There were 47,000 suicides last year in the US.

[MisterSadness]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1661312002

 

[Paulsmith]

In 2017, a total of 5,821 suicides were registered in the UK.

This is us

 

[ChemicallyCalm]

But in all seriousness, I hope it was painless for all and that everyone found peace

 

[MisterSadness]

In 2017, a total of 5,821 suicides were registered in the UK.

This is us

That is a much lower rate than here in the US.
Because the US population is 5 times bigger than in the UK , but suicides are 7.5 times more.

 

[Paulsmith]

Yeah of course

 

[MisterSadness]

Yeah of course

I attribute that to the much greater availability of firearms here in the US.

 

[Paulsmith]

I attribute that to the much greater availability of firearms here in the US.

Yeah it's all but impossible here. Strict gun laws

 

[MisterSadness]

Yeah it's all but impossible here. Strict gun laws

You remind me.
I once saw a hilarious video of the police in the UK.
They were running away from the criminals, because they didn't have any guns.
Here every cop has a gun and he is not afraid to use it.

 

[Thoughtforms]

In 2017, a total of 5,821 suicides were registered in the UK.

This is us

out of 66m people

 

[Paulsmith]

You remind me.
I once saw a hilarious video of the police in the UK.
They were running away from the criminals, because they didn't have any guns.
Here every cop has a gun and he is not afraid to use it.

Well it's about time we shoish have it now as places like London are so rife with violent crime

 

[Paulsmith]

out of 66m people

Probably doesn't count everyone.

 

[Thoughtforms]

Could also be better mental health care, less poverty

 

[MisterSadness]

Could also be better mental health care, less poverty

Maybe across the pond you have better mental health.
But I am not sure about less poverty.
The US is richer than the UK.
Our GDP per capita is much higher.

 

[Paulsmith]

No. It's the other way round. It's less mental health services and more poverty

 

[mattwitt]

There are also about 1 million attempted suicides in the usa per year.

 

[Fcancer]

There are also about 1 million attempted suicides in the usa per year.

Thats not a very good strike rate then

 

[Fcancer]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that worldwide there is about 1 million suicides a year.

 

[Final Escape]

I'm not surprised at all, it's by design. Though some of these suicides are probably not all related to globalism, cultural and family breakdown, poverty, debt, illness.

 

[Smilla]

Two Princeton economists theorized that the rate is so high (focusing on middle aged white men) because of late stage capitalism.

I'm in that middle aged cohort except I am female.

Alone, alcoholic, poor, failed career is an incredibly potent concoction for a successful suicide.

 

[mattwitt]

Look at all the drug overdose deaths per year in the usa I wonder how many of those were actually unreported suicides ?

https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

 

[mattwitt]

Two Princeton economists theorized that the rate is so high (focusing on middle aged white men) because of late stage capitalism.

I'm in that middle aged cohort except I am female.

Alone, alcoholic, poor, failed career is an incredibly potent concoction for a successful suicide.

I'm 42 and in that boat. No wife, no kids, no dogs, no house of my own, no money, no job, and no point in going on.

 

[Smilla]

I'm 42 and in that boat. No wife, no kids, no dogs, no house of my own, no money, no job, and no point in going on.

I'm 39. Let's get married and be miserable together? Lmao

Sincerely sorry for our positions. I feel for both of us.

 

[Sinbad]

I'm 39. Let's get married and be miserable together? Lmao

Sincerely sorry for our positions. I feel for both of us.

Hahaha Mattwitt and Smilla? I ship it.

 

[Final Escape]

Two Princeton economists theorized that the rate is so high (focusing on middle aged white men) because of late stage capitalism.

I'm in that middle aged cohort except I am female.

Alone, alcoholic, poor, failed career is an incredibly potent concoction for a successful suicide.

Only part that is wrong is that this is late stage socialism. But we are taught free market capitalism is what hurts people. Free market and no state intervention is the most moral system because it aligns with human nature. Governments always grow and take personal responsibility away from people, which is why it fails. I made terrible life decisions because I wasn't educated well about reality as many people these days are not. State run schools which are a socialist program are not there to educate and make u a responsible adult ready to make wise decisions about your future which minimize your suffering in adulthood and maximize your chances of a good life outcome. I got carried away sorry lol!

 

[Smilla]

Only part that is wrong is that this is late stage socialism. But we are taught free market capitalism is what hurts people. Free market and no state intervention is the most moral system because it aligns with human nature. Governments always grow and take personal responsibility away from people, which is why it fails. I made terrible life decisions because I wasn't educated well about reality as many people these days are not. State run schools which are a socialist program are not there to educate and make u a responsible adult ready to make wise decisions about your future which minimize your suffering in adulthood and maximize your chances of a good life outcome. I got carried away sorry lol!

Ayn Rand fan?

Former libertarian here but I grew out of that in my early 20s.

 

[worldexploder]

CTB or attempting to costs the government 69 billion dollars a year. Could you imagine how much the government would save is we had the right to die?

 

[Lra888]

Only part that is wrong is that this is late stage socialism. But we are taught free market capitalism is what hurts people. Free market and no state intervention is the most moral system because it aligns with human nature. Governments always grow and take personal responsibility away from people, which is why it fails. I made terrible life decisions because I wasn't educated well about reality as many people these days are not. State run schools which are a socialist program are not there to educate and make u a responsible adult ready to make wise decisions about your future which minimize your suffering in adulthood and maximize your chances of a good life outcome. I got carried away sorry lol!

I relate to this very much. Public schools in most cases are not decent environments to prepare young people to make good choices for the future. There is so much pressure to make a career decision at 15-16, choose college (if possible) and prepare for a life of debt.

 

[worldexploder]

Ayn Rand fan?

Former libertarian here but I grew out of that in my early 20s.

Objectivism = assholes should be praised and the "losers" should be hazed.

 

[Final Escape]

Yes love Rand, and I'll always be someone who values freedom because the alternative is tyranny, mass death, starvation, misery.

 

[Smilla]

Objectivism = assholes should be praised and the "losers" should be hazed.

Good summary of Rand.