Three strangers met to catch the bus.

[L'absent]

What kind of container managed to kill all three girls? The girls did not know each other. They had met for the first time to do it together.

PATTI SUICIDI/ Il caso di tre ragazze tedesche che si sono uccise in una tenda in un bosco

Tre ragazze tedesche che si erano conosciute tramite Internet, si sono uccise inalando monossido di carbone chiuse dentro una tenda in un bosco. Altri casi analoghi

www.ilsussidiario.net

 

[Archness]

Could someone provide a run-down in English, this seems interesting.

 

[athiestjoe]

That story is from 2011 (not that the date matters) and they did grill CO2 method and in a tent that was well taped up. There isn't too much to it than that which is interesting about the article.

See this similar case involving 40 year olds in Germany who also went CO2 route together (article is in English and they reference that 2011 incident as being similar).

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I think I remember this case.

 

[kat6]

Could someone provide a run-down in English, this seems interesting.

My Italian is basic at best, so take it with a grain of salt. From what I could gather:

Police were alerted by the psychiatrist of a 19 year old girl and tracked her phone or tablet to a forest area. She was found in a tent along with two other girls ages 16 and 18. They burned charcoal inside the tent and died of carbon monoxide poisoning. They believed the girls were strangers who met online and made a suicide pact.

 

[L'absent]

My Italian is basic at best, so take it with a grain of salt. From what I could gather:

Police were alerted by the psychiatrist of a 19 year old girl and tracked her phone or tablet to a forest area. She was found in a tent along with two other girls ages 16 and 18. They burned charcoal inside the tent and died of carbon monoxide poisoning. They believed the girls were strangers who met online and made a suicide pact.

Exactly. But they didn't use coal but a small cylinder and it's not clear what.

 

[athiestjoe]

They used three grills and coals.

 

[L'absent]

They used three grills and coals.

The article talks about this type of stove. They say they let the gas escape inside the sealed tent. Apparently they didn't use charcoal. They also say that these group deaths among people who meet on the internet are very common and worrying. What was GPL?


Maybe they used the same method as this guy. Except he turned on the gas in the car and his father discovered him and saved him. It was always GPL gas.

Verona, chiuso in auto con bombola di gas per togliersi la vita: lo salva il padre che passa di lì per caso

Il ragazzo di 28 anni aveva organizzato già tutto e verso le 15 ha fermato l’auto nel parcheggio degli impianti sportivi, ha chiuso le portiere, si è spostato sul sedile posteriore e ha aperto la valvola

www.veronasera.it

This mother used the same gas to kill herself and her daughter inside her house. No particular preparation, just four simple camping cylinders. Their father found them dead upon returning.

Crema, madre suicida col gasassieme alla figlia di due anni

La tragedia in una palazzina nel centro della città. La donna aveva studiato tuttonei dettagli, utilizzando quattro bombole da campeggio che non hanno l…

milano.repubblica.it

What I don't understand is how is this possible?? These cylinders are very small and have little gas inside them.

 

[Archness]

The article talks about this type of stove. They say they let the gas escape inside the sealed tent. Apparently they didn't use charcoal. They also say that these group deaths among people who meet on the internet are very common and worrying. What was GPL?

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Maybe they used the same method as this guy. Except he turned on the gas in the car and his father discovered him and saved him. It was always GPL gas.

Verona, chiuso in auto con bombola di gas per togliersi la vita: lo salva il padre che passa di lì per caso

Il ragazzo di 28 anni aveva organizzato già tutto e verso le 15 ha fermato l’auto nel parcheggio degli impianti sportivi, ha chiuso le portiere, si è spostato sul sedile posteriore e ha aperto la valvola

www.veronasera.it

This mother used the same gas to kill herself and her daughter inside her house. No particular preparation, just four simple camping cylinders. Their father found them dead upon returning.

Crema, madre suicida col gasassieme alla figlia di due anni

La tragedia in una palazzina nel centro della città. La donna aveva studiato tuttonei dettagli, utilizzando quattro bombole da campeggio che non hanno l…

milano.repubblica.it

What I don't understand is how is this possible?? These cylinders are very small and have little gas inside them.

Even with a small amount of gas, it'd be possible to make yourself faint without the "suffocating" feel that triggers SI. Then once you're knocked out, you wouldn't need the gas anymore if you could otherwise prevent oxygen from reentering the bloodstream and restarting everything. Feasibly, they could even do this with just some aquarium tubing and bags (a PPHB video showed this).

In short : You don't need a lot of gas, just enough to initially knock you out and a way to prevent oxygen uptake. The reason gas is combined with lethal oxygen deprivation is because it's a "peaceful" CTB method that just like you're falling asleep, no SI is triggered. You technically need just enough to initially fall unconscious, then the oxygen deprivation will take care of the rest.

Most gas methods also use it to prevent oxygen uptake. It's believable they'd only need 4 of the things, especially because those things are pressurized, and would contain more gas then you'd expect at 1 atm. Combined with, say, a plastic bag and a rubber band for oxygen deprivation, it could be very effective. Gonna have to remember this one just in case.

I'll also add that most tents are not airtight, even if you seal up the apparent openings with tape, because most tents have their walls thin and allow air & gasses to pass through. Either they've used a very "heavy duty" camping tent, or they did something else the media/cops didn't share to prevent the spread of CTB info.