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toomuchtimetodie

"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
Mar 13, 2020
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Please can you refrain from replying if you are against the method completely and just here to say "choose something else". Thank you.

Ive been waltzing around the front of trains as they pass stations and come in and don't see a problem but does anyone know for certain (UK) of anything i should be worried about laying myself along the track to crush my skull, as in im worried they have 'suicide safety precautions' like a mechanical thing to bounce my head away from the wheel and ending up paralyzed.
I am going to find a mainline for a speed train so likely/hopefully be a virgin train, (serve the fuckers right for upping my package the year i die) a long tunnel exit when its dark so hopefully the drivers arent quite on form. To be honest the thought of the horn is scaring me coming up against the roar of the engine and mental dread ill already be facing and focusing on my body trying to save itself and squivel out the way.
If they have things in place to upset this attempt im just going to have to take my chances with a quick walk on to the track moments before it leaves the tunnel, if this will be the case. Does anybody who knows the human anatomy know the best stance youd take for a certain death to do as much damage to the skul/brain as possible. By stance i mean 'facing the train, kneeling, backwards etc'
I have travelled by train for years and know all too well how annoying it is when the services get distrupted, but whats more annoying is the lack of empathy, euthanasia and every other sht thing in this world that make it so actively and psycologically difficult to off oneself with dignity.
Appreciate any help with this.
 
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Hello,
Despite your desire to CTB by train, I would refrain from doing that.
Because: damaging yourself you may cause a permanent damage to the one who will be in front of you, in the train.
PTSD is not the thing that everybody of us would like to experience, so I would recommend to take a look there:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/
 
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"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
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Hello,
Despite your desire to CTB by train, I would refrain from doing that.
Because: damaging yourself you may cause a permanent damage to the one who will be in front of you, in the train.
PTSD is not the thing that everybody of us would like to experience, so I would recommend to take a look there:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/
I'm far from insensitive but when signing up the staff are given whole presentations on this and they get a good payout and decent amount of time off with pay.
Regards
 
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toomuchtimetodie

"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
Mar 13, 2020
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If you don't trust me, then at least read this:
Thats not speaking for every driver though. Is it like every train driver is somewhat different from from the majority of people who exist today with no empathy. The majority of nurses and carers have nothing but empathy and see these things nearly everyday going to work.
 
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You're not going to get many supporters of this method here. I don't support this. Not only will you traumatize the driver, you're going to delay people's trips, tie up fist responders for hours for an investigation, lots of things.

That being said, getting hit by a 150 ton object is going to knock you flying at a very high speed. Your "stance" is pretty much irrelevant because you weigh less than 1% of the trains weight. You will go flying. it's all up to chance at that point. Will you smash your skull? Maybe. Will you land flat on your back and break your spine but leave your brain intact? Maybe.
 
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@toomuchtimetodie Who ever you are. If you got the balls to go through with it, DAMNNNN. That was not an attempt to dare you to do it. Just thinking that will take some guts to try and position yourself and make sure you stay that way as your hear the train approaching.
I feel sorry for the conductor and/or passengers..or the community it happens in.
 
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@toomuchtimetodie Who ever you are. If you got the balls to go through with it, DAMNNNN. That was not an attempt to dare you to do it. Just thinking that will take some guts to try and position yourself and make sure you stay that way as your hear the train approaching.
I feel sorry for the conductor and/or passengers..or the community it happens in.
I hate loud voices myself so would be terrified hearing a horn...
 
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Skathon

Skathon

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It is a form of decapitation. The wheel should sever your cervical vertebrae: like a guillotine would.
 
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Some years ago I was actually travelling in the lead carriage of a train one evening when a young man sprung from the bushes and threw himself in front. The driver had roughly three or four seconds of reaction time and didn't use the horn, just the emergency brakes. The man had adopted a standing position directly facing the driver's cab. He was thrown to the side of the train, I would suspect by the loudness of the thud that he was knocked out, although obviously there is no way to know this. He was pronounced dead at the scene, although his death was neither instant, nor one would imagine, pleasant.

A relative of mine works as a cleaner at a train station and has had to deal with three suicides by train in her career. I'm not going to preach about the risks of PTSD and the selfishness of involving a third party in an exit attempt, but I must impress upon you the violent and graphic nature of these deaths. Body parts are scattered, arms and legs are commonly ripped away from the torso, blood splatters like the aftermath of an explosion.

If you have loved ones that you are leaving behind then please do think very carefully about the consequences for them. Body parts are usually gathered up by a specialist team and I'm lead to believe are incinerated. Your body would be a mangled mess, your family deprived of that one last opportunity to kiss you goodbye. It may not be important to you, but it's important to me, I know my family will heal more soundly to look at my body and imagine that I'm just sleeping peacefully, rather than to be tortured by thoughts of my grim, violent and excruciatingly painful final moments.

If you're still considering this method, some general thoughts: Pay attention to the track speed limits (trains may also travelling more slowly than you think due to weather or congestion), pick a time late in the evening to minimise disruption to the rest of the network and wear dark matte clothing to decrease your visibility to the driver.

For sake of argument, there is also a variation on this method which involves leaning out of the window in the train doors as a high-speed train passes on the other track. This results in a pretty swift decapitation, but again it's a rather horrific scene you're leaving behind for fellow passengers and a blood-spattered windshield that may haunt the other driver too.
 
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Some years ago I was actually travelling in the lead carriage of a train one evening when a young man sprung from the bushes and threw himself in front. The driver had roughly three or four seconds of reaction time and didn't use the horn, just the emergency brakes. The man had adopted a standing position directly facing the driver's cab. He was thrown to the side of the train, I would suspect by the loudness of the thud that he was knocked out, although obviously there is no way to know this. He was pronounced dead at the scene, although his death was neither instant, nor one would imagine, pleasant.

A relative of mine works as a cleaner at a train station and has had to deal with three suicides by train in her career. I'm not going to preach about the risks of PTSD and the selfishness of involving a third party in an exit attempt, but I must impress upon you the violent and graphic nature of these deaths. Body parts are scattered, arms and legs are commonly ripped away from the torso, blood splatters like the aftermath of an explosion.

If you have loved ones that you are leaving behind then please do think very carefully about the consequences for them. Body parts are usually gathered up by a specialist team and I'm lead to believe are incinerated. Your body would be a mangled mess, your family deprived of that one last opportunity to kiss you goodbye. It may not be important to you, but it's important to me, I know my family will heal more soundly to look at my body and imagine that I'm just sleeping peacefully, rather than to be tortured by thoughts of my grim, violent and excruciatingly painful final moments.

If you're still considering this method, some general thoughts: Pay attention to the track speed limits (trains may also travelling more slowly than you think due to weather or congestion), pick a time late in the evening to minimise disruption to the rest of the network and wear dark matte clothing to decrease your visibility to the driver.

For sake of argument, there is also a variation on this method which involves leaning out of the window in the train doors as a high-speed train passes on the other track. This results in a pretty swift decapitation, but again it's a rather horrific scene you're leaving behind for fellow passengers and a blood-spattered windshield that may haunt the other driver too.
I want to add to this. Not only is this method a terrible way to die, but even with a clean decapition you don't die instantly. You could be conscious of it for up to a minute. If you're serious just keep that in mind.
 
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I want to add to this. Not only is this method a terrible way to die, but even with a clean decapition you don't die instantly. You could be conscious of it for up to a minute. If you're serious just keep that in mind.

The thought of being conscious, in the most excruciating pain of your life and yet being completely unable to move, or even scream would fill most with terror.
 
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in the most excruciating pain of your life
If the brain and the spinal cord are not connected, it is impossible to feel anything.
 
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If the brain and the spinal cord are not connected, it is impossible to feel anything.

That is true, although you'd expect that there would be at least a second or two of extreme pain. Any level of consciousness post decapitation surely wouldn't be pleasant though, painless or otherwise.
 
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Skathon

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That is true, although you'd expect that there would be at least a second or two of extreme pain.
I wish I could test it... Several times, I mean.
Any level of consciousness post decapitation surely wouldn't be pleasant though, painless or otherwise.
It may be: owing to the loss of oxygen and hypoesthesia.
...which sounds like my previous attempt, hm.
 
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Wouldn't the best way be to put your neck on the line so the train decapitates you?
If the brain and the spinal cord are not connected, it is impossible to feel anything.
Have you got a source for that? I want to be sure before I try it.
 
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You are not going to get many supporters on here for this method. You can search other train threads and you will see that the responses will be the same.
 
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Have you got a source for that? I want to be sure before I try it.
I do not have a single one (for it will require to find a link from more than ten years ago), but it is rather often mentioned in various medical articles.
"The spinal cord is the main pathway for information connecting the brain and peripheral nervous system." © Wikipedia
"...to measure the time duration following decapitation for rats to become fully unconscious, unable to perceive distress and pain. It was estimated that this point was reached within 3–4 seconds, correlating closely with results found in other studies on rodents (2.7 seconds, and 3–6 seconds)." © Wikipedia
 
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3 people have all died in my area via train ctb this week alone. None survived. A train weighs tonnes, just being caught by one is enough to amputate a leg. Worst thing that could happen is being caught the wrong way but I doubt there's much chance of survival. Just it's not nice for people to see, and whilst we're unhappy in our own lives, it's enough to traumatize someone for life. Plus they lose their jobs after witnessing a certain amount anyways I'm pretty sure. I think you should probably reconsider although obviously that choice is up to you. But personally, I don't think I could bare knowing I might do that to someone.
 
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It looks like you thought things out pretty well, OP. Death is a near guarantee when standing in front of a high-speed train.
 
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I heard that if a train driver witnesses 3 deaths I believe they lost their jobs? I don't know for sure and I suppose it depends on companies. I did state I didn't know for sure but even then, I think one is traumatizing enough for most people and enough for them to give up their jobs.
 
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palatinus

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Please can you refrain from replying if you are against the method completely and just here to say "choose something else"
Can I?

Sure, I can say it in British.

Anover breedin' mefod, bruv.
 
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Apr 14, 2019
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Yes but if you're brain is COMPLETELY crushed it would be instant. Maybe not a for a clean decapitation but this likely wouldn't be clean. I wouldn't want to use this method but I'm in such bad shape that if there was no other choice I would have to.
And honestly I'm more concerned with my family that a random train driver (who is probably a pro-lifer like most of the mindless jackasses walking around). And I SURELY wouldn't be concerned about making people late for work. But psych drugs destroyed my emotions completely including empathy. That's why I'm going to CTB. But there are better methods.
 
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If the brain and the spinal cord are not connected, it is impossible to feel anything.
That is true, although you'd expect that there would be at least a second or two of extreme pain.

I totally misread this and made a snarky reply. I quickly realized I was in error and went to delete the reply but mods beat me to it. Apologies to those I quoted for misreading and being snarky.
 
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"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
Mar 13, 2020
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Thanks for the feedback folks. Those claiming it's selfish on the community. I might have become overly cynical than i care to believe, but i really don't believe anyone other than the driver will be effected, i hope the driver knows how to play the system or someone who does to advise him and milks every penny he can in damages. And for most the passengers it will be a usual story of "some selfish sod jumped in front the train, hope they suffered something terrible". And hopefully for the rest of people like me i will be one more statistic to society that euthanasia for all is common sense if youve proven you wish not to exist even if youre not 'ill' though i am physically and mentally ill i'm not considered ill enough that even if i had the means to go to switzerland i couldn't. Like i say my last wish is for walk in centres where you can be supported or simply a place to go and blow your head off. If were really an evolved species, we shouldn't have to worry about ending up paralyzed and kept alive on life support.
Best regards all.
 
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Money ain't gonna fix the train driver's trauma. Just saying.
 
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That's nothing as far as I'm concerned, and here's why: I was left to die in a hospital (that's right a hospital) and could barely breathe, muscles were tightening up and I suffered severe damage. The ptsd is humongous let me tell you. The train driver would be dealing with some serious ptsd as well...yes maybe that's not a very good idea
Peace/hugs❤️
 
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"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
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That's nothing as far as I'm concerned, and here's why: I was left to die in a hospital (that's right a hospital) and could barely breathe, muscles were tightening up and I suffered severe damage. The ptsd is humongous let me tell you. The train driver would be dealing with some serious ptsd as well...yes maybe that's not a very good idea
Peace/hugs❤
At age 19-23 i was getting heavy bleeds from my back passage due to an underlaying gastro deformity. Each time i would bleed to my haemoglobin went down to 60 which 1 digit more is usually respitorary depression/. I went into crdiac arrest severel time and was requesting forms to sign for DNR as i was considered too delirious to think clearly i went through this and cost the nhs alot because the first surgeon was incompetant and didnt see the problem from the very first CT scan or he either took a look at me and decided he didn't like the look of me so it would be funny to see me die/suffer. It wasn't for nearly four years that i got the diagnosis after every camera going, i also had a phobia of needles at the time and was being prodded every 5 minutes because they could never get a vein or it would calapse due to so little blood. I haven't cried ptsd here though I DO think it had a huge impact on my mental health, but
What makes you think youre the only person who has suffered?
 
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