Wage slavery

[okyeah]

How am I supposed to accept my life earning 16.50/hr ($13/hr after taxes) with massive student loan debt and no personal life to speak of? How am I supposed to maintain hope and enjoy my job when my personal life has shown the same trend of unhappiness since high school? What is the difference between my life and slavery? My life is actually worse than slavery because of the extreme alienation that hasn't left me since I was young. I would gladly accept this shitty life if I had someone to love and care about. But that would have happened by now if it was ever going to fucking happen. The fact is that there is something fundamentally wrong and uncurable about me. Big reason I need to die.

The only way out of this hell is either killing myself or becoming some sort of extreme success - which is having a career of extreme responsibility (doctor, lawyer, etc.). Then you barely have any time at all in your life - another version of shit. I just have daydreams in my head that this success would improve my personal life also...But that's all a bunch of shit and deep down I know it.

 

[Final Escape]

How am I supposed to accept my life earning 16.50/hr ($13/hr after taxes) with massive student loan debt and no personal life to speak of? How am I supposed to maintain hope and enjoy my job when my personal life has shown the same trend of unhappiness since high school? What is the difference between my life and slavery? My life is actually worse than slavery because of the extreme alienation that hasn't left me since I was young. I would gladly accept this shitty life if I had someone to love and care about. But that would have happened by now if it was ever going to fucking happen. The fact is that there is something fundamentally wrong and uncurable about me. Big reason I need to die.

The only way out of this hell is either killing myself or becoming some sort of extreme success - which is having a career of extreme responsibility (doctor, lawyer, etc.). Then you barely have any time at all in your life - another version of shit. I just have daydreams in my head that this success would improve my personal life also...But that's all a bunch of shit and deep down I know it.

I know right? These days the money we do earn is worth less so even though u make above minimum wage. Sure doesn't feel like it. The only thing u can do is improve your skills or work at something on the side that could become a business if u have energy, motivation, creativity, and time. College is largely worthless unless maybe u go for something really high demand, and scarcity of people able to do that job. If too many people can do what u do your less valuable in market. But really the reason many people don't make enough these days but work their ass off is do to government meddling in the economy in numerous ways that undermine individual person's ability to earn enough and be able to save and invest.

 

[Comatose11]

Agreed. Work your ass off so you can live pay check to pay check. If you have any medical problems, you're fucked.

 

[Midnight]

Agree with all the above. If we can't buy our happiness/future then what's the point. Society is built arround money and we are forced in it since birth so it's not like there are any other options.

 

[Tiburcio]

Fuck life.

And after all the things you said we can't "give up" because we are being just lazy, or complain about it because others have it worse and we are LUCKY for having money...

Honestly, who can feel worthy fighting for keeping this? In life you have to do EVERYTHING except living properly. If you waste a huge part of your time doing something you hate, causes you pain and it's clearly harmful of doing, what's the pount in continuing this?

Agree with all the above. If we can't buy our happiness/future then what's the point. Society is built arround money and we are forced in it since birth so it's not like there are any other options.

I agree with this.

As he said, what's the point? And if there aren't other better options, why trying to continue this?

 

[Oblivion]

Lol, i make 2.5$ an hour, you're lucky to make 13

 

[okyeah]

Lol, i make 2.5$ an hour, you're lucky to make 13

Lol this can't be real. You in the USA? that is wayyy below minimum wage

 

[Oblivion]

Lol this can't be real. You in the USA? that is wayyy below minimum wage

No in lebanon

 

[okyeah]

No in lebanon

That's awful man. Maybe cost of living is cheaper there though. With all my debt I don't really earn much actual money. It all gets sucked out to pay fees and expenses like rent, insurance, gas, etc.

 

[Midnight]

Yeah can't really compare wages in different country's,other parts of the world. I make 14.5€ but after tax i'm lucky to keep more than 8-9€. Even then i need to pay yearly taxes etc etc. But whe don't have insane student loans and no insane health care bills. I left school with 0 debt and still do. So apples and oranges kind of thing. However the guy from lebanon must be really at the low end of the scale. Sorry to hear that.

 

[Severen]

No in lebanon

Everything is insanely expensive in the USA though.

 

[creatureoflight]

No in lebanon

Actually for Lebanon this is not such a bad wage?
13 dollars in America will buy you a loaf of bread, some milk and maybe if you are lucky a tomato or two-it's insanely expensive over there

 

[Oblivion]

well a decent living wage here would be around a 1000$ a month, minimum wage is 450$ + around 140$ for transportation , so i make 600$ and commission on sales, i made 135$ last month in commission, so that's 735$. i live with my dad and his wife though, so i don't pay rent, rent here is atleast 300$ a month and up.

 

[creatureoflight]

well a decent living wage here would be around a 1000$ a month, minimum wage is 450$ + around 140$ for transportation , so i make 600$ and commission on sales, i made 135$ last month in commission, so that's 735$. i live with my dad and his wife though, so i don't pay rent, rent here is atleast 300$ a month and up.

Lebanon is that expensive?
I live in Western Europe in an expensive country and some people here live off of 800 Euro per month. So yoir situation is not great but you are doing okay-ish

 

[Oblivion]

Lebanon is that expensive?
I live in Western Europe in an expensive country and some people here live off of 800 Euro per month. So yoir situation is not great but you are doing okay-ish

how can someone live on 800 euros in europe? and yes lebanon is expensive

 

[GodKnows]

I make $0 per month.

 

[Severen]

Lebanon is that expensive?
I live in Western Europe in an expensive country and some people here live off of 800 Euro per month. So yoir situation is not great but you are doing okay-ish

In the USA, you would be homeless with just 800 euro a month.

 

[raskolnikov]

LOL

I make €5.50/h and I live in one of the top ten most expensive cities in the world as of 2018. No retirement plan, no paid if sick, no paid when on "vacations". And when they have enough of you, they simply tell you goodbye. And all of this is allowed by law... and regularly happens to young and less young people even graduated with highest grades.

Our country is just falling apart.

 

[creatureoflight]

how can someone live on 800 euros in europe? and yes lebanon is expensive

it's actually very common-there are many students and people on welfare who have to do it all the time and some people are even single parents.

 

[Tiburcio]

LOL

I make €5.50/h and I live in one of the top ten most expensive cities in the world as of 2018. No retirement plan, no paid if sick, no paid when on "vacations". And when they have enough of you, they simply tell you goodbye. And all of this is allowed by law... and regularly happens to young and less young people even graduated with highest grades.

Our country is just falling apart.

What a shame. Sorry dude.

 

[KCN]

how can someone live on 800 euros in europe? and yes lebanon is expensive

In some European countries young people can get paid even under 500 Euros a month and it's not for menial tasks, rather some "real office work". I just hope that the whole institution of workfare and the whole monetary system collapses, but it won't be that soon unfortunately

 

[stellabelle]

How am I supposed to accept my life earning 16.50/hr ($13/hr after taxes) with massive student loan debt and no personal life to speak of? How am I supposed to maintain hope and enjoy my job when my personal life has shown the same trend of unhappiness since high school? What is the difference between my life and slavery? My life is actually worse than slavery because of the extreme alienation that hasn't left me since I was young. I would gladly accept this shitty life if I had someone to love and care about. But that would have happened by now if it was ever going to fucking happen. The fact is that there is something fundamentally wrong and uncurable about me. Big reason I need to die.

The only way out of this hell is either killing myself or becoming some sort of extreme success - which is having a career of extreme responsibility (doctor, lawyer, etc.). Then you barely have any time at all in your life - another version of shit. I just have daydreams in my head that this success would improve my personal life also...But that's all a bunch of shit and deep down I know it.

Oh I absolutely hear you on all of this. It's so hard to make it or get by. Society is full of debt and there's really no way out of it. Sometimes no matter what you make, it's really never enough and the chances of clawing out of poverty are slim to none. The middle class continues to disapear and the wealthy exploit the poor.