Think I'm done with meds now

[84779943]

SSRI's numbed me to the point of incapacity. Cymbalta helped a little but the side effects were the worst. Ritalin had too much of a crash. I would rather just deal with the chronic exhaustion of ADHD than have the torment of a few hours a day of feeling semi competent only to crash hard and be left with such self loathing and feelings of failure.

For now I'm just going to coast on benzos so at least I'm not in constant panic mode from PTSD.

Meds without therapy and community support is a scam and disables me more so that I can't do anything to improve my situation. I don't think the quacks have invented one that gives you the will to live yet. I just want to be unconscious

 

[batcountry]

I completely agree with you that medication without therapy or community support is a scam. You can't just treat the symptoms without addressing the underlying causes which is what therapy is supposed to do, and living in isolation is a hell I wouldn't wish on anyone. With that being said, since you were able to see a psychiatrist, are you able to see a therapist?

As far as the medications go, have you ever tried strattera for your ADHD? It's a nonstimulant used to treat ADHD, I've been on it for a few years now and it didn't give me the weird side effects that come with other ADHD meds.

 

[Smart No More]

I completely agree with you that medication without therapy or community support is a scam. You can't just treat the symptoms without addressing the underlying causes which is what therapy is supposed to do, and living in isolation is a hell I wouldn't wish on anyone. With that being said, since you were able to see a psychiatrist, are you able to see a therapist?

As far as the medications go, have you ever tried strattera for your ADHD? It's a nonstimulant used to treat ADHD, I've been on it for a few years now and it didn't give me the weird side effects that come with other ADHD meds.

It really pisses me off that that they're so quick to treat symptoms (rather than the cause) with psych meds but if you're an addict they tell you the complete opposite, that you should address the underlying issues rather than self medicate. Truth is it's just a system that seeks to switch your drug dealer to their sponsors. I don't think a lot of them know they're doing it because we were raised to respect doctors as a kind of authority and its kind of ingrained in us but while we've been growing up people have been entering the world of medicine purely for the money and are no longer the respectable doctors who' s discernment we once bowed to. Now they're just (often unwittingly trusting) pawns of pharmaceutical companies and corporate interests. Public perception hasn't quite caught up to that and is lagging quite detrimentally. Pisses me right off. I go into the docs expecting a little mutual respect for attempting to confront the root of my health issues but they respond with discrediting platitudes and push meds. Like I say, if I went in asking for opiates they'd tell me to address the root of my problem and stop treating the symptoms. Of course, if they could get away with it they'd give all the opiates requested as we all know has been an issue up until very recently. This is one area that the public perception has recently caught up on.

So yeah, unless you're lucky to find one that suits you, fuck meds. Particularly if your issues aren't even of a psychological nature.

 

[batcountry]

It really pisses me off that that they're so quick to treat symptoms (rather than the cause) with psych meds but if you're an addict they tell you the complete opposite, that you should address the underlying issues rather than self medicate. Truth is it's just system that seeks to switch your drug dealer to their sponsors. I don't think a lot of them know they're doing it because we were raised to respect doctors as a kind of authority and its kind of ingrained in us but while we've been growing up people have been entering the world of medicine purely for the money and are no longer the respectable doctors who' s discernment we once bowed to. Now they're just pawns of pharmaceutical companies and corporate interests. Public perception hasn't quite caught up to that and is lagging quite detrimentally. Pisses me right off. I go into the docs expecting a little mutual respect for attempting to confront the root of my health issues but they respond with discrediting platitudes and push meds. Like I say, if I went in asking for opiates they'd tell me to address the root of my problem and stop treating the symptoms. Of course, if they could get away with it they'd give allnthe opiates requested as we all know has been an issue up until very recently. This is one area that the public perception has recently caught up on.

So yeah, unless you're lucky to find one that suits you, fuck meds. Particularly if your issues aren't even of a psychological nature.

Yeah, the corruption in the psychiatry side of things is truly sickening. There's so much research out there that found better results for actual therapy in comparison to just taking some medications... It gets taught in undergraduate level clinical psychology classes that therapy is more effective, and yet, people are so quick to send anyone with problems to a psychiatrist without a therapist, which is just downright unethical. And I'm saying this as someone who really wouldn't be able to function without my medications. I am desperately hoping that they'll eventually start making it more difficult for people who aren't suited for the job to work with vulnerable people who are already so close to the edge. I am truly sorry you had these experiences, I genuinely do not understand how we live in a world where people can lose their jobs over the dumbest shit and yet this kind of thing is common practice in psych.

That's truly the worst part... The issues are so interdisciplinary and people either refuse to acknowledge that and instead just insist it's a personal problem, or they are aware that the issues are more structural but are powerless to actually do anything to change it given how large of a scale they're on. It's really hard to hold onto hope that things will change, but there are some people out there who actually care and aren't just in it for the money. It's just truly horrible that they are overshadowed by people who went into psych for monetary gain.

 

[SuicideBoys93]

I've been free meds for a few months now. It's actually quite funny, I followed up with my dr to get them renewed and after filling the prescription I thought about how I don't like how they make me feel lightheaded throughout my day so I said fuck it and quit taking them. The withdrawals were somewhat ehhh but they came and passed. The only thing I really noticed was a little irritability, headaches, and was having some pretty vivid nightmares nightly. All were associated with withdrawal when I started to do some digging about possible withdrawal sides.

 

[84779943]

I'm going through dreadful withdrawals now. Every time I move my eyes I get jolts in my brain. Horrendous tinnitus. Like a klaxon in my left ear. Dizzy. Can't move. Dark dark thoughts.

 

[Smart No More]

Perhaps you should take some meds and taper off too avoid the worst of the withdrawal symptoms.

 

[84779943]

Perhaps you should take some meds and taper off too avoid the worst of the withdrawal symptoms.

I was already on the lowest dose of the duloxetine. Psychiatrist has prescribed Vortioxetine now. Don't see the point in trying yet another medication.

 

[Smart No More]

Do you have any other meds you could temporarily use to ease the withdrawal symptoms. People seem to describe a lot of anxiety and sleeplessness when withrawing from antidepressants and psych meds. Also you can use a pill cutter to cut your psyche meds into lower doses. If they're in capsules you could empty to contents out and split them into smaller doses and pour into more capsules too. The capsules are available online but if you have other meds that you're not using you can repurpose the casing/capsules of those. Just be sure to wmpty the contents fully and dispose of it safely. Proton pump inhibitors are a safe option for reusing capsules from. I think it's probably worth looking into whether lower than lowest dose meds can cause adverse effects but think its logical to assume they should be okay. Please shout up if anyone reading this knows otherwise.