Story The story of Viktor Staudt and how it is a beautiful illustration that many of us are fighting an endless battle

[Return2Dust]

Agreed. Wish the body would be more responsive to realities. The worst thing anyone could say to me would be "I wish you a long life".

I'm about to have a Birthday and I hate it every year. Someone told me to celebrate another year of being alive...oh yeah, because that's what I really wanted! I found myself being pissed off at her and jealous at the same time.

 

[ManWithNoName]

huh who? yr the news story i read was about a hanging- i wasnt talking about the guy in the wheelchair from the vid- on the Wiki page here- you will find the story and one other case also-that is why it is crucial if this is yr method to not be found early.

I misunderstood, my bad—but yes I think being discovered too soon, and a bad rope that breaks or, to a lesser extent, a knot that comes loose.

But I think the duration time of hanging to full death will vary depending on the individual.

 

[Daniela]

severe male BPD
Submitted by Viktor Staudt on June 28, 2014 - 11:18am

Dear all,
my name is Viktor Staudt. Yes, that's my real name and I have no intention to hide my identity, because I wrote a book (Netherlands, 2012) about how BPD led to a suicide attempt that caused me the loss of both of my legs.
Symptoms I suffer from:
- extreme fear of abandonment
- unstable, intense interpersonal relationships
- low selfesteem
- impulsive & reckless behaviour
- suicidal tendencies
- chronic feelings of emptiness/boredom
- severe depression
Because the pressure of the depression got lifted by the use of antidepressants, I manage to keep the other symptoms under control.
For those interested to find out more about my story, I held a couple of interviews that are available on Youtube. There is a TEDxTalk here:
The reason I decided to come out about BPD: especially for men it's sometimes difficult to acknowlegde suffering from any mental problem. By sharing my story I hope to make it just a bit more easy for anyone who recognizes these kind of problems, to get up and go out and look for help.
Thank you.

Male Borderline Personality Disorder: Being "Second-Best"

Is Borderline Personality Disorder in men a "rare phenomenon"?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[MeltingHeart]

severe male BPD
Submitted by Viktor Staudt on June 28, 2014 - 11:18am

Dear all,
my name is Viktor Staudt. Yes, that's my real name and I have no intention to hide my identity, because I wrote a book (Netherlands, 2012) about how BPD led to a suicide attempt that caused me the loss of both of my legs.
Symptoms I suffer from:
- extreme fear of abandonment
- unstable, intense interpersonal relationships
- low selfesteem
- impulsive & reckless behaviour
- suicidal tendencies
- chronic feelings of emptiness/boredom
- severe depression
Because the pressure of the depression got lifted by the use of antidepressants, I manage to keep the other symptoms under control.
For those interested to find out more about my story, I held a couple of interviews that are available on Youtube. There is a TEDxTalk here:
The reason I decided to come out about BPD: especially for men it's sometimes difficult to acknowlegde suffering from any mental problem. By sharing my story I hope to make it just a bit more easy for anyone who recognizes these kind of problems, to get up and go out and look for help.
Thank you.

Male Borderline Personality Disorder: Being "Second-Best"

Is Borderline Personality Disorder in men a "rare phenomenon"?

www.psychologytoday.com

think this is the same video from the start of this thread?...

Pretty much.

oh where i live then.

 

[woxihuanni]

Yeah, well. The kindest thing you can do for yourself is to be honest. And not fucking patronise people who wish to exit.

 

[Daniela]

think this is the same video from the start of this thread?...

Yes he posted it in the comment section on a Psychology Today's article on BPD in men.

 

[TAW122]

Thanks for sharing this story and yes, I can see that some of us may end up with suicide, with a matter of when and where instead of if. For me, personally, I am only sticking around until I can't take it anymore (either something major pushes me well over the edge and right timing), then I would go forward and end my shitty existence. For the time being, I'm just coping and enjoying what little joy and happiness I have as of now. Nevertheless, I am always living under the notion that I can (and will) suicide on the drop of a dime should the circumstances push me over.

 

[Final Escape]

I feel like I try to keep going but the reality is I'm way too damaged and it's way too late to have a decent life. In many ways I cannot wait to be dead, my life is so fucked beyond repair.

 

[CaptainT]

I always found the TED talks (even when I was well) to be far too Oprah, far too Tony Robbins, sugar coating the reality of existence. Give me Bukowski or Hemingway, or anything that acknowledges that life is both beautiful but fucking hard and harsh.

 

[CrushedHopes]

The story of Viktor Staudt is nothing but utter hypocrisy - dissuading people to CTB, only to CTB himself. I mean, sure, people change, and so do their predicaments, but wow.

I've tried to CTB three years ago, and once I got over my depression following treatment with no complications, I vowed to become stronger and I would not try to kill myself again. Now, 3 years later, I've done my research on SS, and I am ready to exit. Heh. Seems like I am a hypocrite too.

I do agree with the OP though, particularly with this:
"Most of us don't want to end our lives... we would like to live a better one."

Had I been smarter, and not so fucking stupid, I wouldn't make such grave mistakes that would eventually lead me to my own demise. I wouldn't need to choose death. I'm such an embarrassment - you'd think someone that watches so much anime would have learnt from the morals shown in them by now - villains that do all sorts of bad things *always* get exposed in the end. The fact that I thought that I'd be an exception to that rule is outright laughable.

 

[veren4h92l]

Is it mentioned somewhere how Mr. Staudt did it in the end [not referring to the propagandized former attempt]?

Guess the humble man had been coerced by circumstances to take part of that show.
Inhumane.
Sure he wouldn't heal from that.
I feel very bad for whoever treated his person in such disgusting ways even before his "attempt" and then cash in on him after..

R.i.p.

 

[Harlar91]

thats interesting- i havent watched the video yet -but i will- this would suggest that if you continued to have some stresses or woes over & above money- you would thrive in some ways -as it is a distraction from that worry and also gives you some sense of drive or purpose in other areas-in some ways ur focal point of thinking is altered- I guess this can work in the short term but maybe not sustainable in the long term to need a new difficulty to distract from an existing one- if that makes any sense... I should probs watch that clip now anyway...

That's how I've been feeling for a while now. I find an objective, accomplish it, then need to find a new one, otherwise I lose my sense of purpose and fall into despair.
Thankfully for myself, between the medications and being occupied by my current project, life is more tolerable. But like you said, this is only a short term solution. I'm only prolonging the inevitable.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

The pain was excruciating, feels like I broke my clavicle and collar bones.

You are not the only one.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I've got the feeling that this battle will never stop. " A permanent solution to a temporary problem " but life is my problem.
I can't imagine how must have felt all the people who read his books or attended his conferences.

 

[Crumbledank]

Viktor Staudt was a Dutch guy who suffered from severe mental health issues. In 1999 he tried to commit suicide by jumping in front of a train, but he survived and lost his legs.

Apparently this moment was a turnaround for Viktor. He went on to write books, do TV shows and TED talks about that day and how it was a mistake. As Viktor said many times: 'suicide is an attempt to end your problems, but you are ending your life'. Many people would listen to that and get motivated to keep on going because you know what..he might be right? Most of us don't want to end our lifes..we would like to live a better one. Is that realistic though? (I'll get back to that later)

Not only would Viktor try to help other people..he proclaimed that things got better for him. He was finally able to distinguish his life from his problems he said.
In his book 'how I conquered my anxiety & depression' he would call his earlier attempt a mistake. One that he made because he wasn't being rational.





On the 12th of September 2019 Viktor committed suicide.

Let that one sink in. A man who dedicated a huge portion of his life to try and convince other people that suicide is merely a temporary solution killed himself 20 years later because he finally realized it was permanent.

I guess the moral of the story and the reason I am sharing this here is that this is a perfect example of what we all already know deep down inside. You see despite all his nice quotes and motivational speeches Viktor made one mistake. He distinguished 'life' and 'problems'.
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I guess this can come accross as a very pro-suicide post. It's not. I don't want to push anyone deeper than they already are. For those though that are out there (and I know for a fact there are many) who are in full survival mode in the hope things will start changing. They won't. You and me will end up like Viktor.


(I don't necessarily have a question or a topic to discuss. It's just something that really kicked in over the last few weeks. We really are stuck into a never ending cycle)

To be fair, there's not necessarily any contradiction here - maybe he wasn't being rational on the first attempt, and then wasn't being rational on the second.