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Jul 29, 2021
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My alcoholic, emotionally abusive narcissist mother made my life growing up absolute hell. Now she is in end-stage alcoholism mid 70s and not making any sense when she talks, only gets out of her recliner where she sleeps to use the bathroom (pisses herself often as well wearing adult diapers) and eats nothing, though she is severely bloated and obese due to fluid retention or whatever because of the decades of alcoholism. She used to be SUPER obsessive about cleanliness and perfection in the house and with school stuff, and would rip my to shreds for any imperfection I had growing up.

To compound this, I am forced to stay at home again, at age 35, because of my own severe mental illness, bipolar with a recent 3rd episode of psychosis where everything I had been building or working on was destroyed/lost, I posted about my ridiculous delusions a LOT on social media, and now I have criminal charges to boot. Combining both of these situations (mother+mental illness/effects) is extremely difficult, and while I see my suicide as inevitable now, I'm not sure what I'm waiting on to begin the fast for SN.

Part of it is not wanting to ruin the remaining years for poor dad, but to be honest, it was his weakness and inability to put his foot down during the early years of my mom's alcoholism that led to the current situations. She is ABSOLUTELY the most responsible for my mental illness and failure to grow into a functioning adult. I'm beginning to lose my trepidation about just taking the SN at home one night. I have nothing to look forward to, tens of thousands in debt with criminal charges at age 35. In large part, my issues are due to years of prolonged emotional abuse from my mother that became worse over time because of the alcoholism that my weak father ALSO did not put his foot down about or ever intervene on.

I guess what I'm saying is-my mom is barely eating anything, not drinking water, cognitively rapidly declining, not moving at all, and only drinking wine that my dad is still giving her. I feel like she could die at any moment. I am wondering about timing re: my CTB because of this. I was concerned about the effect on my Dad but tbh he kinda dug his own grave on this one. I dunno whether to do it, before or after my mom passes, which I am seriously thinking is gonna be within a month or two, MAX.

I can't get a hotel without some mega hoops to jump through that wouldn't really make any sense to my Dad, even I don't have a car rn. We live out in the country so wandering off onto someone else's land and into a forest is a possibility and just taking the SN there, but then I feel like he'd damn near have a heart attack once I go missing for any amount of time. I feel doing it at home is the best of a trash situation.

And that's just it-this is an excruciating situation without any ray of hope. I spend hours and hours reading stuff on SS all day every day, or about children of alcoholics, doom and gloom stuff on the collapse subreddit, etc. I dunno if it's survival instinct or what that's keeping me from going for it. Perhaps the finality of it is the most jarring part. That's just...it. It's all over. Done.

I have had good memories at various periods in the past, even almost got my shit together as an adult teaching ESL in Asia and working on design projects, but nothing was sustainable into adulthood and the emergence of severe bipolar with psychosis into having a permanent criminal record (for dumb shit, y'all) has destroyed my hope of having any quality of life. It's hard enough out there for competent people these days to make ends meet and have a family, much less for me. All I can do is mull the crushing realization that I am an abject failure and feel massively crippling anxiety obsessing about my recent psychosis/mom's decline as I await for "perfect timing" which doesn't exist for most things in life, much less something like this.

Just such a surreal feeling. Not choosing where to go on a vacation or what to eat, but when and where to end my last breath. Bizarre and surreal. Never thought it'd come to this. Thanks for reading if you made it this far, and I hope you are OK right now wherever you are.
 
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Stopthepain

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Jul 11, 2021
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Sorry to hear you are suffering so much..
I guess u are right there is no good Timing only a time in which nobody is gonna find you too soon..
I think it is all about making a decision and pulling the trigger.

Still i hope a miracle will give u a life that is worth living and makes you wanna stay by choice. If not i wish u a peaceful journey.
 
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Aug 28, 2021
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It doesn't work for me too. So I have to do it on impulse. Maybe you too ;)
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I'm sorry you are going through this. Existence really is a nightmare. I understand it is an awful feeling to be in a hopeless situation. The survival instinct is the thing that holds me back, but I get how it can be surreal thinking about no longer being here, as existence is all we know. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.
 
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Aug 2, 2021
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Part of it is not wanting to ruin the remaining years for poor dad, but to be honest, it was his weakness and inability to put his foot down during the early years of my mom's alcoholism that led to the current situations.
While its ok to have empathy for your dad (as well as your mom), assuming the job of being your dad's caretaker while he is actively enabling your mother's demise is something I would not do. It is not your responsibility to consider his feelings at the expense of your own feelings. At 35 years old, you are deep into a blackhole and you only need to worry about saving yourself. They are actively making the choice to be in this situation. You absolutely don't have to follow.


I am wondering about timing re: my CTB because of this. I was concerned about the effect on my Dad but tbh he kinda dug his own grave on this one. I dunno whether to do it, before or after my mom passes, which I am seriously thinking is gonna be within a month or two, MAX.
The body of an alcoholic can unbelievably thrive in this debilitated state for a long time especially when it continues to get the dependency fuel. I wouldn't create anything in my mind (especially dates) that are dependent on a dying alcoholic. Who knows. She could go to the hospital for a few days and get enough to care get back out and extend her days. Even eating a few grains of toast with her fuel could aid in keeping her alive.


I can't get a hotel without some mega hoops to jump through that wouldn't really make any sense to my Dad, even I don't have a car rn. We live out in the country so wandering off onto someone else's land and into a forest is a possibility and just taking the SN there, but then I feel like he'd damn near have a heart attack once I go missing for any amount of time. I feel doing it at home is the best of a trash situation.
I absolutely think you need to get out of this house on a daily basis even if its just to take a walk and think. Think about a life that you could potentially build without them or think about CTB. Think whatever you like!

I don't want to tell you anything about when and how to take your SN as that is completely up to you. However I do know that there is no possibility of having a clear head in this toxic environment. A clear head is absolutely what you need the most right now. Forget what your dad would say! Just tell him you need time to yourself; you can't take being there anymore; and it is not your responsibility to actively aid in both of their demise. Your dad may not like what you have to say but you're entitled to do so. You're entitled to feel however you feel about this mess. You are entitled to feel like you have a right to take care of yourself first and you absolutely should.

On a side note be aware that becoming a "pleaser" for your parents is one of the habits a child in this type of environment can develop. However your counter strength to this is that you are approaching your late 30's heading toward 40. Often around this time people start to develop a voice. By the time 40's hits, one starts to not give a fuck. We just say whatever the hell we feel. Why? Because we know the other shit that we did before did not get us what we most wanted and needed, so going full opposite becomes the go-to option. In fact the more we do it, the healthier and stronger we become because we start to focus on other things rather than being liked. the need for approval, or the desire to be "good" and appear nice. And especially if one is headed toward CTB, one often starts to think: What is the point of not saying X when I'm going to exit anyway? I look forward to this happening for you. It may be the one glimmer of hope that can get you the hell out of this mess even if its just to CTB sometime later on.*

And that's just it-this is an excruciating situation without any ray of hope.
*see statement above. They are related.


I have had good memories at various periods in the past, even almost got my shit together as an adult teaching ESL in Asia and working on design projects, but nothing was sustainable into adulthood and the emergence of severe bipolar with psychosis into having a permanent criminal record (for dumb shit, y'all) has destroyed my hope of having any quality of life. It's hard enough out there for competent people these days to make ends meet and have a family, much less for me. All I can do is mull the crushing realization that I am an abject failure and feel massively crippling anxiety obsessing about my recent psychosis/mom's decline as I await for "perfect timing" which doesn't exist for most things in life, much less something like this.

Just such a surreal feeling. Not choosing where to go on a vacation or what to eat, but when and where to end my last breath. Bizarre and surreal. Never thought it'd come to this. Thanks for reading if you made it this far, and I hope you are OK right now wherever you are.

Hi @cyowe002,

I don't believe there is perfect timing for anything in life (much less a suicide). Perfect timing is a myth perpetuated by Hollywood and religious folks; I'd argue the idea of perfect timing can certainly uplift but seems to be used more so for manipulation. Therefore I don't want to pose that idea towards an impending CTB date. Anything you choose with a clear mind and sound heart IS absolute perfect timing for you.

Children of an alcoholic parent often inappropriately assume the role of caretaker. It can be even much worse when there is an enabling parent (your father). And if the enabler parent is the same sex as the child or if the child even slightly identifies / empathizes with the role of the non-alcoholic parent, the child can adapt to assuming both the enabler and caretaker roles in the household.

I imagine that growing up as you was often horrific. I can imagine how emotionally unstable things were for you. These sorts of experiences definitely contribute to ones ability to become a thriving adult, including acquiring a criminal record for "dumb shit." Please do not beat yourself up for this! However I think that getting out of this situation can also contribute to your well being. It is obviously more difficult for someone who has suffered severe emotional abuse to get themselves together; especially if one has a criminal record. But I do think that your criminal record can be overcome especially if it is for obvious dumb shit that anyone could see was reasonable based on what you were going through. I hope that you will consider this as an option.

I don't know whether the problem is the background check, or the initial application questions that poses the greatest challenge for you. But if it is the application you could write a kick ass letter explaining your situation, the circumstance, as well as the process you went through to fix it and learn from it. Attach it to your application. Even if the letter is bullshit, I assure you plenty of people write bullshit feelings and letters to employers and even school admissions offices to get accepted. If its the latter background check then preemptively discuss it in an interview if you have indications its going well. Whats most important to a potential employer is that you are sincere in your attempt to forge a path forward that includes no criminal activity and a best attempt at displaying accountability.




I really hope that you can get to a place of peace and solace with your family situation and your decisions.


Also sorry about the way I broke up this post. I hope its not too disorganized. There were a few things I wanted to highlight individually in addition to giving a full response.
 

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