Despondent

Despondent

Archangel
Dec 20, 2019
6,777
I'm a little belated to seeing your thread.

It's okay to not connect with one therapist :hug: It takes time finding the one. For the first few sessions, I'd say get to know them. You don't have to open up right away. Talk about your interests, what you did on the weekend, anything.

I think you'll know that you've found the one when you can easily connect with them. It's not hard to open up to them, and you feel comfortable throughout the conversation. The right one will make you feel like you're worth it. Don't forget the trust, too! :heart:
 
Gnip

Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
Credentials are no substitute for talent. You'll know instantly whether or not they are on your wavelength.

My wiring is Visual (AD/HD)-Kinesthetic-Auditory. Unfortunately, academic success requires auditory neurological wiring. Therefore, the very fact of any therapist having a degree is an automatic disqualifier for effectiveness in providing me any talk therapy, as degrees have no potential for rapport with me. (If you're 100% auditory, you can easily become a Rhodes Scholar with an IQ of 95. But if you're 100% visual or 100% kinesthetic (dyslexic), then an IQ of 200 will not be enough to save you from being labeled with Down's Syndrome children.)

If you had any measure of academic success, then there might be some therapeutic potential for you to be offered by a degree.

No question in my experience that most females are vastly superior listeners to most males.

Personally, I confine myself to psychopharmacy with compliant prescribers, as medications are the only thing that have ever helped me. I fully understand that pills are not skills, but while I would be more than eager to try an intensive course of biofeedback therapy, there has never been a single Association for Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback (AAPB) or Biofeedback Certification International Alliance (BCIA) credentialed practitioner within 50 miles of my area who is an insurance provider for my coverage going back to 1969. (If a treatment is effective, like Single Session Therapy or biofeedback, then there is no money in it for them. These people are parasites who extract their living by preventing their victims from getting better, and often by making them worse. My former psychiatrist made tens of thousands off my coverage over a span of 18 years before retiring to live high off the hog, not giving a shit about the dependent clientele she left in the lurch. My current psychiatrist however is a septuagenarian professor emeritus who makes a salary from his current agency, a fine gentleman who stopped accepting new patients shortly after taking me on in 2014. Sleep medication management and maintenance every six months is the focus of our association.)


Aside from biofeedback, clinical hypnosis might be a worthwhile modality to pursue, assuming you are fortunate enough to locate a competent practitioner. Again, a degree is no substitute for competence and talent. (Incidentally, my psychiatrist agrees with me that Dave Elman, somebody with an eighth grade education who died in 1967, is history's greatest hypnotist. Ironically, Elman only taught clinical hypnoanesthesia and other methods he developed and perfected to physicians and dentists. The Amazing Kreskin, the noted mentalist entertainer, is second on my psychiatrist's list of the greatest ever in this field, while Milton Erickson just cracks his top five, the only degree, let alone medical doctor who rates that highly.)
 
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greebo6

Enlightened
Sep 11, 2020
1,611
I have already tried therapy 4 times each of them being an absolute failure. I'm thinking of maybe trying again this time with a male therapist. Any idea of what I should look for in a therapist?
You need a 'Frasier' or a 'Niles'.
I loved that show ('Frasier')…..
 
Gnip

Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
In my experience, therapists are totally useless. They're a paid listener at best, and a suicide cop at worst. They're not allowed or don't want to give advice, allegedly for your own good. Most often, they're shifty and dishonest about it; they dangle a solution in front of you just out of your reach, to get you to keep coming back. And when they notice you acting and feeling happier, they hit you with an emotional sucker punch in the stomach, to make you sad again, so you return to fix that new sadness. Lather, rinse, repeat.

In my experience, therapists (worthless bloodsucking parasites who spend their college years fucking, drinking and doing drugs) aren't remotely as good as you suggest.

My best recommendation is to get yourself antidepressants. Psychiatrists can prescribe almost anything you want, but your garden-variety nurse practitioner can prescribe most pills that aren't Schedule 2. Visiting them costs a lot less than visiting an MD, too. Also, get yourself some good psychology books, either in the few bookstores left around or on A; look for "MD", "PhD", or "PsyD" in the author's name. Read them, filter out trash from treasure, and apply the "treasure" part to your life.

Drugs can be outstanding, but often they stop working. I need a psychiatrist to prescribe me the zolpidem, eszopiclone, temazepam, clonazepam and alprazolam I require for being able to sleep and quell anxiety attacks. Non psychiatrists can be pretty restricted when it comes to prescribing the sort of medications a member of this site is liable to require for relief.

Nor am I a great fan of advanced degrees. (To me, "doctor" is all too often an abbreviation for "indoctrinated," a perspective my psychiatrist does not take exception to, BTW.) The three best psychology books Nathaniel Branden ever wrote were all published before he obtained his doctorate in 1973. (1969's The Psychology of Self Esteem, 1970's Breaking Free and 1971's The Disowned Self were all a clear level above his output from 1980 to 2000, and in his personal life, he walked the talk he described in those first three books.)

For "I NEED HELP YESTERDAY!" type self help literature, Gary Emery's "Rapid Relief from Emotional Distress" has been a potent tonic for everybody I've ever given it to (even though Emery himself abandoned CBT and RCBT in favor of the lucrative and spurious alphabet soup telephone power "therapies." (So far as EFT goes, Gary Craig was within driving distance of me. I contacted him through the mail, and he instantly chickened out, immediately writing back to tell me he wasn't seeing patients. I therefore call bullshit in EFT. Gary Craig is a fraud, and it's just a matter of time before he either gets thrown in jail or has to pay a massive fine for fraud like Roger Callahan did to the Feds.)
 
kappa

kappa

Experienced
Apr 2, 2019
233
What exactly is therapy? Like what do they say that a normal person can't? I used that fancy degree must've come with some tricks, right?
I think it's kind of what you can say to them as well. I can't tell a regular person that I sometimes have the urge to run over people...
 
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Aimed

Member
Oct 21, 2020
6
Whether they can be ok enough for long enough for you while developing more and more understanding - not just as in sympathy but enough actual accuracy about the problems and developing interventions. A mythical beast in some cases.
 
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RottenDeer

RottenDeer

Rotten to the core.
Feb 29, 2020
157
I always looked for understanding and not trying to force their beliefs onto me.
 
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MyStateKilledMe

Arcanist
Apr 23, 2020
463
In my experience, therapists (worthless bloodsucking parasites who spend their college years fucking, drinking and doing drugs) aren't remotely as good as you suggest.
The problem with therapy is that it's a very easy field. That is, hard to get into, but easy once you're there. Think about it: therapists don't really DO anything. They don't give advice. They don't stand up for you to people mistreating you (like parents or teachers). They don't make bad feelings go away. They just repeat back what you just told them (a.k.a. "reflecting"), make empathetic noises, and ask you dumb rhetorical questions (like "how did being yelled at make you feel?"). Oftentimes, they keep pushing your buttons and retraumazing you, and say it's for your own good. And when results don't happen, they blame you, the patient. And they probably snicker at you with their therapist friends. That's not psychology; that's psychopathy! A total moron can do what therapists do, and earn $100+ an hour while at it.

Because of that, people who are not smart enough to get into STEM fields, not shrewd enough to get into finance or law, and not rich enough to get into politics, all want to become psychotherapists. That's where they can make big bucks, all without actually helping patients or doing anything productive from an honest worker's point of view.
 
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AJ95

24/7 sylvia plath
Sep 3, 2020
478
I've seen probably half a dozen or more different therapists, psychologists, and psychiatrists.

I always look for:
  1. Empathy and kindness
  2. Understanding of what I'm going through
  3. Non-judgemental attitude
  4. Experience with problems like mine or people with similar issues
  5. Rapport / friendliness towards me
Those are probably the biggest five for me
 
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LonelyDude15

Currently Spiraling
Sep 26, 2020
277
Well after going through a 3 consultations I found one that I really like, they seem kind of awkward as well and was talking about the potential of ACT. The other one I spoke too seemed like they may be more effective they, they seemed like they wanted to get to the root of my necrosises and find effective solutions to them, so I guess it's time to make a Pros and Cons list
 

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