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This might be extremely stupid of me but do you think just trying a small (like a 'shallow' dab of the dust on my fingertip) of SN to get a sense of what it would be like would be a bad idea?

I don't want to go into the experience completely blind if that's what I end up choosing

Do you think it would be better to take a few otc painkillers and a few of my weak otc anti-emetic pills with it? Don't currently have otc antacids although I could easily get them
 
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Personally if I know something is going to taste bad, I'm going to have a much harder time putting it in there again. Everyone is different though.
 
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I would really not chance it, sometimes a small amount like 1g could complicate any existing physical health problems, maybe even kill you unless you've got medical equipment. I really don't know though so maybe see what others say
like what happens if you throw up everywhere and it's a flag to everyone around you
 
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Umm I say not a good idea
 
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I would really not chance it, sometimes a small amount like 1g could complicate any existing physical health problems, maybe even kill you unless you've got medical equipment. I really don't know though so maybe see what others say
like what happens if you throw up everywhere and it's a flag to everyone around you
I would try to do it in a place where I was alone
I would really not chance it, sometimes a small amount like 1g could complicate any existing physical health problems, maybe even kill you unless you've got medical equipment. I really don't know though so maybe see what others say
like what happens if you throw up everywhere and it's a flag to everyone around you
I don't have any physical health problems, really
Personally if I know something is going to taste bad, I'm going to have a much harder time putting it in there again. Everyone is different though.
You could be right, like touching a joy buzzer

Although by that same analogy sometimes building up to it again makes a joy buzzer hurt less
 
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Heart of Ice

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One gram of sodium nitrite can be deadly. Please don't.
 
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I would advise against it. There is a case of a dental nurse that died over a three hour period from a 1 gram pill..search online to see.
It can make you sick at very small amounts. Its risky I'd say.
 
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I understand why you might want to, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you do anyway, be prepared for the worst, because accidents happen and practice runs of anything can be fatal.
 
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I would not play with poison.
 
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calendulo

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Yes it is.
Guess It is really risky doing a test using a toxic which you not known doses, lethal doses, death process.....and more and more things, anyway you do not know how is going to act inside your body.

I would not do it.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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I guess the worst thing would be all of the pain but none of the death

A few grains maybe could work (as in what I hope would be way less than 1g) but that might not be worth it and in any case at that point it might not even be similar to 25g

I got really nervous after talking to Mystic Perception about it so now I'm curious what SN is like
 
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Why try it in the first place? It works (most of the time), don't play with it. If I had any I'd keep it away until I'm ready and only then
thats just me though
 
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Why try it in the first place? It works (most of the time), don't play with it. If I had any I'd keep it away until I'm ready and only then
thats just me though
Mystic Perception said the pain was pretty bad and her SI kicked in and she called the hospital (or someone)

I really don't want to do that
 
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Mystic Perception said the pain was pretty bad and her SI kicked in and she called the hospital (or someone)

I really don't want to do that
Have you taken it? How much? When?
 
Quarky00

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IT IS FATAL .

This has been discussed here several times .


It is a form a self-harm and "teasing death" that is highly discouraged .
 
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If you do play with fire. You might get burned.
 
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There are threads of folks ingesting SN to test, as others said here it is inadvisable. Testing with a large amount of salt can also be harmful if not deadly.

I too have sought to familiarize myself with the method and kept a journal. I link it here. Please note others' comments gave good advice that kept me from making harmful errors.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-good-and-effed-sn-preparation-and-practice-journal.31458/

Edit: I note that you edited the OP from 1g to a small dab. Up to you whether to take the risk. If you do, which I do not advise, be sure to flush with a lot of water to (hopefully) stop any negative effects.
 
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Why try it in the first place? It works (most of the time), don't play with it. If I had any I'd keep it away until I'm ready and only then
thats just me though
Mainly to test out how hard my SI would struggle

But I guess that's pretty much impossible
There are threads of folks ingesting SN to test, as others said here it is inadvisable. Testing with a large amount of salt can also be harmful if not deadly.

I too have sought to familiarize myself with the method and kept a journal. I link it here. Please note others' comments gave good advice that kept me from making harmful errors.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-good-and-effed-sn-preparation-and-practice-journal.31458/
There's also something to be said that none of that would be first-hand knowledge for me
 
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Mainly to test out how hard my SI would struggle

But I guess that's pretty much impossible

There's also something to be said that none of that would be first-hand knowledge for me

It wouldn't matter how hard your SI struggles in something you consider a test. It won't be the same conditions, so you won't get the same result.

This is not a method that takes learning. This is not a method that takes getting acclimated. This is a method that makes you dead.

Unless that is your goal, don't screw around with it.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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It wouldn't matter how hard your SI struggles in something you consider a test. It won't be the same conditions, so you won't get the same result.

This is not a method that takes learning. This is not a method that takes getting acclimated. This is a method that makes you dead.

Unless that is your goal, don't screw around with it.
A small part of me wonders if it it's all just a trick to wake up blue (and thus obviously having tried to kill myself), and get myself sent to a psych ward after suffering

If it's a legitimate, reliable means of suicide (which I would imagine is most likely the case), is like to know if it was actually fairly painless before I did it, because if it's painful it completely, 100% defeats the purpose of searching for and embracing a "peaceful pill" method
 
k75

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A small part of me wonders if it it's all just a trick to wake up blue (and thus obviously having tried to kill myself), and get myself sent to a psych ward after suffering

If it's a legitimate, reliable means of suicide (which I would imagine is most likely the case), is like to know if it was actually fairly painless before I did it, because if it's painful it completely, 100% defeats the purpose of searching for and embracing a "peaceful pill" method
One thing about the method is in order for it to be as peaceful as possible, all of the different medications you're recommended to take work together. It's a process rather than one specific thing. So the only way to really know what it's like is to try everything together the way you would when you're actually doing it, which means you're actually doing it. See the problem?
 
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One thing about the method is in order for it to be as peaceful as possible, all of the different medications you're recommended to take work together. It's a process rather than one specific thing. So the only way to really know what it's like is to try everything together the way you would when you're actually doing it, which means you're actually doing it. See the problem?
"Do you think it would be better to take a few otc painkillers and a few of my weak otc anti-emetic pills with it? Don't currently have otc antacids although I could easily get them"

I addressed that, but yeah it still comes down to "even if it wasn't dangerous the amount of SN would just be way off so you couldn't tell for sure"

This method is fairly confusing/dependent on a number of semi-unknown things, which I'm sure a few pro-life people could be laughing about, even though it enables a lot of misery to come into existence
 
Xaphous

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No need for 1g just to taste test, I put just a couple of grains on the tip of my tongue, its enough to see how bitter and salty it is.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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No need for 1g just to taste test, I put just a couple of grains on the tip of my tongue, its enough to see how bitter and salty it is.
Does it hurt your stomach?

And also, I keep reading that sodium nitrite "turns into sodium nitrate when exposed to air"--does screwing the cap back on prevent that?
 
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Xaphous

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Does it hurt your stomach?

And also, I keep reading that sodium nitrite "turns into sodium nitrate when exposed to air"--does screwing the cap back on prevent that?
What I meant was like 2 grains of sand worth is enough to get a taste of it, there is really no need to take a gram or so if you are just curious about the taste. It taste pretty awful but exactly like I expected.

As for it converting slowly to nitrate when exposed to air, I asked the same question myself and more knowledgeable members replied, its basically fine as long as you keep it sealed afterwards.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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What I meant was like 2 grains of sand worth is enough to get a taste of it, there is really no need to take a gram or so if you are just curious about the taste. It taste pretty awful but exactly like I expected.

As for it converting slowly to nitrate when exposed to air, I asked the same question myself and more knowledgeable members replied, its basically fine as long as you keep it sealed afterwards.
Thank you

Could you already feel burning in your stomach or is that pretty much impossible with two grains?
 
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This might be extremely stupid of me but do you think just trying a small (like a 'shallow' dab of the dust on my fingertip) of SN to get a sense of what it would be like would be a bad idea?

I don't want to go into the experience completely blind if that's what I end up choosing

Do you think it would be better to take a few otc painkillers and a few of my weak otc anti-emetic pills with it? Don't currently have otc antacids although I could easily get them

It appears that you have answered your own question. :wink:
 
Xaphous

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Thank you

Could you already feel burning in your stomach or is that pretty much impossible with two grains?
Highly unlikely, but I didn't swallow it I just rinsed my tongue afterwards. All in all no one is going to recommend you taste test a poison so be careful if you do.
 
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NotWhatIExpected

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Thank you

Could you already feel burning in your stomach or is that pretty much impossible with two grains?
My overall verdict with sodium nitrite is that it might work well enough overall but the level of anxiety around it make it an act of desperation and stealth to some degree (that might just be after my conversation with Mystic Perception, which unsettled me) and it's kind of not what I want with a peaceful pill

Nembutal suicide has been live-streamed and (aside from the initial pretty scary faces and sounds made just after swallowing, which in turn seem like they're alleviated pretty well with apple juice or chocolate) seems pretty pleasant overall, which really assuages my fears

Philip Nitschke has requested that sodium nitrite be live-streamed but that (on top of being a obviously pretty awful concept if it turns out to be a bad video) has not happened yet, so my fears cannot be assuaged
Highly unlikely, but I didn't swallow it I just rinsed my tongue afterwards. All in all no one is going to recommend you taste test a poison so be careful if you do.
Do you personally think the "drinking 25g of table salt in 50ml of water" does anything at all to simulate swallowing sodium nitrite?

I suppose there's really no way to tell unless someone tries the table salt solution, then tries the actual sodium nitrite solution but is revived after losing consciousness, and can compare the two sensations (would be a bad guinea pig experience I think probably--I might do it for Nembutal though, although I literally have almost no concept of how bad the pain would be and that could thus end up being one of the worst decisions I ever made)

Even then, it would be hard to even validate a lot of what I was saying

I've swallowed a lot of seawater before which can be very unpleasant but I don't think 50ml of salt water would necessarily compare as much (it might though, I'll probably try it tonight or sometime)
 
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