quickly leads to unconsciousness, and without prompt medical care, it would be impossible to stay alive.
Furthermore, the alleged "full recovery" described is equally unrealistic. Those who survive a suicide attempt with Nembutal typically suffer severe damage to vital organs like the liver and kidneys, and recovery takes months, not a quick return to normalcy. So, the idea of a rapid and complete recovery without lasting consequences is medically unfounded.
In short, this story is not credible. Surviving a lethal dose of Nembutal is virtually impossible without severe damage or death, and such accounts, especially on platforms like Reddit, should be taken with great caution.

Suicide with Nembutal, if taken in the appropriate lethal doses, is absolutely lethal and leaves no chance of survival. The lethal doses of Nembutal, usually ranging from 10 to 20 grams, cause respiratory arrest that leads to death with a 100% probability. There are no documented cases of survival after a lethal dose of Nembutal, neither without severe damage nor with recovery. Nembutal, when taken in lethal doses, is a method of suicide that is 100% certain, with no chance of survival.
Therefore, any statement claiming "no method is 100% certain" is not valid in this case. Nembutal, when taken correctly, leads to certain death.

That's simply not true. Somebody shared a report above of a guy surviving 13 g N who made a full recovery in a week. And this isn't the first account I've read. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3968666/