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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
they conned my elderly parents into selling our home, they took half our money. they lied they would build us a house on their new plot of land they wanted to buy.

they took like 70000 usd from the house sale.

They didnt even do anything that they said they would , they wouldnt even take our calls.

legal aid said they can take up this to court but my parents said no .

mom has stroke and heart issues, dad very pressure, courst case will kill one of them i think and they feel ashamed.

if my sister was alive she wouldnt let this happen, she protected my paretns alot and told them dont trust your sisters, they are conniving.

now my parents live in an old persons home and i stay in a bad apartment .

They built a nice house with the money.

my thoughts are to write out notes and send it to all family and freinds to shame them for what they did, i want their kids to grow up to know what they did.

I will go and set myself on fire in front of their house with pics of our old house in my hand shouting the address of our old home.

i want them to feel bad and suffer for what they did, i want them to see me burning to death and il tell them they took my life and my body just like our home.
im alrady suicidal anymore and it will hurt them and make them regret displacing us from our home. kill 2 bird with 1 stone,

sorry if this seems extreme but im tramatized and my mind is finsihed after what they did.
 
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g0921

g0921

Member
Jan 18, 2020
78
Not extreme at all, I will call it justice.

Sorry for this happen to you and your family.
 
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October112021

Student
Oct 8, 2022
141
I am fine with revenge suicides, but self-immolation is not the way to do it.
 
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Darkover

Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,649
setting your self on fire won't solve anything but make your situation alot worse especially if your saved with Third-degree burns
 
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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
I am fine with revenge suicides, but self-immolation is not the way to do it.
Yes but many people did it for protest purposes , monks and environment campaigners seemed to did it so easy .

this is the ultimate form of protest for what they did to me and my parents.

And they still denying any wrong doing, this will shake them up and make them feel bad and think and i get to die so best of both worlds.
setting your self on fire won't solve anything but make your situation alot worse especially if your saved with Third-degree burns
Yes but many people did it for protest purposes , monks and environment campaigners seemed to did it so easy .

this is the ultimate form of protest.

I will add alot of flammable liquid and make sure im covered and not saved.
 
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October112021

Student
Oct 8, 2022
141
My father did it and it was agonizing. He lived for four days after. Do not do this.

Hanging, fine. SN? Sure. This? No dude.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
My father did it and it was agonizing. He lived for four days after. Do not do this.

Hanging, fine. SN? Sure. This? No dude.
im sorry about your father. why did he do it?

I want this because i want them to see what they caused , i want them to see me suffer and hear the pain.

I want them to see what their actions lead to and feel regret.
 
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October112021

Student
Oct 8, 2022
141
im sorry about your father. why did he do it?

I want this because i want them to see what they caused , i want them to see me suffer and hear the pain.

I want them to see what their actions lead to and feel regret.

He had psychological issues.

You can do all that without setting yourself on fire, man. I am 1000% pro-choice. But self-immolation is painful beyond compare. If you wanna kill yourself to make a point, feel free to. But this would be a bad way to go about it.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
You can do all that without setting yourself on fire, man. I am 1000% pro-choice.
thanks , i just dont know any other methods that would kill me surely and make them feel bad .

also sorry for your fathers issues i have the same and empathize with him .
 
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October112021

Student
Oct 8, 2022
141
thanks , i just dont know any other methods that would kill me surely and make them feel bad .

All the usuals - fentanyl, Sodium Nitrite, partial hanfing. Any of these are better than self-immolation.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
All the usuals - fentanyl, Sodium Nitrite, partial hanfing. Any of these are better than self-immolation.
i dont know how to obtain those and i dont know how expensive they are and how to mix them right.

i cant tie a basic knot and im useless with my hands,

im basically an useless person who cant even do simple things.
 
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CandyCane

CandyCane

Student
Mar 11, 2022
156
I don't think they'd really suffer from this if they don't care about you or are sociopaths.
 
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Ethereal Knight

Ethereal Knight

Seja um bom soldado, morra onde você caiu.
Jan 10, 2022
816
bad idea. bad method. you're not Quảng Đức. you're more likely to get hurt and ruin your life forever than succeeding.

this will shake them up and make them feel bad
no, you don't make sociopaths or malignant narcissists feel bad. your suicide could actually be even more narcissistic supply for them!

trust me, my father has narcissistic personality disorder, I had first-hand experience with this.

that's definitely not the way to battle against empathy-deficient people.

instead, just cut all contact with them and with all their "flying monkeys" (proxy recruitment, the flying monkeys name has been taken from a scene of The Wizard of Oz), be positive, focus on good things, focus on what you can control, work hard and you'll regain all that money and even more.

apparently, based on what you said OP, your aunts are like crap – and the more you deal with crap, the dirtier your hand gets. just leave it and go wash your freaking hand.
 
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GrumpyFrog

GrumpyFrog

Exhausted
Aug 23, 2020
1,913
I want this because i want them to see what they caused , i want them to see me suffer and hear the pain.
I get that you are very angry and hurt. I am very sorry and I don't want to make you hurt even further and make you feel even more helpless. But I've got to be honest with you on this one.
Your extended family are already aware of the fact they caused pain, because of what happened to your parents. If they don't accept responsibility for that, they are not going to accept responsibility for your pain and death either. It would be even easier for them to write it off as something that has nothing to do with them by saying "eh, that's just mental illness". Especially if you will be dead and unable to further explain your reasoning.
Your parents, however, if they are still alive and are decent people that care about you, will be the ones who will be absolutely shocked and devastated by your gruesome death. Your pain will hit them much, much harder than your extended family.
People hurt each other in awful ways and can be shockingly callous. I understand how it can break your heart into a million pieces. I'm sorry this happened to you and your parents. It looks like you care about your mom and dad a great deal, which is why you are so angry now. And I understand that getting those money and buying your mom and dad a nice house might not be a possibility for you. But if you stick around there are many things you can do to make the lives of your mom and dad better and it will be so much more useful than "avenging" their house in such an awful way. If you have a good relationship with your parents, even just visiting them and talking to them will make their lives less miserable, even if you can't help them financially. If they love you, I'm sure they appreciate you so much more than they appreciated that house.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
I don't think they'd really suffer from this if they don't care about you or are sociopaths.
at least people will know what they did when i expose them in my suicide note that i send to all family and friends.
work hard and you'll regain all that money and even more.
well really my one dream is to learn programming and get a developer job or learn cyber security and get a job then buy my parents and i a house again.

but it seems hard and long to do and i never really did math and only have average intelligience at best .

But if i hard to give something a go to have my dream of buying the 3 of us a house again id try those IT fields.
 
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almaranthine

Wizard
Nov 28, 2019
615
this is really fucked up for me to write, but I'm just going to go ahead and say it because if you're this committed to it, I would want you to go about it in a way that you would be successful... why don't you just get a shotgun and blow your brains out on their doorstep? This way, the people who made your parents suffer will have to see it and deal with it directly, while the kids will be shielded from actually having to see the act being committed. If I saw a family member burning themselves alive outside of my house as a child through the window, yeah, that would fuck me up. These are just my thoughts though. I'm sorry you are going through so much.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
I get that you are very angry and hurt. I am very sorry and I don't want to make you hurt even further and make you feel even more helpless. But I've got to be honest with you on this one.
Your extended family are already aware of the fact they caused pain, because of what happened to your parents. If they don't accept responsibility for that, they are not going to accept responsibility for your pain and death either. It would be even easier for them to write it off as something that has nothing to do with them by saying "eh, that's just mental illness". Especially if you will be dead and unable to further explain your reasoning.
Your parents, however, if they are still alive and are decent people that care about you, will be the ones who will be absolutely shocked and devastated by your gruesome death. Your pain will hit them much, much harder than your extended family.
People hurt each other in awful ways and can be shockingly callous. I understand how it can break your heart into a million pieces. I'm sorry this happened to you and your parents. It looks like you care about your mom and dad a great deal, which is why you are so angry now. And I understand that getting those money and buying your mom and dad a nice house might not be a possibility for you. But if you stick around there are many things you can do to make the lives of your mom and dad better and it will be so much more useful than "avenging" their house in such an awful way. If you have a good relationship with your parents, even just visiting them and talking to them will make their lives less miserable, even if you can't help them financially. If they love you, I'm sure they appreciate you so much more than they appreciated that house.
thank you for your kinds words you are always kind and caring.

you do make some good points.

i was thinking maybe if i send my suicide note to all family and friends and expose them as the reason they could feel shame at least even if they deny it people will know and the word would get out what they did.
this is really fucked up for me to write, but I'm just going to go ahead and say it because if you're this committed to it, I would want you to go about it in a way that you would be successful... why don't you just get a shotgun and blow your brains out on their doorstep? This way, the people who made your parents suffer will have to see it and deal with it directly, while the kids will be shielded from actually having to see the act being committed. If I saw a family member burning themselves alive outside of my house as a child through the window, yeah, that would fuck me up. These are just my thoughts though. I'm sorry you are going through so much.
thats a good idea too actually, id have to obtain money and a gun license though.
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
3,558
thanks , i just dont know any other methods that would kill me surely and make them feel bad .

also sorry for your fathers issues i have the same and empathize with him .
If they did this to your parents then they won't care how any of you ctb. There is probably some legitimate way to get revenge.
 
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lifeisadream

One of life’s failures
Oct 3, 2022
172
OP you're certainly not a useless person, please don't think you are. The fact that you & your parents have gone through a very traumatic experience & you're fighting to do something shows you're not useless. Please don't set yourself on fire though because that will only cause you more pain. It seems from your posts that the people who've created this situation & lied are not the type of people who would care if you set fire to yourself. They clearly have no morals, standards or compassion & can't see their behaviour was wrong & damaging. Like others have said, there are different methods to use if you're wanting to ctb. Please reconsider doing it by fire. I don't want you to suffer & experience more pain. Sending you ❤️
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
46,704
That sounds like an awful situation to be in, some people really can be so cruel and it's just so unfair how those people created so much harm and suffering. Self immolation does sound like the worst way to ctb from what I've read, but I wish you freedom.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
14,370
I'm so sorry you and your parents have gone through this. As a race, it's saddening how we treat one another but when it's between family members, it's utterly mind boggling and horrifying.

I can absolutely understand why you want to shame them for what they have done. However, I do agree with what people here have said- if they are callous enough to do what they have done already, they are likely to not care to the extent you want them to in response to your actions.

As others have said, I'm sure they will just chalk it down to mental instability/ illness. Also- bear in mind that they may not even bother to read any email you send to them- I'm assuming you are intending to send out multiple delayed emails explaining your actions? It may turn other family members against them but as another poster has mentioned- if these people are their 'flying monkeys'- people that narcissists get to be on 'their side'- it might not work either. I simply don't think these people 'function' the same as 'normal' people- I'm not so sure they ever feel guilty because they never think they are in the wrong.

I wonder if it is possible to drag them through the courts- if there's any lawyer that would take the pressure off of you as much as possible but see that some kind of justice is done. I don't know how common 'no win, no fee' type contracts are with this sort of thing. I know that must sound utterly exhausting when you are in such a bad place but I honestly think the only place you can hurt these kinds of people is the wallet- money. Perhaps reputation too- if they even care about that sort of thing. I really wish you luck in whatever you decide to do and I hope you and your parents get the justice you all deserve.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

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Sep 28, 2022
707
OP you're certainly not a useless person, please don't think you are. The fact that you & your parents have gone through a very traumatic experience & you're fighting to do something shows you're not useless. Please don't set yourself on fire though because that will only cause you more pain. It seems from your posts that the people who've created this situation & lied are not the type of people who would care if you set fire to yourself. They clearly have no morals, standards or compassion & can't see their behaviour was wrong & damaging. Like others have said, there are different methods to use if you're wanting to ctb. Please reconsider doing it by fire. I don't want you to suffer & experience more pain. Sending you ❤️
thank you for your kind words.
That sounds like an awful situation to be in, some people really can be so cruel and it's just so unfair how those people created so much harm and suffering. Self immolation does sound like the worst way to ctb from what I've read, but I wish you freedom.
yes the replies are making me reconsider it.
wonder if it is possible to drag them through the courts- if there's any lawyer that would take the pressure off of you as much as possible but see that some kind of justice is done.
parents are old and sickly and dont want me to .
If they did this to your parents then they won't care how any of you ctb. There is probably some legitimate way to get revenge.
i only could think of courts but parents dont want me to.
 
CandyCane

CandyCane

Student
Mar 11, 2022
156
at least people will know what they did when i expose them in my suicide note that i send to all family and friends.

well really my one dream is to learn programming and get a developer job or learn cyber security and get a job then buy my parents and i a house again.

but it seems hard and long to do and i never really did math and only have average intelligience at best .

But if i hard to give something a go to have my dream of buying the 3 of us a house again id try those IT fields.
I disagree. People don't really care that much about anything outside themselves unless it's a trending topic they can get attention or themselves over. People will just think you're a nut and their actions/wrongs are justified because of it. It won't inspire much beyond contempt for you.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
I disagree. People don't really care that much about anything outside themselves unless it's a trending topic they can get attention or themselves over. People will just think you're a nut and their actions/wrongs are justified because of it. It won't inspire much beyond contempt for you.
valid point but my parents can even back up what im saying.
 
CandyCane

CandyCane

Student
Mar 11, 2022
156
valid point but my parents can even back up what im saying.
Why don't you make a social media post, or youTube or something using their names exposing them and see how many people care? Remember to skip the majority of facts and either entertain the audience or be so unhinged it goes viral from people shocked at your behavior.
 
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makethepainstop

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Sep 16, 2022
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they conned my elderly parents into selling our home, they took half our money. they lied they would build us a house on their new plot of land they wanted to buy.

they took like 70000 usd from the house sale.

They didnt even do anything that they said they would , they wouldnt even take our calls.

legal aid said they can take up this to court but my parents said no .

mom has stroke and heart issues, dad very pressure, courst case will kill one of them i think and they feel ashamed.

if my sister was alive she wouldnt let this happen, she protected my paretns alot and told them dont trust your sisters, they are conniving.

now my parents live in an old persons home and i stay in a bad apartment .

They built a nice house with the money.

my thoughts are to write out notes and send it to all family and freinds to shame them for what they did, i want their kids to grow up to know what they did.

I will go and set myself on fire in front of their house with pics of our old house in my hand shouting the address of our old home.

i want them to feel bad and suffer for what they did, i want them to see me burning to death and il tell them they took my life and my body just like our home.
im alrady suicidal anymore and it will hurt them and make them regret displacing us from our home. kill 2 bird with 1 stone,

sorry if this seems extreme but im tramatized and my mind is finsihed after what they did.
Those kind of people do not feel guilt or shame. I doubt your dying would make them feel any regret. Wish I had some creative way to help.
 
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ImmaMacGuffin

Member
Jul 9, 2019
18
As above fonts have posted, the abusive party didn't think twice about stealing from you and your parents which resulted in displacement, they aren't going to feel guilt about your planned self-immolation.

Best I can offer, (I am assuming you are US citizen) is a verbal agreement is binding. The hard part is proving it happened. Were you there when your parents and these relatives made this agreement? If so, you are a witness to the verbal contract. There's also the paper trail of the 70k. Legal aid would argue this was compensation as part of the verbal agreement. People, ordinarily, don't *gift* that kind of money, especially when it's the only nest egg a party would have, and considering they're elderly, it may have been the only revenue they made that year.

Even though your parent's don't want a court case, I don't see how you can remedy the situation otherwise. These relatives, as mentioned many times above, wouldn't care and would just rack it up to mental issues.
 
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September Salt

Member
Jul 23, 2022
77
You'll suffer excruciating pain and your shameless relatives won't care. Please don't do it.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

Warlock
Sep 28, 2022
707
Why don't you make a social media post, or youTube or something using their names exposing them and see how many people care? Remember to skip the majority of facts and either entertain the audience or be so unhinged it goes viral from people shocked at your behavior.
this is an excellent idea but it would be removed, those controversial suicide/ family defaming videos dont stay up for long and im sure my aunty would report it.
The hard part is proving it happened.
Yes this is the problem.

I was there and i heard everything my aunt said to my dad.

all the promises she made.

problem is they somehow made my dad put the house in her name first before selling it?

so idk.

then i also told legal aid that i am willing to go for polygraph tests and even i wont lie and commit perjurt in a court of law.

im not afraid because im 100% speaking the truth.
 
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