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Gardener59

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So. Some people get on my nerves with this "everyone has a purpose, life is a gift, the world is beautiful" yada yada nonsense.

Life to me is not a gift. Life is an obligation to go to work to pay bills that never end. Life is an obligation to help those around you and somehow stay alive and thrive for them. Life is an obligation to seem psychologically okay when you are not, just to make ends meet and keep your freedom.

I am tired of the obligation. I am tired of giving my all and still letting people down when really all I want is to check out. I'm ready to go.

But then what is on the other side of death? Is it more of the same? More mistakes for me to make? More beings for me to let down, God included?

In my opinion we were damned as soon as we were conceived in our mother's womb. Death in this life would only be the beginning of the trouble in the next. There never is an end to the suffering because we can't truly erase our existence.
 
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There's an easy solution to this. You just need to lower you're IQ by about 30 points. Then you will happily accept all those empty platitudes.
 
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So. Some people get on my nerves with this "everyone has a purpose, life is a gift, the world is beautiful" yada yada nonsense.

Life to me is not a gift. Life is an obligation to go to work to pay bills that never end. Life is an obligation to help those around you and somehow stay alive and thrive for them. Life is an obligation to seem psychologically okay when you are not, just to make ends meet and keep your freedom.

I am tired of the obligation. I am tired of giving my all and still letting people down when really all I want is to check out. I'm ready to go.

But then what is on the other side of death? Is it more of the same? More mistakes for me to make? More beings for me to let down, God included?

In my opinion we were damned as soon as we were conceived in our mother's womb. Death in this life would only be the beginning of the trouble in the next. There never is an end to the suffering because we can't truly erase our existence.
Yeah all true what you say about life. And the worst part is aging. Most of you are young. When you get older it really hits the fan, the deterioration accellerates every thing gets worse, everything, pains, mind goes, diseases , every day a living hell. Nobody wants to hire you . you don't exist. And you can't work even if someone would hire you. I wish i would never have been born. Now i have to do all this suicide stuff which is hard and worrysome because if i don't over engineer it i fear ending up with brain damage but alive in a worse off condition. I just don't want to do anything . I don't want to even research methods plan and do it . i wish i could just die by wishing it today.

But actually i welcome death . I 'm 99% sure i will cease to exist a second after i'm trully dead. To me death is escape from this wretched existence. I don't fear death i fear failure in a suicide attempt and remaining alive in a worse condition. that's the only thing holding me back from killing myself today.
 
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Mizzmini45

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Yeah all true what you say about life. And the worst part is aging. Most of you are young. When you get older it really hits the fan, the deterioration accellerates every thing gets worse, everything, pains, mind goes, diseases , every day a living hell. Nobody wants to hire you . you don't exist. And you can't work even if someone would hire you. I wish i would never have been born. Now i have to do all this suicide stuff which is hard and worrysome because if i don't over engineer it i fear ending up with brain damage but alive in a worse off condidtion. I just don't want to do anything . I don't want to even research methods plan and do it . i wish i could just die by wishing it today.
I understand you well. We are all the same . "Younger" or "older". We all been where the other is or will be. The curse in life is that you feel the same in the inside even though you grow older
On the out. I can't speak for everyone but I realized this reality young, that's why I want to die young. I know what's in store for me if I stick around. I wish I was never born to. It's a burden now to try and figure how to get out of this before it happens to me and my twin sister. I wish I could sue my parents(now only mom) for this.
 
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I understand you well. We are all the same . "Younger" or "older". We all been where the other is or will be. The curse in life is that you feel the same in the inside even though you grow older
On the out. I can't speak for everyone but I realized this reality young, that's why I want to die young. I know what's in store for me if I stick around. I wish I was never born to. It's a burden now to try and figure how to get out of this before it happens to me and my twin sister. I wish I could sue my parents(now only mom) for this.
Someone actually sued their parents for this reason.
 
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Seriously? I give major props for trying!
You can search it on Google. An Indian man sued (tried to sue) their parents for giving birth to him. His name is Raphael Samuel.
 
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I know :meh: I never signed up for this life. Let me out.
 
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Mizzmini45

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You can search it on Google. An Indian man sued (tried to sue) their parents for giving birth to him. His name is Raphael Samuel.
Ohh snap!! It's real. I just read up on this guy!! I wish I could meet him
 
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Kvotheloner

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I dont get it either. Most of the people I meet feel like NPCs. With like zero desire to think about the big picture or big questions. Granted, I do know a lot of people that do too. But I dont get how the vast majority keep solace by avoiding those topics
 
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I dont get it either. Most of the people I meet feel like NPCs. With like zero desire to think about the big picture or big questions. Granted, I do know a lot of people that do too. But I dont get how the vast majority keep solace by avoiding those topics
The truth is always unpleasant. There's a reason people avoid it.
 
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The truth is always unpleasant. There's a reason people avoid it.

I get that part, but the truth is the truth. I cant live a "normal" life because I'm so focused on the truth. I guess im on the opposite end of the spectrum lol
 
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I get that part, but the truth is the truth. I cant live a "normal" life because I'm so focused on the truth. I guess km on the opposite end of the spectrum lol
Once you know the truth, you can't go back. So yeah it's hard trying to cope.
 
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TotallyIsolated

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I'm sick of people insisting that life is worth living. I'm glad that their lives are worth living, but mine is awful and I hate it. Theres nothing you can do to make them even acknowledge it though... they're happy so you *must* be. They wont even TRY to see things from another point of view.
 
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BabyYoda

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Those who view life as a blessing are privileged af.

Once you know the truth, you can't go back. So yeah it's hard trying to cope.
I agree
 
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I guess that's why they say ignorance is bliss. You'd have to be totally ignorant or blind to think this life is "a gift" or "a blessing". . . Or that it's short. That's another one you always hear, that life is short. Doesn't feel very short to me! Feels like I've been here FOREVER!
 
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Mizzmini45

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I'm sick of people insisting that life is worth living. I'm glad that their lives are worth living, but mine is awful and I hate it. Theres nothing you can do to make them even acknowledge it though... they're happy so you *must* be. They wont even TRY to see things from another point of view.
Maybe some are just lying to themselves because the truth hurts. I tried lying to myself at one point that life was worth living but it ran its course eventually.
 
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MysticPerception

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I guess that's why they say ignorance is bliss. You'd have to be totally ignorant or blind to think this life is "a gift" or "a blessing". . . Or that it's short. That's another one you always hear, that life is short. Doesn't feel very short to me! Feels like I've been here FOREVER!
Seriously, preach it. If I could speed up time mentally for myself to an extreme I would. Just jump straight to my deathbed. Life is far too long and dragged out for it to be even close to short.

As a response to the topic though life is not a gift nor is it a blessing. Not everyone has a purpose. Honestly that last bit pisses me off when you think about how many children who do want to live get brutally killed in some locations of the world. I wouldn't go as far as to say I wish I wasn't born. There are things I've learned and experiences I've had that I could only have if I was me right now in this life. I still wish I could just stop existing now though. I've had my fun, show's over time to close the curtain on my life please.
 
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Misanthrope

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Life is just indifferent causality at work. What qualifiers and meaning people add to that is unique to the individual. Sometimes that stance is then projected onto every one. For some life is a gift worth fighting for, for others it is not. The problem is when people beat you over the head with their view and invalidate your personal truth while doing so. Especially when it is a subjective truth.
 
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Seriously, preach it. If I could speed up time mentally for myself to an extreme I would. Just jump straight to my deathbed. Life is far too long and dragged out for it to be even close to short.

As a response to the topic though life is not a gift nor is it a blessing. Not everyone has a purpose. Honestly that last bit pisses me off when you think about how many children who do want to live get brutally killed in some locations of the world. I wouldn't go as far as to say I wish I wasn't born. There are things I've learned and experiences I've had that I could only have if I was me right now in this life. I still wish I could just stop existing now though. I've had my fun, show's over time to close the curtain on my life please.
Life doesn't have a purpose. People who say that have an optimism bias. They're lying to themselves.
 
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k75

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Someone actually sued their parents for this reason.
I remember that. The weirdest part is the parents were kind of amused. They said they were proud he was independent thinking enough to do it.
 
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I remember that. The weirdest part is the parents were kind of amused. They said they were proud he was independent thinking enough to do it.
I was wondering why would they be amused at the whole thing. Like they don't seem to understand the situation at hand.
 
k75

k75

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They're lawyers, too. I guess they were just that confident nothing would come of it.
 
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WhyIsLife56

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They're lawyers, too. I guess they were just that confident nothing would come of it.
Even when you're a lawyer, you can never be 100% certain of anything.
 
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k75

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Even when you're a lawyer, you can never be 100% certain of anything.
Another thing that struck me is they all said they actually had a great family relationship. Just so weird. Haha I read a few articles on it when it happened because it was so unusual to me.
 
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Another thing that struck me is they all said they actually had a great family relationship. Just so weird. Haha I read a few articles on it when it happened because it was so unusual to me.
Even when you have a great relationship with them, you can still regret that you were born. Notice that it says that he is an antinatalist. That would explain things
 
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Even when you have a great relationship with them, you can still regret that you were born. Notice that it says that he is an antinatalist. That would explain things
I just can't imagine having a great relationship with someone and suing them at the same time.
 

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